Bison Burger Fail

[omega50]

Hunting buddy dropped off some Bison Burgers he had made at a popular Calgary Butcher Shop.

Asked me to sample them because they seemed to have a strange texture.

I only had to look at one raw patty to see the issue.

Very high TVP component. Burger actually increased in size as I cooked it.

Buyer Beware

Wonder where the rest of his bison went?

[trophybook]

Wow what butcher shop?

[omega50]

Prefer not to say. He and I will be taking some in to see what they have to say.

[play.soccer]

What is tvp?

[Gary K]

Originally Posted by play.soccer

What is tvp?

i think textured vegetable protein?

[Nova316]

That what I figured what TVP means, probably just a filler substance.

[blgoodbrand1]

Greasy. Or maybe not.....


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[270person]

Originally Posted by play.soccer

What is tvp?

Tiny varmint parts.

[Badgerbadger]

Originally Posted by 270person

Tiny varmint parts.

Nah! Those shrink when cooked! (at least, when I stir fry gopher drumlettes....)

[operator john]

Tofu!!

[YYC338]

Originally Posted by omega50

Prefer not to say. He and I will be taking some in to see what they have to say.

Well... if you prefer not to say, it's a little tough for the buyer to beware now isn't it?

[270person]

Originally Posted by Badgerbadger

Nah! Those shrink when cooked! (at least, when I stir fry gopher drumlettes....)

Interesting. My vole backstraps always expand.

[2 Tollers]

Originally Posted by omega50

Asked me to sample them because they seemed to have a strange texture. I only had to look at one raw patty to see the issue. Very high TVP component.

Omega 50 is TVP used as a binder and if so what are the typical components? Reason for asking was a shop suggested I use a binder of dehydrated carrot for moose burgers. Answer was no.

[Bushmaster]

What is TVP....??

"Textured Vegetable Protein is a highly nutritious soy product. It is incredibly wealthy in complete protein and contains no fat, so it is an excellent alternative to meat. TVP® is made from defatted soy flour that has been cooked under pressure and then dried. TVP® is naturally gluten-free and is handled and packaged in our ..."

[Albertadiver]

Originally Posted by Bushmaster

What is TVP....??

"Textured Vegetable Protein is a highly nutritious soy product. It is incredibly wealthy in complete protein and contains no fat, so it is an excellent alternative to meat. TVP® is made from defatted soy flour that has been cooked under pressure and then dried. TVP® is naturally gluten-free and is handled and packaged in our ..."

Sounds like some new millennial fad diet.

[creeky]

Originally Posted by Albertadiver

Sounds like some new millennial fad diet.

sounds like it Diver, tho it's been around since the sixties


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[wildbill]

Any updates?

[omega50]

Originally Posted by 2 Tollers

Omega 50 is TVP used as a binder and if so what are the typical components? Reason for asking was a shop suggested I use a binder of dehydrated carrot for moose burgers. Answer was no.

I do not generally use binders. So I am not an expert in their use. Their use is profit driven and that is not my motivation when making meat products

But the principle of carrot binders .
is simple. They will absorb both bound water and added water preventing it from leaving the product as the protein coagulates and shrinks-normally losing and releasing moisture.

Same things bread binders do , but dried carrot can hold much much more water.Over 25x it's weight.

Adds fiber to your sausage so you poop better.

TVP is a normally a MEAT REPLACER. Mimics meat at a lower cost. Increases water holding abilities.
Perfectly legal but something I personally feel should be disclosed to someone having their game processed.

The amount of TVP in the burger I tried was staggering-It Exceeded the amount of Bison in the burger. My friend had no idea the game he brought in was going to be so vegetarian friendly.

It pays to seek clarity when dropping off your game for processing.
Ask questions.

[wildbill]

Originally Posted by omega50

I do not generally use binders. So I am not an expert in their use. Their use is profit driven and that is not my motivation when making meat products

But the principle of carrot binders .
is simple. They will absorb both bound water and added water preventing it from leaving the product as the protein coagulates and shrinks-normally losing and releasing moisture.

Same things bread binders do , but dried carrot can hold much much more water.Over 25x it's weight.

Adds fiber to your sausage so you poop better.

TVP is a normally a MEAT REPLACER. Mimics meat at a lower cost. Increases water holding abilities.
Perfectly legal but something I personally feel should be disclosed to someone having their game processed.

The amount of TVP in the burger I tried was staggering-It Exceeded the amount of Bison in the burger. My friend had no idea the game he brought in was going to be so vegetarian friendly.

It pays to seek clarity when dropping off your game for processing.
Ask questions.

Think I'd blow a gasket if they did that to me, just seems real shady, don't want no dang veggie burger, I rather die of a heart attack than be a vegan! Sorry, never heard of carrots in a burger, that's just disturbing!!!

[ganderblaster]

One more reason to do my own processing.....

[The Flint&Fly Guy]

Man that's weird, I can see it for retail to up the profit margin, but why addd it to someone else's meat??

[Big Grey Wolf]

To my knowledge Burger King uses lots of Soy bean waste product TVP in their burgers. Thats why they taste so bad compared to Wendys or A & W burgers. You can have Alberta beef or Soy bean waste product, Pick your poision, but meat processor should always clear this with hunter first.