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Was on a lake duck hunting this year that I didn't even think could support fish. Was in the weeds and they were boiling all around me. Not as big as the ones you were catching, only about 2-3 inches in length.
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11-19-2016, 08:55 PM
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i think they are here to stay. when i first heard about them i was so interested in them. one of my buddies spent some time with his buddies and figured them out fairly quick and i followed suit.
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i kept the fish from the first trip and second trip to see what they are like for table fare, very tasty fish but boney as hell is an understatement. after trying to pick the tiny bones out i gave up and tossed them in the trash. the bigger ones in the 10" + are better as bones are easier to pick out. i want to continue fishing for them as they are fun and hit all day long and keeps you very busy but i don't want to keep anymore for table fare. until i can figure out a way to get rid of them (not waste them like tossing them in the bush or trash) i stopped fishing for them.
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11-19-2016, 09:01 PM
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Lots and all over
These things are everywhere now in rivers, reservoirs, creeks and lakes all over central and southern province. I have seen and talked o many people that are out there targeting them and catching them by the bucket full. Many eastern European and people from Europe and Asia target these and is a great thing. Maybe take some pressure off other fish for keepers.
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11-19-2016, 09:15 PM
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Every medium to large sized trout in Blood Indian has them in their stomachs. There are signs around the lake warning fisherman of the carp. I haven't seen one alive, but have counted many half digested ones.
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11-19-2016, 10:02 PM
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really? i am very surprised that the trout can even eat them with the one barb on the dorsal fin. i've been spiked a few times handling them and didn't know they have them just like a catfish.
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11-19-2016, 11:02 PM
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really? i am very surprised that the trout can even eat them with the one barb on the dorsal fin. i've been spiked a few times handling them and didn't know they have them just like a catfish.
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http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showthread.php?t=239703
This was from a couple years ago, but it wasn't any different last year. I'll update again in a few weeks (hopefully).
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11-20-2016, 07:41 AM
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They're big enough that they're being caught on worms in Blood Indian. Pulled a large one out of the RDR this summer.
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11-20-2016, 08:41 AM
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yeah i hear ya my buddy pulled a 14" out of the same river and also we hit a small lake and pulled average 10-14" out almost every cast.
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11-20-2016, 09:47 AM
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i want to continue fishing for them as they are fun and hit all day long and keeps you very busy but i don't want to keep anymore for table fare. until i can figure out a way to get rid of them (not waste them like tossing them in the bush or trash) i stopped fishing for them.[/QUOTE]
If you have a garden or know someone who does, bury the fish 6 - 8 inches down and they act like fertilizer. Early natives used to do this for their corn that they grew. Fish fertilizer is some of the best, touch smelly until in the ground.
Good place for all those carp.
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11-20-2016, 10:39 AM
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now i wish i had a garden lol. a bunch of us wondered if places like the birds of prey type establishments would accept them for feed for the birds? the only thing is if they need to be decontaminated in case of biological infections/diseases and such.
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11-20-2016, 12:52 PM
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What are the closest water-bodies to Edmonton where the carp can be found?
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11-20-2016, 01:01 PM
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i kept the fish from the first trip and second trip to see what they are like for table fare, very tasty fish but boney as hell is an understatement. after trying to pick the tiny bones out i gave up and tossed them in the trash. the bigger ones in the 10" + are better as bones are easier to pick out. i want to continue fishing for them as they are fun and hit all day long and keeps you very busy but i don't want to keep anymore for table fare. until i can figure out a way to get rid of them (not waste them like tossing them in the bush or trash) i stopped fishing for them.
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Shouldn't be too hard to find some asian friends that will take them off your hands. Put a free listing on kijiji and I bet you would have a ton of interest lol.
Alternatively you could try canning them which should soften the bones to an edible state.
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11-20-2016, 01:37 PM
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Has anyone tried or considered smoking them? If they have any oil in them they should smoke up as well as many other fish both fresh and salt water fish. I have wondered the same thing about the small Perch found in small lakes ?
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11-20-2016, 02:20 PM
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Has anyone tried or considered smoking them? If they have any oil in them they should smoke up as well as many other fish both fresh and salt water fish. I have wondered the same thing about the small Perch found in small lakes ?
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Others have said they fry up good but that bones are the issue. Smoking would probably turn out fine but does nothing to solve the bone issue.
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11-20-2016, 02:33 PM
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Others have said they fry up good but that bones are the issue. Smoking would probably turn out fine but does nothing to solve the bone issue.
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maybe pickling them is the best option to dissolve the bones
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11-20-2016, 02:37 PM
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Every time I see one of those !
I see big pike .....big big pike !
Fillet them , bake them , pull as many bones as you can out of the
Cooked filet . Mix with mashed potatoes , garlic , onions , any herb you like
Then put them thru the grinder . Mix in fine bread crumbs , make patties
Fry , delicious .....works on white fish too.
Or the Asian way .....Hot wok ......scale .....in wok .....pull apart .
Cook whole enhances the flavour ....I had to agree ......
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11-20-2016, 03:08 PM
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And they can be canned/pickled like herring or any other fish, and the many bones are not a problem !
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11-20-2016, 03:10 PM
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i think they are here to stay. when i first heard about them i was so interested in them. one of my buddies spent some time with his buddies and figured them out fairly quick and i followed suit.
day 1
day 2
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third trip average size
i kept the fish from the first trip and second trip to see what they are like for table fare, very tasty fish but boney as hell is an understatement. after trying to pick the tiny bones out i gave up and tossed them in the trash. the bigger ones in the 10" + are better as bones are easier to pick out. i want to continue fishing for them as they are fun and hit all day long and keeps you very busy but i don't want to keep anymore for table fare. until i can figure out a way to get rid of them (not waste them like tossing them in the bush or trash) i stopped fishing for them. |
What were you using for bait?
I think the boney issue could be addressed if they were cleaned and scaled . Smoked and then canned. Whitefish come out great like this.
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11-20-2016, 03:30 PM
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we experimented with home made dough baits.
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11-20-2016, 03:39 PM
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Thanks I'm gonna try smoking and canning if I can catch some.
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11-20-2016, 05:01 PM
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they fillet really nice and all but i even thought about also running them through a meat grinder but was not sure if the small bones will turn out into even smaller pieces of bone. i wish i had a smoker to try them smoked. one of these days i would like to take one boil it or find some way to remove the meat to get a good look at the entire bone skeleton structure to see if i can do almost like a boneless pike fillet type of deal on them.
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they are definitely reproducing in the Rivers, saw walleye spitting out lots around 1 inch this fall
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11-20-2016, 05:31 PM
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There is a device called the Wunder Boner that might work well on these fish.
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11-20-2016, 06:00 PM
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the fish in the video looks very umm ...old and not fresh at all. after being in the freezer for a bit i noticed trout in particular have a tendency for the meat to separate from the bones so i can definitely see that thing working but not on fresh caught ones.
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Wok and pig lard.
Pig fat really compliments the flavor and will cook most of tiny bones except spine and tops of rib bones.
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11-21-2016, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by the local angler
i think they are here to stay. when i first heard about them i was so interested in them. one of my buddies spent some time with his buddies and figured them out fairly quick and i followed suit.
day 1
day 2
day 3
third trip average size
i kept the fish from the first trip and second trip to see what they are like for table fare, very tasty fish but boney as hell is an understatement. after trying to pick the tiny bones out i gave up and tossed them in the trash. the bigger ones in the 10" + are better as bones are easier to pick out. i want to continue fishing for them as they are fun and hit all day long and keeps you very busy but i don't want to keep anymore for table fare. until i can figure out a way to get rid of them (not waste them like tossing them in the bush or trash) i stopped fishing for them. |
It is great to see and hear that other people are starting to clean up on the little suckers. I imagine that the 14 inchers that I was catching would be a lot easier to debone than smaller ones.
The way that I look at it, is that everyone should be doing everything in their power to catch and kill all the prussian carp that they can catch. They should be here and need to die. Even if you just bash them on the head, make sure they are dead and then throw them on shore, you are being a literal hero to the future of fishing here in Alberta.
Don't stop fishing for them just because they are a lot of work to debone. Catch them, kill them, and secure a brighter future for the future fisherman that come along.
I will continue to catch them and kill them. I will throw them on shore (away from where people normally go, so it doesn't make a foul odor for other people) and create food for skunks, raccoons, coyotes, magpies, and more creatures while saving the native fish.
Go kill em everyone!
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Why not try making fish stock for chowder? You won't need to worry about the bones and it'll make a tasty soup! Just dress these suckers, throw in a large pot, and boil away with mirepoix, peppercorn, and bay leaf... 45-60 mins later, you have some wicked stock!
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It is great to see and hear that other people are starting to clean up on the little suckers. I imagine that the 14 inchers that I was catching would be a lot easier to debone than smaller ones.
The way that I look at it, is that everyone should be doing everything in their power to catch and kill all the prussian carp that they can catch. They should be here and need to die. Even if you just bash them on the head, make sure they are dead and then throw them on shore, you are being a literal hero to the future of fishing here in Alberta.
Don't stop fishing for them just because they are a lot of work to debone. Catch them, kill them, and secure a brighter future for the future fisherman that come along.
I will continue to catch them and kill them. I will throw them on shore (away from where people normally go, so it doesn't make a foul odor for other people) and create food for skunks, raccoons, coyotes, magpies, and more creatures while saving the native fish.
Go kill em everyone!
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1000x! Plus no secrets on carp spots lol
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