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10-13-2013, 10:54 PM
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Some brookies, Some bullies and a hybrid?
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10-13-2013, 11:13 PM
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Beauty fish dude. I'm really interested about the debate on the hybrid after our discussion tonight!
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10-13-2013, 11:14 PM
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Some really nice looking fish there! Looks like a great day out
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10-14-2013, 12:26 AM
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Sure looks like a hybrid. Has the worm markings, red spots with blue halos and even looks like it might have some black spots on its dorsal fin(hard to see though) which all points towards brookie. The colouration is a little different though and the head and body shape are more like a bull.
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10-14-2013, 12:49 AM
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Nice colors!!
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10-14-2013, 07:11 AM
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A little off from the norm, need a better pic of it's dorsal but till then.. bull
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10-14-2013, 08:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Taco
A little off from the norm, need a better pic of it's dorsal but till then.. bull
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No expert here by any stretch of the imagination, but to challenge your statement, i have a couple questions:
1) Do bulls ever have red spots?
2) Do bulls ever have the "camo markings" on it's back?
From what I've seen, and what little knowledge I have, those are distinctive Brook markings, but I'm certainly game to be edumakated 
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10-14-2013, 09:28 AM
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they look like pre spawn Brookies to me. a couple years ago on cataract creek we caught a lot of them that look like this. there heads get very pronounced if there is an over abundance of them in a stream. they become stunted there head continues to grow but there bodies stay small
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10-14-2013, 09:30 AM
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looks like a hybrid to me. I was also possibly thinking that the first picture you say is a bull could be one too. I can kind of see the vermiculations behind its head.
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10-14-2013, 09:40 AM
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http://www.backcountryfsj.com/index/char_id.pdf
Here you go Char identifier. Worm like markings Brook trout, halos around spot brook trout, black on dorsal fin brook trout.
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10-14-2013, 10:54 AM
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Beautiful looking fish there!!!
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10-14-2013, 11:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bhflyfisher
looks like a hybrid to me. I was also possibly thinking that the first picture you say is a bull could be one too. I can kind of see the vermiculations behind its head.
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That's a much better word than "camo markings". Thank you!
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10-14-2013, 11:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bhflyfisher
looks like a hybrid to me. I was also possibly thinking that the first picture you say is a bull could be one too. I can kind of see the vermiculations behind its head.
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Good eye, interesting.
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10-14-2013, 12:16 PM
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Might and maybe doesn't cut it, until I see black on it's dorsal it's a bull
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10-14-2013, 03:22 PM
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The second last image shows the dorsal fin and you can see there are markings on it imo.
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10-14-2013, 03:47 PM
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Ya'll got better eyes than I do.. all I see is some maybe black
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10-14-2013, 08:49 PM
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Looks like a brookie, I've seen "specks" that resemble lakers even, especially the coaster brook trout! I've heard that there are places in the east slopes that were stocked with coasters! Mayhaps this is one!
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10-14-2013, 08:53 PM
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from the 2nd last image
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10-14-2013, 09:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BeeGuy
from the 2nd last image
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Pure brookie!
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10-14-2013, 10:02 PM
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I hate ****in' pictures
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10-14-2013, 10:46 PM
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It's too bad that the bull trout's population genetics is becoming contaminated.
Some of the fish in those pics look like hybrids to me, but really, genetic analysis is the way to know for certain.
Brookies.....kill'm all.
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10-14-2013, 11:38 PM
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Does anyone here know if these hybrids are sterile?
I was previously unaware of any brook trout in this particular creek
(different creek than the brookies from the pictures)
I might have to sneak out and do some more "investigating"
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10-14-2013, 11:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Liarsenic
Does anyone here know if these hybrids are sterile?
I was previously unaware of any brook trout in this particular creek
(different creek than the brookies from the pictures)
I might have to sneak out and do some more "investigating"
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This paper states that their study population was composed of only 1st generation male hybrids, suggesting sterility.
Consistently High Meristic Counts in Natural Hybrids Between Brook Trout and Bull Trout
Robb F. Leary, Fred W. Allendorf and Kathy L. Knudsen
Systematic Zoology
Vol. 32, No. 4 (Dec., 1983), pp. 369-376
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10-16-2013, 11:19 PM
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Nice Bullookie
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