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07-25-2019, 08:28 AM
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I hold the same opinion of the 7mm rem mag but let’s just compare it against old trustworthy.
165/168
Or 180/185 and here the 7mm gets an additional 2” of barrel.
Colour me unimpressed.
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07-25-2019, 09:01 AM
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I’m curious as to what powder you are using and what velocities you are getting?
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I am using 74grs of retumbo and running at 3040fps
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07-25-2019, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Coiloil37
I hold the same opinion of the 7mm rem mag but let’s just compare it against old trustworthy.
165/168
Or 180/185 and here the 7mm gets an additional 2” of barrel.
Colour me unimpressed.
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Now compare the velocities at 500 yards.
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07-25-2019, 09:53 AM
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I am using 74grs of retumbo and running at 3040fps
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Thanks. So far I’m striking out with Retumbo and H1000. I’ve got some 8133 I’m going to try.
Who’s reamer did you use?
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07-25-2019, 10:09 AM
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Thanks. So far I’m striking out with Retumbo and H1000. I’ve got some 8133 I’m going to try.
Who’s reamer did you use?
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Sorry I don’t know, it’s a model 70 that was made by Dennis Olson that I bought off of cgn about a year ago
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07-25-2019, 10:16 AM
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Ah, from Rick. :-)
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07-25-2019, 01:00 PM
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That’s an exceptionally nice rifle.
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07-25-2019, 02:12 PM
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Now compare the velocities at 500 yards.
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That’s nothing more then a straw man. Let’s stick with metrics that are relevant to more then a small fraction of one percent of shooters.
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07-25-2019, 03:06 PM
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I can push 150 gr bullets over 200 FPS faster from the RM. those numbers make a difference.
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07-25-2019, 03:15 PM
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That’s nothing more then a straw man. Let’s stick with metrics that are relevant to more then a small fraction of one percent of shooters.
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They are relevant to me, so that is what matters to me.
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07-25-2019, 06:51 PM
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They are relevant to me, so that is what matters to me.
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Well here’s the 168’s head to head. I chose the exact BC and velocities Nosler reported because we can all get “more velocity” then what’s reported “safe”.
I also know you can play with other bullets and skew it more in the 7mm’s favour but I’m still not enamoured by the assumed difference. At 500 yards 152 FPS and 3” of drop doesn’t really mean much to this cowboy. If it matters to you that’s great.
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07-27-2019, 01:26 PM
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7 mm mag
Anyone got a starting load for Barnes 140 gr that they like. Inherited my dads gun and bought bx Barnes
1 in 9.5 twist according to my measurement on bbl?
tks for help
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07-27-2019, 01:32 PM
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Anyone got a starting load for Barnes 140 gr that they like. Inherited my dads gun and bought bx Barnes
1 in 9.5 twist according to my measurement on bbl?
tks for help
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Remington Magnum?
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08-04-2019, 03:22 PM
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Unorthodox bullet choice
This thread made me think of a friend of mine whom I've hunted with for a few years. He has an unorthodox choice of hunting bullet for his 7mm Rem Mag. He uses a Sierra 168gr. Matchking. I know, I tried to tell him that Sierra doesn't recommend Matchkings for hunting, and why, but you'd need to hunt with my friend to understand his madness. First of all, Wes is what you'd call a perenially successful hunter. In his 50's now, Wes has hunted big game every year since he was old enough and has never failed to fill all his tags every year. He's always hunted with the same Savage 111 in 7mm RM. And as far as I know, he's always taken his deer, moose and elk with head or neck shots. Last fall, I witnessed Wes take a decent bull moose from a ranged distance of 450 yards. Said moose collapsed and expired on the spot. I asked Wes where he'd aimed and he said "neck". When we got to the dead moose, there was a thumb sized hole through his neck. His spine was shattered.
Most of us wouldn't attempt a shot like that, but Wes did it with every confidence. He calculated the bullet would drop something like 20". (rifle zeroed at 300 yds.) Wind drift to be about 6". While I disagree with Wes's bullet choice, I'll never doubt his marksmanship. I guess you should stick with whatever works for you.
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08-04-2019, 04:28 PM
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139 gr hornady interlocks for my 7mm rem mag. A simple effective bullet
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08-04-2019, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by citysfs
Anyone got a starting load for Barnes 140 gr that they like. Inherited my dads gun and bought bx Barnes
1 in 9.5 twist according to my measurement on bbl?
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I use RL22
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08-05-2019, 03:15 AM
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You can post nosler numbers and crunch this and that, but the truth of the whole deal is some shooters are just natural real good shooters, lots of long hours of practice and getting your brain box to a higher level that many will never understand.
Why is one person so much better all the time more than 99 percent of the other guys.There geared in upstairs almost like a robot to always repeat the same process every time they squeeze that trigger to a higher degree of focus many can never obtain or achieve.
It's like that in many sports where it is one on one the cream always seems to rise to top to the ones who just have it in them.
In a world of 7.7 billion or more people some guys trump everyone year after year,it's no fluke there just that much better and stronger upstairs in doing what they love.
Most shooters shoot to enjoy the sport which is great,but I truly believe that if you get into any sport put 10000 percent into it and sometimes having a coach that knows how to get you there is very important.
Others that can see your mistakes can help in many ways.Not to be the best on the planet,but just being a very decent shooter and better yourself.
Some make it look easy and it is easy when you can just do it without any hesitation.
If your geared right upstairs I don't thing the cartridge has much to do with it,to some yes,but that's all upstairs also.
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08-05-2019, 03:32 AM
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Chuck never got to this point by just hoping to get there,he has put the time in over a long period and still wants better results and he will get better as long as he pushes forward.
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08-05-2019, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by JD848
Chuck never got to this point by just hoping to get there,he has put the time in over a long period and still wants better results and he will get better as long as he pushes forward.
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My 450 bushmaster cloverleafs all day with factory ammo.
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08-05-2019, 09:51 AM
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Chuck never got to this point by just hoping to get there,he has put the time in over a long period and still wants better results and he will get better as long as he pushes forward.
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This is so true.
I went out shooting with a couple of guys this morning out past 1100 yds. Both are great shooters. We walked bullets on to target, made adjustments etc. But, my Mashburn hit right where I aimed out to 600 yards every single time I pulled the trigger. Why? Because I have put almost a full work weeks worth of range time behind it in the last month. It certainly pays off.
I’m not that great of a shot really. I’ve just done it lots and fixed a bunch of screw ups I’ve made along the way to try and get better.
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08-05-2019, 11:08 AM
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This is so true.
I went out shooting with a couple of guys this morning out past 1100 yds. Both are great shooters. We walked bullets on to target, made adjustments etc. But, my Mashburn hit right where I aimed out to 600 yards every single time I pulled the trigger. Why? Because I have put almost a full work weeks worth of range time behind it in the last month. It certainly pays off.
I’m not that great of a shot really. I’ve just done it lots and fixed a bunch of screw ups I’ve made along the way to try and get better.
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Its looks like its paying off
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08-05-2019, 06:12 PM
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Chuck are those bullets you are shooting the long range Accubonds?
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08-05-2019, 06:23 PM
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No, they are the normal ones.
Today I was shooting the 145 LRX’s.
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Both of mine love 140 gr Accubonds.
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08-08-2019, 04:26 PM
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Hornady ELDX 162 shoot great out of my new 7.. haven’t shot anything with these yet but looking forward to seeing how they preform
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