Problem Elk

bowhuntercam · #1 01-03-2010, 11:04 PM

I will contact Fish and Wildlife tomorrow for more information.

I was contacted by a farmer who recently has been having a heep of trouble with elk pounding his hay stacks and destroying all his cattle feed. Can he shoot some of these elk? Does any one have any experience with this type of situation and how did you handle it?
Thanks Cam

Rockymtnx · #2 01-03-2010, 11:10 PM

NO he CAN NOT shoot the elk. That would get him in a pile of doggie doo doo.
He will need to contact SRD and they will come check the situation and advise an action plan.

sheepguide · #3 01-03-2010, 11:11 PM

Dont know alot about it but im sure he cant shoot any. In our area F&W used to bring out bang cannons and scare the elk away. And they used to subsidise but the farmer had to have let hunters in during hunting season.
I know a couple farmers that were turned down because they did not allow hunting.

drake · #4 01-04-2010, 11:32 AM

why not call up the closest native band........

sheepguide · #5 01-04-2010, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by drake

why not call up the closest native band........

Ya there is a great response!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why not deal with the elk. Fence feed yards or use scare tactics, Etc.

IR_mike · #6 01-04-2010, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sheepguide

Fence feed yards

Best solution possible.

albertadeer · #7 01-04-2010, 01:10 PM

Ya, fencing is the ONLY way to stop them...i watched as a herd of 100+ fed around a propane cannon, they get used to it in about 3-5 days...

bigbadjoe108 · #8 01-04-2010, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by albertadeer

Ya, fencing is the ONLY way to stop them...i watched as a herd of 100+ fed around a propane cannon, they get used to it in about 3-5 days...

Hard to believe this story. Please provide GPS co-ordinates and a permission slip to me no later than Nov 1st, 2010.

Austin · #9 01-04-2010, 02:09 PM

At least... have your buddy / farmer apply for a landowner permit next year so he can harvest and enjoy some elk meat. Before F&W scare them off.

clakjp · #10 01-04-2010, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by drake

why not call up the closest native band........

wow bud that is a geat idea... How bought you go screw a cat. I think people like you and your stupidity shold not be aloud to even hunt.No Indian or anybody else should be alould to kill them the season is over and Indians should have the same rights as us. My ancestors did not have to buy a tag just like indians. I have no rights like that so why the hell do they? I hate this subject. I think it is the government being racist to everybody other than natives. If I had the money I would fight the government over this. By the way TELL THE VERY SMART RANCHER TO PUT UP A FENCE LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

Joe Fehr · #11 01-04-2010, 02:57 PM

The problem being is that the F&W will suggest calling the local native band, who then come in and shoot all the bulls off the herd

My ******ed ex-wife did this last winter after their pitiful attempt at fencing didn't work out so well and this was the best F&W could come up with.

rmk800 · #12 01-04-2010, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by clakjp

wow bud that is a geat idea... How bought you go screw a cat. I think people like you and your stupidity shold not be aloud to even hunt.No Indian or anybody else should be alould to kill them the season is over and Indians should have the same rights as us. My ancestors did not have to buy a tag just like indians. I have no rights like that so why the hell do they? I hate this subject. I think it is the government being racist to everybody other than natives. If I had the money I would fight the government over this. By the way TELL THE VERY SMART RANCHER TO PUT UP A FENCE LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

Agreed...
nothing like some reverse racism giving a minority the "liscence to poach" for fear of being a politically incorrect government.
I though aboriginals were the first stewards of conservation??
anyways, thats off topic...
back to the elk problem....
maybe a few predators should be introduced into the area?

IR_mike · #13 01-04-2010, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Fehr

The problem being is that the F&W will suggest calling the local native band, who then come in and shoot all the bulls off the herd

My ******ed ex-wife did this last winter after their pitiful attempt at fencing didn't work out so well and this was the best F&W could come up with.

I've heard of them doing that in other areas as well.

Pretty short sighted on SRDs part.

The large bulls get shot, everything else in the herd disperses for a while then come back.

Same problem minus a few animals.

IR_mike · #14 01-04-2010, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rmk800

back to the elk problem....
maybe a few predators should be introduced into the area?

If the prey (elk) is present the predators (wolf/cougar) wont be far behind.

Scotty P. · #15 01-04-2010, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by clakjp

wow bud that is a geat idea... How bought you go screw a cat. I think people like you and your stupidity shold not be aloud to even hunt.No Indian or anybody else should be alould to kill them the season is over and Indians should have the same rights as us. My ancestors did not have to buy a tag just like indians. I have no rights like that so why the hell do they? I hate this subject. I think it is the government being racist to everybody other than natives. If I had the money I would fight the government over this. By the way TELL THE VERY SMART RANCHER TO PUT UP A FENCE LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

X2.

theduke · #16 01-04-2010, 03:22 PM

drakes post was simply an idea get hold of yourselves jeez, no one can post on here with out getting bashed these day.

drake · #17 01-04-2010, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by drake

why not call up the closest native band........

It pains me to think that F&W would actually suggest this as a soultion.....I guess i should have put a little smiley face behind my post so the dead heads could understand it was just a cheeky little comment.

God Bless!.....

clakjp · #18 01-04-2010, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by theduke

drakes post was simply an idea get hold of yourselves jeez, no one can post on here with out getting bashed these day.

Just like when you were a kid did your parents tell you THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK? That applies to alot of people on here.They say stupid things just to make people mad or try to be cool.

clakjp · #19 01-04-2010, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by drake

It pains me to think that F&W would actually suggest this as a soultion.....I guess i should have put a little smiley face behind my post so the dead heads could understand it was just a cheeky little comment.

God Bless!.....

that would have been smart, or maybe not posting it at all would have been smarter.

drake · #20 01-04-2010, 04:20 PM

Happy 10th post bud! I look forward to your future contributions around here!

clakjp · #21 01-04-2010, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by drake

Happy 10th post bud! I look forward to your future contributions around here!

what does it matter how many times i post on here I am sick of reading all of this crap on here.

theduke · #22 01-04-2010, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by clakjp

Just like when you were a kid did your parents tell you THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK? That applies to alot of people on here.They say stupid things just to make people mad or try to be cool.

its the internet lol

sheepguide · #23 01-04-2010, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by clakjp

what does it matter how many times i post on here I am sick of reading all of this crap on here.

there's a easy solution to this... DONT READ IT THEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

u_cant_rope_the_wind · #24 01-04-2010, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sheepguide

Ya there is a great response!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why not deal with the elk. Fence feed yards or use scare tactics, Etc.

isnt there a program that goes through our widlife resouce funds (wild life certificate funds) that fish and wildlife will supply and build game fences around the feed yards???
and why dont this guy take a few wrecked bales out to the edge of his fields to keep the elk off his hay stacks??? or did he leave his bales scattered all over the field????

RumRugby · #25 01-04-2010, 05:23 PM

A friend of mine had a similar issue with deer eating the bales. He phoned the local f&w and they brought out a bale wrap that is suppose to deter wildlife. It seems to work so far. I don't think it cost anything. If I recall correctly they had to sign the roll of wrap out from the f&w but they ended up just giving him the rest of the roll so they didn't have to go back and forth.

Another way is to allow hunters to go in and shoot them during hunting season, within reason, otherwise your next post will be "How do I keep hunters off my land!"

gramps73 · #26 01-04-2010, 05:28 PM

question does the land owner allow hunting?
is yes then look at F&W to help
if no then he is on his own...cost wise.
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u_cant_rope_the_wind · #27 01-04-2010, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by clakjp

wow bud that is a geat idea... How bought you go screw a cat. I think people like you and your stupidity shold not be aloud to even hunt.No Indian or anybody else should be alould to kill them the season is over and Indians should have the same rights as us. My ancestors did not have to buy a tag just like indians. I have no rights like that so why the hell do they? I hate this subject. I think it is the government being racist to everybody other than natives. If I had the money I would fight the government over this. By the way TELL THE VERY SMART RANCHER TO PUT UP A FENCE LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

good answer i agree 100% of the way lets start a lawyer fund to fight the government on this, isnt it time we let our disfunctional governments know we wont tolerate crap any more??
oh please define goverment, and who is exactly is the government????

sonny · #28 01-04-2010, 05:33 PM

Does this farmer allow hunting on his property during hunting season,if so as said before on earlier post , the Fish@Wildlife will supply fence, landowner will have to setup fence.
SRD, and Fish@Wildlife must be notified first.

clakjp · #29 01-04-2010, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sheepguide

there's a easy solution to this... DONT READ IT THEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

how can you not read somebody posts call the Indians in? That is bull and you and I both know it. As for all the good on this site I really enjoy it. I cant beleve some of the things people say on here. I can tell they are behind a computer and not face to face with people because they would not say it.

clakjp · #30 01-04-2010, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by u_cant_rope_the_wind

good answer i agree 100% of the way lets start a lawyer fund to fight the government on this, isnt it time we let our disfunctional governments know we wont tolerate crap any more??
oh please define goverment, and who is exactly is the government????

What do you mean? as far as I figure anybody that agrees with it. Courts.