Go Back   Alberta Outdoorsmen Forum > Main Category > Guns & Ammo Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #31  
Old 01-06-2017, 10:57 AM
fish_e_o fish_e_o is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: rollyview
Posts: 7,860
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by chuck View Post
Put tape over your muzzle.

If it bothers you that much you maybe should find a different hobby. And I'm still wondering what makes you think a Kimber will take your head off and a Remington won't.
what about condensation?

anyway it's a stronger action. that's all that needs to be said.
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 01-06-2017, 11:22 AM
Pathfinder76 Pathfinder76 is offline
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 15,847
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fish_e_o View Post
what about condensation?

anyway it's a stronger action. that's all that needs to be said.
The tape isn't permanent.

How do you know this?

Look at Forbes stuff then. When you start slabbing actions because you are afraid of strength I have to wonder what the thought process is.
__________________
“I love it when clients bring Berger bullets. It means I get to kill the bear.”

-Billy Molls
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 01-06-2017, 11:27 AM
fish_e_o fish_e_o is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: rollyview
Posts: 7,860
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by chuck View Post
The tape isn't permanent.

How do you know this?

Look at Forbes stuff then. When you start slabbing actions because you are afraid of strength I have to wonder what the thought process is.
no i said i'm not willing to sacrifice strength for extraction.

i'm not worried about strength, i'm less worried about extraction.

you don't understand that i have a list of things that are important to me balance, accuracy, weight, strength, durability, weatherproof, extraction, feeding, looks, etc.

i weigh strength higher than extraction that is all
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 01-06-2017, 11:31 AM
Pathfinder76 Pathfinder76 is offline
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 15,847
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fish_e_o View Post
no i said i'm not willing to sacrifice strength for extraction.

i'm not worried about strength, i'm less worried about extraction.

you don't understand that i have a list of things that are important to me balance, accuracy, weight, strength, durability, weatherproof, extraction, feeding, looks, etc.

i weigh strength higher than extraction that is all
But I'm still wondering why you think a Remington is stronger? A test you have done? Perception? You have blown up a few actions?

Where is your frame of reference coming from?

Look at Forbes. Nosler, has said they are one of, if not the strongest actions they have used in their test facilities.
__________________
“I love it when clients bring Berger bullets. It means I get to kill the bear.”

-Billy Molls
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 01-06-2017, 11:38 AM
Scottmisfits Scottmisfits is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Calgary
Posts: 2,109
Default

He wanted a Remington Model 7 for his own reasons. He got a Model 7 because that's what he wanted. Period. Case closed, end of story, no need to argue with him about HIS decision to get what HE wanted. It's another Chevy/Ford/Dodge debate. There will never be a winner, it's personal preference.
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 01-06-2017, 11:40 AM
fish_e_o fish_e_o is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: rollyview
Posts: 7,860
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scottmisfits View Post
He wanted a Remington Model 7 for his own reasons. He got a Model 7 because that's what he wanted. Period. Case closed, end of story, no need to argue with him about HIS decision to get what HE wanted. It's another Chevy/Ford/Dodge debate. There will never be a winner, it's personal preference.
exactly i own all sorts of guns and build all sorts. this one is this way for my reasons and my reasons only.
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 01-06-2017, 11:44 AM
Pathfinder76 Pathfinder76 is offline
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 15,847
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scottmisfits View Post
He wanted a Remington Model 7 for his own reasons. He got a Model 7 because that's what he wanted. Period. Case closed, end of story, no need to argue with him about HIS decision to get what HE wanted. It's another Chevy/Ford/Dodge debate. There will never be a winner, it's personal preference.
He is asking on a public forum about slabbing the action to reduce weight and improve balance. In my experience he is better off going with a lighter action to begin with.

Once again, this is a public forum and he is asking.

But like so many here, they have no interest in any response that does not support their own views. They don't want opinions they want validation.
__________________
“I love it when clients bring Berger bullets. It means I get to kill the bear.”

-Billy Molls
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 01-06-2017, 11:48 AM
fish_e_o fish_e_o is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: rollyview
Posts: 7,860
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by chuck View Post
He is asking on a public forum about slabbing the action to reduce weight and improve balance. In my experience he is better off going with a lighter action to begin with.

Once again, this is a public forum and he is asking.

But like so many here, they have no interest in any response that does not support their own views. They don't want opinions they want validation.
not asking just mentioning. balance is a personal issue about how you hold a rifle if it's not right i'll change it. no one else will be able to tell you how well a rifle balances for you.

i could go with a peirce titanium action but if the balance is wrong i'm not further ahead
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 01-06-2017, 12:29 PM
gtr gtr is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Manitoba
Posts: 1,529
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by chuck View Post



But like so many here, they have no interest in any response that does not support their own views. They don't want opinions they want validation.
That is the kettle calling the pot black right there.
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 01-06-2017, 01:01 PM
Pathfinder76 Pathfinder76 is offline
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 15,847
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gtr View Post
That is the kettle calling the pot black right there.
Trolling twice on the same thread. Typical.....
__________________
“I love it when clients bring Berger bullets. It means I get to kill the bear.”

-Billy Molls
Reply With Quote
  #41  
Old 01-06-2017, 01:04 PM
fish_e_o fish_e_o is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: rollyview
Posts: 7,860
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by chuck View Post
Trolling twice on the same thread. Typical.....
because the feel resembles a model 70? come on... not everyone is trolling you.

that was an opinion and i agree with it. it's somewhat like a featherweight only lighter, more compact and stronger.
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 01-06-2017, 01:09 PM
Pathfinder76 Pathfinder76 is offline
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 15,847
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fish_e_o View Post
because the feel resembles a model 70? come on... not everyone is trolling you.

that was an opinion and i agree with it. it's somewhat like a featherweight only lighter, more compact and stronger.
The feel of what?
__________________
“I love it when clients bring Berger bullets. It means I get to kill the bear.”

-Billy Molls
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 01-06-2017, 01:30 PM
fish_e_o fish_e_o is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: rollyview
Posts: 7,860
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by chuck View Post
The feel of what?
are you trolling right now? i shouldn't need to explain your actions to you. everytime he posts you accuse him of trolling it's like you follow him around
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 01-06-2017, 01:31 PM
Pathfinder76 Pathfinder76 is offline
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 15,847
Default

This is why, IMO, slabbing an action is starting to go down a path that would be better directed somewhere else.

__________________
“I love it when clients bring Berger bullets. It means I get to kill the bear.”

-Billy Molls
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 01-06-2017, 01:32 PM
Pathfinder76 Pathfinder76 is offline
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 15,847
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fish_e_o View Post
are you trolling right now? i shouldn't need to explain your actions to you. everytime he posts you accuse him of trolling it's like you follow him around
I have no idea what you are talking about! If you mean feel between the model 70 and Kimber looking at the photo I posted will tell you immediately that for me the "feel" is nothing the same.
__________________
“I love it when clients bring Berger bullets. It means I get to kill the bear.”

-Billy Molls
Reply With Quote
  #46  
Old 01-06-2017, 01:40 PM
fish_e_o fish_e_o is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: rollyview
Posts: 7,860
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by chuck View Post
I have no idea what you are talking about! If you mean feel between the model 70 and Kimber looking at the photo I posted will tell you immediately that for me the "feel" is nothing the same.
what can you feel in a picture. come on now you have no idea what he was talking about and you jumped down his throat
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old 01-06-2017, 01:41 PM
Pathfinder76 Pathfinder76 is offline
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 15,847
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fish_e_o View Post
what can you feel in a picture. come on now you have no idea what he was talking about and you jumped down his throat
I have no idea what YOU are talking about. What do YOU mean by "feel"?
__________________
“I love it when clients bring Berger bullets. It means I get to kill the bear.”

-Billy Molls
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 01-06-2017, 01:46 PM
fish_e_o fish_e_o is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: rollyview
Posts: 7,860
Default

feel is when you are actually holding a rifle he could have meant build quality, balance, weight, how it points, how it shoulders, the drop in the stock, how it feeds, the temperature for all i know

either way his opinion isn't wrong and i would say it feels a lot like a featherweight.
Reply With Quote
  #49  
Old 01-06-2017, 02:04 PM
Bergerboy's Avatar
Bergerboy Bergerboy is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: In your personal space.
Posts: 4,787
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fish_e_o View Post
feel is when you are actually holding a rifle he could have meant build quality, balance, weight, how it points, how it shoulders, the drop in the stock, how it feeds, the temperature for all i know

either way his opinion isn't wrong and i would say it feels a lot like a featherweight.
Why do you care about build quality of your model 7. You bought a rifle for $800 and are removing $500 worth of stuff. I doubt your got much "build quality" for your $300 action and bottom metal.
__________________
When in doubt, use full throttle. It may not improve the situation, but it will end the suspense.
Reply With Quote
  #50  
Old 01-06-2017, 03:11 PM
fish_e_o fish_e_o is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: rollyview
Posts: 7,860
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bergerboy View Post
I doubt your got much "build quality" for your $300 action and bottom metal.
i was actually debating if i should use the bottom metal or not
Reply With Quote
  #51  
Old 01-06-2017, 04:39 PM
Pathfinder76 Pathfinder76 is offline
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 15,847
Default

Easy peasy lemon squeezy and aside from the pillars no aluminum. And it balances on the from guard screw.

__________________
“I love it when clients bring Berger bullets. It means I get to kill the bear.”

-Billy Molls
Reply With Quote
  #52  
Old 01-06-2017, 05:18 PM
Rio56's Avatar
Rio56 Rio56 is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 1,795
Default

[QUOTE=chuck;3435894]Easy peasy lemon squeezy and aside from the pillars no aluminum. And it balances on the from guard screw.

LOL...now that's a gooder .... now back to the show , you guys carry on
Reply With Quote
  #53  
Old 01-06-2017, 05:22 PM
double gun double gun is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Alberta
Posts: 4,279
Default

I will take an aluminum floorplate over a blind mag all day.
Reply With Quote
  #54  
Old 01-06-2017, 05:24 PM
double gun double gun is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Alberta
Posts: 4,279
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fish_e_o View Post
i was actually debating if i should use the bottom metal or not
Absolutely use it. You won't get an ounce difference in weight going from blind mag to the factory bottom metal.
Reply With Quote
  #55  
Old 01-06-2017, 05:43 PM
huntingfamily huntingfamily is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 322
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by double gun View Post
I will take an aluminum floorplate over a blind mag all day.
Agreed 100%
Reply With Quote
  #56  
Old 01-06-2017, 07:21 PM
David Henry David Henry is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 818
Default

That all depends on how, where and what you hunt. I charge my blind box mag when we head down the trail into sheep country and it may stay that way for 10 days. Agreed its not so practical if your in and out of the truck in November during whitetail season, and that's where a detachable magazine shines like such offered by Tikka-Savage etc. D.H.
Reply With Quote
  #57  
Old 01-06-2017, 07:30 PM
double gun double gun is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Alberta
Posts: 4,279
Default

To each their own, but I would take a floorplate over a blind mag no matter what, where or how I was hunting.
Reply With Quote
  #58  
Old 01-06-2017, 09:15 PM
buckbrushoutdoors's Avatar
buckbrushoutdoors buckbrushoutdoors is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Fort Saskatchewan
Posts: 3,698
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by double gun View Post
I will take an aluminum floorplate over a blind mag all day.
That's why I will never own a montana
Reply With Quote
  #59  
Old 01-06-2017, 09:24 PM
silver lab's Avatar
silver lab silver lab is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Stuck between wmu 110, 302 & 305
Posts: 1,023
Default

After trying a blind mag and the detachable mag, i will never own them again.
Reply With Quote
  #60  
Old 01-07-2017, 09:58 AM
sns2's Avatar
sns2 sns2 is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: My House
Posts: 13,464
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by buckbrushoutdoors View Post
That's why I will never own a montana
I'm with you there. After having a handful over the years I am done with them. I'm in and out of the truck too much.

Sent from my LG-H812 using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:25 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.