Point Of Arrow Sighting!!!

[L.O.S.T.Arrow]

Not to be confused with POI or "Point of Impact"

Actual Point of arrow sighting distance...for those playing with the 100YD challange...[didnt want to hijack that thread]

Example Back in the day of 190 FPS smokin bows and everyone was 29" Draw and 70lb pull regardless of height, strength etc...

With the Easton Aluminum 2216 cut at 30" ...with rests of the day you didnt dare cut arrows shorter than 1" in front of riser...

Anyway...it was a science because my set up using the point of arrow was exactally 100yds...


Many of my traditional shooter freinds used point of arrow as a aiming sight and were incredibly deadly...a method which wouldnt have changed to date.

However with moderen Compounds I am just curious what shooters yardage is today using point of arrow for an aiming point...

Since many are out playing with the 100 yard challage this would be a good time to play with this method also...

Very curious to know results with the different setups...

Neil

[Kurt505]

What are you talking about Neil? I point my arrow at everything I shoot at!

[Lefty-Canuck]

I know with my one setup, I can't dial more than 110yards or my fletching hits my sight housing

Be pretty funny to drive an arrow through the middle of your sight.

LC

[L.O.S.T.Arrow]

Originally Posted by Kurt505

What are you talking about Neil? I point my arrow at everything I shoot at!

Lol...actually used the very tip of your field tip...

[L.O.S.T.Arrow]

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

I know with my one setup, I can't dial more than 110yards or my fletching hits my sight housing

Be pretty funny to drive an arrow through the middle of your sight.

LC

With your setup Im thinking it may be closer than you think...faster bow with shorter arrows...

Of course Im guessing...lol

Hence the curiousity and another challange...lol

Neil

[Lefty-Canuck]

Originally Posted by L.O.S.T.Arrow

With your setup Im thinking it may be closer than you think...faster bow with shorter arrows...

Of course Im guessing...lol

Hence the curiousity and another challange...lol

Neil

I know it isn't touching at 100 yards setting (arrow flight is still perfect)....I also know I don't really want to test it to see how far it can really go

LC

[L.O.S.T.Arrow]

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

I know it isn't touching at 100 yards setting (arrow flight is still perfect)....I also know I don't really want to test it to see how far it can really go

LC

[L.O.S.T.Arrow]

lol

Easy to caculate on close target...point of arrow on X ...caculate high POI X FPS X knowing your set up= POA POI

*Whistle*

Neil

[kujoseto]

Rather than posting that chicken, just go out and shoot it for yourself lol
Or maybe you did and you just want everyone else to launch an arrow 350 yards haha.

[Matt L.]

Originally Posted by kujoseto

Rather than posting that chicken, just go out and shoot it for yourself lol
Or maybe you did and you just want everyone else to launch an arrow 350 yards haha.

No...no, I wanna see this. I think Lefty should post video proof.

[L.O.S.T.Arrow]

Originally Posted by kujoseto

Rather than posting that chicken, just go out and shoot it for yourself lol
Or maybe you did and you just want everyone else to launch an arrow 350 yards haha.

Oh I plan too this weekend...I got no pin feathers...lol
Neil

[kujoseto]

I suppose everybody will be slightly different...I'm thinking length of arrow will make a difference and even things like anchor point, length of your neck, perhaps other things will make slight differences. Depending on how it turns out for others I just may take a crack at it...I'm definitely more the chicken lol

[Lefty-Canuck]

Considering some folks *whistle* were complaining about the weather and have yet to post a picture of the OLD challenge and want to concoct a new one...

LC

[Kurt505]

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

Considering some folks *whistle* were complaining about the weather and have yet to post a picture of the OLD challenge and want to concoct a new one...

LC

Wait a minute......

Doesn't Neil sell arrows???

[L.O.S.T.Arrow]

OK Gentlemen...one doesn't have to be a rocket scientist or lose arrows to figure this out...
A touch of wily E. coyote genius is all that is needed....

I leveled a piece of 2 Inch piece of tape...the gopher being my point of aim...

For this test I used my APA Viper AIR....28" Draw @66 LBs with 28" 440 Gr arrows, I have up to 80 YD pins on this bow...

Now at 20 YD looking at POA=[Point Of Arrow in this case] I could tell it would be off the target into wall...so I moved up to 10 yds for this test...mathematically it will still work out...

So at 10 YDS using 20 YD pin... you can see arrow is approx 1.5" high...where it should be ...now still using the X of the black ring in the gopher I shot the 50 YD pin...then the 80 Yd pin...then the moment of truth..the POA...[Point Of Arrow]

Now since I don't use a peep and line of sight is using the right side of string when I using the point of arrow I was left of tape...I wanted to test a second shot anyway so I shot another using POA ...but I compensated for line of sight...it was beside the first but in the tape...I pulled the first for the pictures...

Then using a measuring tape I did a little math...on paper there with no arrow drop, velocity, trajectory etc it read 200yd plus...

Taking into consideration the velocity, trajectory, arrow drop etc...I calculated Point of impact at approx 190 ydsPOA

Now using the wily E. coyote genius scenario...I also KNOW where my 100YD pin should be....

..Which is going to be way below my actually sight pin ring itself and just slight above my Ugly cookie Ring...SO with a dab of paint on Ugly cookie I am ready for the 100 YD challenge







NOTE* The red level tape is used on a walk back tune method ...this would be the perfect arrow flight straight in line...showing sight is level or shooter isn't canting the bow...


I am feeling so Wily I think I will go fall off a cliff or somthin....

Wily E. Coyote

[Kurt505]

Nice work Neil!

I can't even figure out how to add in the little red lines with the yellow numbers, let alone figure out my yardages

I'll be eagerly awaiting your 190yd group pictures!

[pseelk]

Neil,You are way to wily for your own good!

[kujoseto]

Outstanding. Can't wait to see the outdoor test at those distances

[L.O.S.T.Arrow]

Originally Posted by kujoseto

Outstanding. Can't wait to see the outdoor test at those distances

I wont be shooting any groups a 190 yds....lol

Since I don't use a peep using the POA I am using a sight line to the right of the string....my pins are in line but POA will be way off...

So I will stick with the 100 yd challenge when I get to it...lol

I will confirm with one arrow thou...


Neil

[kujoseto]

Forgot about this thread. Found it while searching for something else. Figured I'd revive it in case someone wants to try it, then test the distance outside

[L.O.S.T.Arrow]

Never did try the 190 group ...lol

but as predicted the 100 yd challange was very close and group was ok

was fun

Neil