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Old 11-02-2023, 01:26 PM
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Default How do you count a 4 x4 White tail or a Mule deer ?

So many people count them differently.
I guess I am old school as back in the day when it came to mule deer you could only shoot a 3 pointer and brow tines were not included in the count .
So we did not include it with whitetails when we would say shot a nice 4x4

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Old 11-02-2023, 01:36 PM
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A 4x4 whitetail all points on one side including brow tine is counted.
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Old 11-02-2023, 02:13 PM
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Yeah I count brow times on white tail, but on mule deer not so much. Unless it’s non typical, then we can go nuts lol


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Old 11-02-2023, 02:51 PM
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I count them all even the ones that haven’t grown yet




This is a 12 point.


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Old 11-02-2023, 04:30 PM
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Brow tine is a scorable point. All there is to it.
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Old 11-02-2023, 05:10 PM
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So many people count them differently.
I guess I am old school as back in the day when it came to mule deer you could only shoot a 3 pointer and brow tines were not included in the count .
So we did not include it with whitetails when we would say shot a nice 4x4
Your three point mule deer required three points of a prescribed length. Brow tines would have counted for that requirement.
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Old 11-02-2023, 05:28 PM
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Your three point mule deer required three points of a prescribed length. Brow tines would have counted for that requirement.
Nope back in the day they were not counted
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Old 11-02-2023, 05:31 PM
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We always counted them like I believe the B &C scores them, white tails yes, Mule deer no.
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Old 11-02-2023, 05:36 PM
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Your three point mule deer required three points of a prescribed length. Brow tines would have counted for that requirement.
Nope back in the day they were not counted . Back then we had metal tags and in most of the antelope zones I remember they had the 3 point or bigger rule for mule deer and in the regs it showed a picture where you had 3 points on one side and a large brow tine and an arrow pointing to the brow tine saying not included in the count . Other wize every one would be shooting fork horns with a bow tine .
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Old 11-02-2023, 05:54 PM
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Nope back in the day they were not counted . Back then we had metal tags and in most of the antelope zones I remember they had the 3 point or bigger rule for mule deer and in the regs it showed a picture where you had 3 points on one side and a large brow tine and an arrow pointing to the brow tine saying not included in the count . Other wize every one would be shooting fork horns with a bow tine .
That’s how dumb people making these stupid rules are. How many little Mule Deer fork horns have you seen with a score-able brow tine?
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Old 11-02-2023, 06:00 PM
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I count them all even the ones that haven’t grown yet




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Nice. I have shot some 12 pointers that weren’t even that big.
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Old 11-02-2023, 06:08 PM
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Historically brow times were counted on whitetail but not mulie. Problem is, like the OP, people extend all kinds of interpretations out from the original idea. Not with any kind of nefarious intent, just whatever they thought makes sense.

Stupid rule anyway. Glad it’s gone.

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Old 11-02-2023, 07:24 PM
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I like to count every point because it drives people crazy
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Old 11-02-2023, 07:36 PM
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Nice gun.


QUOTE=58thecat;4672908]I count them all even the ones that haven’t grown yet




This is a 12 point.


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Old 11-02-2023, 08:03 PM
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We always counted them like I believe the B &C scores them, white tails yes, Mule deer no.
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For sure people always look at a mulie, and if it's got the front forks and back forks it's a '4 point', and ignore brow tines if present, but again, brow points are a scorable point, whether it's a mulie or whitetail.

Of course mule deer are weird and even big mulies sometimes don't have brow tines, but if they do they are scored.
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Old 11-02-2023, 08:57 PM
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For sure people always look at a mulie, and if it's got the front forks and back forks it's a '4 point', and ignore brow tines if present, but again, brow points are a scorable point, whether it's a mulie or whitetail.

Of course mule deer are weird and even big mulies sometimes don't have brow tines, but if they do they are scored.
You gotta remember grizzly that point needs to exceed a inch in order for it to be scored as a point either whitetail or mulie.
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Old 11-02-2023, 09:17 PM
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You gotta remember grizzly that point needs to exceed a inch in order for it to be scored as a point either whitetail or mulie.
A point must be minimum 1" and length must exceed the width of the base...
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Old 11-03-2023, 05:22 AM
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My old hunting partner used to say if the point is long enough to poke your eye out count it points were never important to me years ago I was a meat hunter, now though if it's not a wall hanger it will keep on trucking.
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Old 11-03-2023, 07:52 AM
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Me and my hunting partners have always counted WT the same as MD.
We know that WT will more than likely have brow tines so we dont feel the need to add them to the count.
This way the count is consistent between MD, WT and elk.
Count them how you like and don't let anyone tell you you're doing if wrong.
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Old 11-03-2023, 08:15 AM
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The brow tines on a whitetail can add significantly to the score, so we count them. On the other hand, the brow tines on a mule deer rarely add much at all, so we don't count them . I do get a laugh when someone from the east adds both sides, to try and make a buck sound bigger.
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Old 11-03-2023, 06:15 PM
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Come Nov 1 . I don't even want to shoot a buck unless its worth mounting .
Had a doe and a buck at the end Oct and the buck meat smelt like a dog ****ed all over it ...... I guess thats way people make pepperoni out of it
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Old 11-04-2023, 07:11 AM
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I count with my fingers, but if its a real big one I take off my boots!
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