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New rifles for Canadian rangers being delivered
The Canadian Rangers will soon get their new rifles to replace their existing Lee Enfields.
The .308 calibre C19 replaces the Lee-Enfield .303 rifle which the Canadian Rangers have used since 1947. The C19 is lighter, shorter and more precise, according to the Canadian Forces.
The new C19 rifles are an improved version of the FTC Tikka T3 developed by SAKO (Finland), and manufactured under license by Colt Canada. They are more robust, and operate more reliably at temperatures well below freezing, an essential feature to ensure the smooth operation of Canadian Rangers in the Arctic, according to the Canadian Forces. “The C19 has security features which will be easy to operate for both right-handed than left-handed shooters,” it added. “The C19 trigger guard is wider, which facilitates the effective use of the rifle with winter gloves.”
Colt will produce 6,820 of the new rifles. “The Canadian Ranger Rifle production deliveries from Colt Canada commenced in March 2018 and will continue until they are completed in late 2019,” Department of National Defence spokeswoman Jessica Lamirande told Defence Watch on Wednesday. “These rifles will start to reach the Rangers later this spring as the field implementation gets underway.”
the Rangers will be opening thier new gifts soon. Can you say Range time
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04-06-2018, 07:32 AM
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I cannot believe they've been using those old 303s all these years
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04-06-2018, 08:01 AM
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I cannot believe they've been using those old 303s all these years
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Agreed, that's a long time. I've always been intrigued by the many Enfield models through their years of service and beyond, reliability, simplicity and effectiveness. The"Clubs" sure had a good run that's for sure.
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04-06-2018, 08:11 AM
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Any word on the cost to build these.Probably top secret.
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04-06-2018, 08:37 AM
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Any word on the cost to build these.Probably top secret.
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The preliminary cost estimate for the replacement project is $28 million or $4,000 per rifle, he said. That cost includes everything from development and testing to additional equipment, including hard and soft cases for the weapons and a two-year supply — almost two million rounds — of ammunition.
They don't give a value for the rifle alone, nice looking unit
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunde...apon-1.3143122
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04-07-2018, 03:43 PM
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a two-year supply — almost two million rounds — of ammunition.
Thought the regular forces weren't allowed a fraction of that many.
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04-07-2018, 04:11 PM
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Essentially, just that it won’t say Colt Canada, or have the Ranger Logo on the stock.
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04-07-2018, 04:48 PM
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My buddy has one for sale on CGN , the civilian equivalent
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04-07-2018, 05:13 PM
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My buddy has one for sale on CGN , the civilian equivalent
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Whats he asking for it?
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04-07-2018, 05:17 PM
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My buddy has one for sale on CGN , the civilian equivalent
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Anyone know the differences off the top of their head between this and a T3X Arctic (aside from the colour and logo)?
Is it just me or did the admins clean up this thread?
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04-07-2018, 06:14 PM
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Anyone know the differences off the top of their head between this and a T3X Arctic (aside from the colour and logo)?
Is it just me or did the admins clean up this thread?
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That is the only difference no logo but the colour is the same on the one sono***un is selling on CGN
Oh, and no drag bag or pelican hard case!
Yes it got cleaned up big time !
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Whats he asking for it?
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$2,500.00 I think
Un fired still in the packing wrap
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04-07-2018, 11:11 PM
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Some pretty big number being thrown around here. Just curious how accountable the Rangers these are issued to are , if they get "Lost" ?
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04-08-2018, 07:31 AM
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I have hunted with a few of them in the artic ,should make a nice polar bear gun,
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04-08-2018, 08:12 AM
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I would like to know when the old replacement rifles do up for sale.
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04-08-2018, 08:45 AM
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I would like to know when the old replacement rifles do up for sale.
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More likely an IF. Apparently serving Rangers were going to be gifted them (although I have not heard that this will really happen)
I suspect the rest will be destroyed.
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04-08-2018, 09:28 AM
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I would like to know when the old replacement rifles do up for sale.
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It was passed into law that the Govt can no longer sell surplus firearms.
So that about does that.
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04-08-2018, 10:53 AM
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It was passed into law that the Govt can no longer sell surplus firearms.
So that about does that.
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Crap,that's too bad.
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04-08-2018, 11:17 AM
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Crap,that's too bad.
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I think it goes back to the late 80’s or early 90’s, when the C1A1’s and C2A1’s were removed from service.
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04-08-2018, 11:31 AM
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So what about their stockpile of .303 ammo? There's a shortage on the civilian market.
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04-08-2018, 02:56 PM
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So what about their stockpile of .303 ammo? There's a shortage on the civilian market.
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I doubt that will be sold too.
One illegal act with stuff sold as surplus will have the sharks circling so fast.(at least that was how it was explained why the legislation on the firearms)
Look at who’s at the helm, and I can guarantee they’d sooner just burn the stuff, at a considerable cost, too boot.
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Crap,that's too bad.
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I had the exact same thought, This might be a great chance for a shooter Enfield.
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12-20-2019, 06:05 PM
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Has anyone actually handled and fired an Arctic? I saw one in a shop and handled it briefly but have yet to talk to anyone who has fired it.
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Has anyone actually handled and fired an Arctic? I saw one in a shop and handled it briefly but have yet to talk to anyone who has fired it.
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I have heard mixed reviews (second hand info ) but actually spoke with a couple of Rangers the other day and they love the new rifle .
They haven’t Scoped them BTW, they both are shooting the irons on them
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Any idea what ammo they are issuing? Standard 147gr ball ammo or something better seeing as it is part time used for survival aka hunting?
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12-20-2019, 11:53 PM
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Any idea what ammo they are issuing? Standard 147gr ball ammo or something better seeing as it is part time used for survival aka hunting?
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From what I understand, both military FMJ ammo and commercial 180 graiin Nosler Accubond ammo.
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these look like a cross between a Sako A7 trigger/safety button bolt release, and a tikka smaller loading port, and a two lug bolt head. interesting mix.
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Just bought one, haven't had a chance to shoot it yet. They are not a standard T3x. Has 3 position safety like my Sako A7. The trigger is a 2 stage , very nice 2 stage that feels similar to my TRG 22. Its adjustable for pull weight only. The first stage is fixed. I can use my TRG mags in it as well. I really like the iron sights on it. They are adjustable front and rear. Front can adjust blade height , rear windage and 6 settings on the rotating drum.
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