BJ Penn's Comeback Attempt

[1899b]

Well that was hard to watch last night. MMA and its fighters have advanced so much in the last two years. BJ Penn looked like someone from a local amateur promotion. Proves that if Rousey or even Aldo started today, they would never even get close to winning the belts they defended for so long....

[Kurt505]

Dang, I missed it.

In BJ's defense, he wasn't too competitive the last time I watched fight a few years back so I wasn't really expecting much.

[Mackinaw]

BJ had not won since 2010 that is basically the story.

Mack

[1899b]

Originally Posted by Mackinaw

BJ had not won since 2010 that is basically the story.

Mack

Yeah his ship has sailed.

[260 Rem]

Got to know when to quit. One of my favourites.

[Ricki Bobby]

Yeah I watched as BJ was not even in that fight. That Mexican has some lethal legs on him!

[wildbill]

As was painfully evident last night the sport is constantly evolving, the glory days of Harold Howard and Keith Hackney are gone. Diversity is the key, Penn looked obsolete in comparison to his adversary. Penn had his glory, now lets watch that Rodrigez tune that big mouth Mcgregor!

[1899b]

Originally Posted by wildbill

As was painfully evident last night the sport is constantly evolving, the glory days of Harold Howard and Keith Hackney are gone. Diversity is the key, Penn looked obsolete in comparison to his adversary. Penn had his glory, now lets watch that Rodrigez tune that big mouth Mcgregor!

Harold Howard and Keith Hackney?? I was talking about how the sport has evolved in the last 2 years. Not its inception. LMAO

[wildbill]

Originally Posted by 1899b

Harold Howard and Keith Hackney?? I was talking about how the sport has evolved in the last 2 years. Not its inception. LMAO

It's been a constant evolution, not just the last two years

[sjr]

I hope that JSP seen the light and walks away from the ring head held high and proud .
MMA has changed , the players have changed , no need to go into the octagon again .

[Attilathecanuk]

Originally Posted by sjr

I hope that JSP seen the light and walks away from the ring head held high and proud .
MMA has changed , the players have changed , no need to go into the octagon again .

Even GSP as great as he is, is obsolete now.

[Tactical Lever]

Originally Posted by 1899b

Well that was hard to watch last night. MMA and its fighters have advanced so much in the last two years. BJ Penn looked like someone from a local amateur promotion. Proves that if Rousey or even Aldo started today, they would never even get close to winning the belts they defended for so long....

I'm sure they would have did quite well. More a matter of their number getting found out, and them lacking the flexibility to deal with that. That, and a few losses/concussions changes the game. When everyone is at the top and running 100%, with lots of competition, lose a couple percent, and a tenth of a second puts you in second place.

[Off in the Bushes]

When he was on top the talent pool was knee deep so he stands out, that goes for Rhonda, Spider etc also, now that it is neck deep they don't seem so great. The Octagon is not something that you can return to after a break.
Even the champ Mcgregor now taking a break and allowing a interm belt well he's away, will lose when he returns.
The sport is just evolving too fast.

[roger]

wasn't ever a fan of Bj penn. especially his lack of personality,
mma evolves so fast that these 'fossils' shouldn't attempt anything other than accepting what they accomplished and how they did it, read a book (or have someone read it to you), write a book, do a inspiring series of lectures, sit in wheelchair and swing your cane at passersby, just let your past successes be just that.
the shelf life of those fighters is measured in minutes in the ring, not years in the gym.

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by wildbill

now lets watch that Rodrigez tune that big mouth Mcgregor!

I don't follow MMA much at all, but I'd like to see that Scot knocked right out.

[rem338win]

Originally Posted by Okotokian

I don't follow MMA much at all, but I'd like to see that Scot knocked right out.

Is that an odd slight because he's Irish?

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by rem338win

Is that an odd slight because he's Irish?

Frick, I can barely understand him. He could be from Poland for all anyone can tell. LOL I was momentarily confused.... most moments.

[Tactical Lever]

I think guys are underestimating how good he really was. He was the only fighter to hold both the welterweight and lightweight belts in the UFC, and I believe only one of 2 fighters that had belts in 2 weight classes. He's fought from 145 to 205, and lost by decision to Machida who was one of the top fighters.

He was a pretty decent grappler, good take down defense, and threw hammers. And let's not forget, that his career in the UFC was about 16 years long counting his retirement.

How long do you guys expect him to go? Not everyone is Randy Couture, but I believe he saved himself for his later years just because he started late.

[Ricki Bobby]

Yes he WAS a really good fighter, but like others before him, his time WAS over a long time ago! There's no need to make a fool out of yourself after that much time away from the sport.