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Right or wrong, suspicion has taken root and over the term of his presidency, it will continue to get air time...no different than Donald keeping the "birther" issue alive in the face of real evidence that it was bogus.
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The birth certificate they showed to the media has been proven bogus.
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01-16-2017, 10:35 AM
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The birth certificate they showed to the media has been proven bogus.
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Best you let Donald know.
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01-16-2017, 04:56 PM
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01-16-2017, 07:00 PM
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Hmmm. Donald said Barack was born in the US... or was that fake news?
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01-16-2017, 07:02 PM
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He's moved on.
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01-16-2017, 07:50 PM
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I love that theyre following some Trumped up reports out of Russia. Despite Russia claiming they have no information they can use against Trump.
Why dont they find out what hes going to replace Obamacare with? Now that would be a news story and should be the one theyre chasing.
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01-16-2017, 08:39 PM
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The birth certificate they showed to the media has been proven bogus.
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Funny how no one covered that. I hope Trump pursues this a little.
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01-16-2017, 08:58 PM
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Is "moving on" synonymous with "OK, I was spreading a falsehood and don't want to talk about any more"?
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01-16-2017, 09:48 PM
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Is "moving on" synonymous with "OK, I was spreading a falsehood and don't want to talk about any more"?
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No, he has a country to un**** after two terms of obamanation.
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01-17-2017, 09:36 AM
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No, he has a country to un**** after two terms of obamanation.
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Actually the US economy is doing very well. The same could not be said of it when Obama took over from Bush.
So far it's not looking like things will go that great under Mr Twitter 
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Actually the US economy is doing very well. The same could not be said of it when Obama took over from Bush.
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It should be said that in spite of Obama, the economy has picked up. His policies have most certainly not been conducive to a growing middle class, the backbone of economies.
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01-17-2017, 10:02 AM
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Any jo-blo can offer opinions but the proof is always in the pudding. US economy has strengthened under Obama, employment numbers are up. So if thngs continue to get better under Trump, should we accept that it occurred "in spite of him?"
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01-17-2017, 10:07 AM
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Is "moving on" synonymous with "OK, I was spreading a falsehood and don't want to talk about any more"?
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The nice thing about actually having a mind is that you can change it.
Go borrow one and see for yourself.
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Any jo-blo can offer opinions but the proof is always in the pudding. US economy has strengthened under Obama, employment numbers are up. So if thngs continue to get better under Trump, should we accept that it occurred "in spite of him?"
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Looking at employment numbers alone is not proof. Do you know how many of these are part-time, and they used to be full-time?
There is no pretty way to put it, but Bush's wars employed a lot of people. Obama largely scaled back on them, but continued with government spending regardless of the consequences. We saw layoffs by the 100,000s. Not all of those man-hours have been given back.
BTW, I would hold Bush just as accountable as Obama. Both were out to destroy the American dream, one way or the other.
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Hmmm. Donald said Barack was born in the US... or was that fake news?
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Hey, Barack Obama sounds more intelligent than Barry Soetoro. Betting he wouldn't have won under that name. 
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There is nothing in the world that the Russians could have on Trump that would have any blackmail value. Why? because there is nothing that Trump can do or say that actually shocks anyone anymore. He could admit to having **** parties with underage Russian midgets. His opponents can't be any more outraged than they already are, and his supporters would simply shrug or say it's a liberal media plot.
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01-17-2017, 02:09 PM
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There is nothing in the world that the Russians could have on Trump that would have any blackmail value. Why? because there is nothing that Trump can do or say that actually shocks anyone anymore. He could admit to having **** parties with underage Russian midgets. His opponents can't be any more outraged than they already are, and his supporters would simply shrug or say it's a liberal media plot.
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This is true.
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01-17-2017, 02:22 PM
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The current intensity will last throughput Trumps presidency. Republicans did not accept the defeat of 2008. The Dems will not accept the defeat of 2016. The only question now is if Trump can politically survive beyond 4 years. Whichever way it goes, I predict the presdential contest in four years will not be a nail biter.
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I predict the presdential contest in four years will not be a nail biter.
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I agree 100%
It will be the end of the democRAT party.
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I would be more concerned with what Obama is doing right now. He has aggravated Russia, China and Israel, and still has time to cause more damage.
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I would be more concerned with what Obama is doing right now. He has aggravated Russia, China and Israel, and still has time to cause more damage.
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Aggravating China? LOL That is what Trump has promised to do.
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01-17-2017, 04:21 PM
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Aggravating China? LOL That is what Trump has promised to do.
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Well Obama has already started. He seems to want to stir up as much trouble as he can on the way out.
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Well Obama has already started. He seems to want to stir up as much trouble as he can on the way out.
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Funny.
China wants control over most of the South China Sea and has built military bases on near artificial islands to do who knows what. The US has just run a few military exercises in response. Watch for Trump to really stir things up. (Maybe for the better - or worse)
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Recent Developments Surrounding the South China Sea | Military.com
In comments that could raise the stakes in the South China Sea, Donald Trump's choice for secretary of state said the U.S. should stop Beijing from constructing artificial islands and deny it access to them.
"We're going to have to send China a clear signal that first, the island-building stops, and second, your access to those islands also is not going to be allowed," former Exxon Mobil CEO Rex Tillerson said during his Senate confirmation hearing. He compared China's island-building in the disputed waters to Russia's annexation of Crimea.
The outgoing U.S. administration has challenged China by sending warships close to man-made islands on four occasions, but the talk of denying access to those features could significantly raise the risk of military confrontation. It wasn't clear if Tillerson was referring to the islands with a Chinese military presence already established or those like Scarborough Shoal, which Beijing wrested from the Philippines in 2012 but hasn't built on yet.
Blocking China's access to the islands "could spark armed conflict," said Mark Fitzpatrick, at the International Institute for Strategic Studies. "I can't help but think that he did not mean it this way."
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2...china-sea.html
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Well Obama has already started. He seems to want to stir up as much trouble as he can on the way out.
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Yeah, the Yanks seem a little sensitive about Russia hacking their political parties and trying to interfere with the election. No idea why.  LOL
Funny. When Trump said the fix was in, we all thought he was talking about the Dems hijacking the political process. Silly us.
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Well Obama has already started. He seems to want to stir up as much trouble as he can on the way out.
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Probably everything that happens under Trumps watch will be Obama's doing. Donald said he could overcome all that. Remember, it is always somebody else's fault!
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Most bullies can't take their own treatment. (The US has interfered in many countries' affairs. However this is extremely awkward because the winner of the election may just be a puppet, but what do you do? You can't say that their hacking did the trick... )
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01-17-2017, 04:57 PM
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Most bullies can't take their own treatment. (The US has interfered in many countries affairs. This is extremely awkward because the winner of the election may just be a puppet, but what do you do. You can't say that their hacking did the trick...)
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Oh no doubt the US does it too. But that doesn't mean you take it laying down.
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Putin things in perspective
Trumps' phone will not be hacked next... 
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The birth certificate they showed to the media has been proven bogus.
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uh yeahhhhhhhh riiiiight. and where did you get that? LOL Pretty sure that if there was proof the President was not an American and ineligible to hold office, the Republicans would have had it before the Supreme Court pronto. So what legal action was taken? When were the articles of impeachment drawn up? 
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