Alberta government set to introduce ATV helmet legislation today

[north american hunter]

Originally Posted by thundergrey

Freedom of choice is being taken away and most don't even care. In fact they welcome it...

If I am recreation riding I take my helmet, if I am hunting I will not.

X2.

[Unregistered user]

Originally Posted by crazy_davey

The typical supporter of an ATV helmet law:



Sad, but so very true... Don't worry, the NDP will make sure you're safe from yourselves. Just don't go outside without your helmets until they have it all finalized

I'm sure I'll go to hell for laughing at that.

[Carson Blocks]

I just spent the last few days hunting in subzero temps, using my side-by-side to get between spots, haul my blind and hunting junk around, get to my hunted animal etc, and was glad to be able to wear my insulated fur lined hunting hat instead of a cold ATV helmet that was designed for summer use. For plodding up and down cut lines and around leases at reasonable speeds in a responsible manner, I never once felt like I needed a helmet. I'm an adult and can decide my own risk tolerance and when I need to wear a helmet and when I don't.

The way some people are fighting for this law and arguing the pros of helmets, you'd wonder if they knew they could choose to wear one regardless of the law. If your personal views lead you to believe you should wear a helmet no matter what the speed or circumstance, go for it, no one is stopping you. That doesn't mean I shouldn't be able to make my own decision as well.

Also, I don't see the difference in plodding down a trail in my fully caged side-by-side, or a Jeep (which wouldn't require a helmet). ATV users encompass such a wide cross-section of machines, terrains, uses, and riding styles that I believe it's foolhardy to assume that just because a helmet should be worn in some situations, it should be worn in all situations. Let grown adults make their own decisions on the best gear for their particular task. For the record, I do have full face ATV helmets in my trailer, and use them when the situation calls for it.

[last minute]

All I can do is laugh this thread is hilarious

Forrest Gump once said!

[jungleboy]

Originally Posted by Carson Blocks

I just spent the last few days hunting in subzero temps, using my side-by-side to get between spots, haul my blind and hunting junk around, get to my hunted animal etc, and was glad to be able to wear my insulated fur lined hunting hat instead of a cold ATV helmet that was designed for summer use. For plodding up and down cut lines and around leases at reasonable speeds in a responsible manner, I never once felt like I needed a helmet. I'm an adult and can decide my own risk tolerance and when I need to wear a helmet and when I don't.

The way some people are fighting for this law and arguing the pros of helmets, you'd wonder if they knew they could choose to wear one regardless of the law. If your personal views lead you to believe you should wear a helmet no matter what the speed or circumstance, go for it, no one is stopping you. That doesn't mean I shouldn't be able to make my own decision as well.

Also, I don't see the difference in plodding down a trail in my fully caged side-by-side, or a Jeep (which wouldn't require a helmet). ATV users encompass such a wide cross-section of machines, terrains, uses, and riding styles that I believe it's foolhardy to assume that just because a helmet should be worn in some situations, it should be worn in all situations. Let grown adults make their own decisions on the best gear for their particular task. For the record, I do have full face ATV helmets in my trailer, and use them when the situation calls for it.

keep in mind that the government couldn't possibly care less about whether a helmet will impede hunting, as a matter of fact I am sure they will take it as an unintended upshot of their new addition to the "Alberta nanny state rules to live by book".

[243 wild cat]

Originally Posted by crazy_davey

The typical supporter of an ATV helmet law:



Sad, but so very true... Don't worry, the NDP will make sure you're safe from yourselves. Just don't go outside without your helmets until they have it all finalized

Not sad no no its not sad. Its so very true LMAO!! great to see they will make it so safe for us

[Off in the Bushes]

I think its a simple solution which takes away the nanny thinking is if you choose not to thats fine, but if you are in a accident and receive a head injury the medical bill is on you. If you can afford to recreate with a OHV then you can afford a helmet.

[jungleboy]

Originally Posted by Off in the Bushes

I think its a simple solution which takes away the nanny thinking is if you choose not to thats fine, but if you are in a accident and receive a head injury the medical bill is on you. If you can afford to recreate with a OHV then you can afford a helmet.

I suppose you are right . we should be responsible for our own actions . Similarly if you choose to consume alcohol and end up needing a liver transplant somewhere down the road , you should pay that medical cost as well or if you Smoke and get cancer pay up or if you cause a traffic accident you should really pay the victims medical expenses. What if you are out hunting and fall and break your arm? Surely the rest of society should not pay for that since you choose to do something risky like an outdoor activity? just sayin

[Jigger]

Originally Posted by jungleboy

I suppose you are right . we should be responsible for our own actions . Similarly if you choose to consume alcohol and end up needing a liver transplant somewhere down the road , you should pay that medical cost as well or if you Smoke and get cancer pay up or if you cause a traffic accident you should really pay the victims medical expenses. What if you are out hunting and fall and break your arm? Surely the rest of society should not pay for that since you choose to do something risky like an outdoor activity? just sayin

Good post dont think he thought that through before posting.

[Klondike]

Originally Posted by crazy_davey

The typical supporter of an ATV helmet law:



Sad, but so very true... Don't worry, the NDP will make sure you're safe from yourselves. Just don't go outside without your helmets until they have it all finalized

Looks more like someone who as already sustained a head injury and they are trying to prevent a second one.
Do you ridicule people with physical disfigurement and the obese as well?

Nice delta bravo post

[raab]

Originally Posted by Off in the Bushes

I think its a simple solution which takes away the nanny thinking is if you choose not to thats fine, but if you are in a accident and receive a head injury the medical bill is on you. If you can afford to recreate with a OHV then you can afford a helmet.

If you can afford to eat at Macdonalds, you can afford not to eat.... so obese people should pay their own healthcare costs. And I'm the one with leftist ideas. We don't need nannie laws, we need people who can think for themselves and are responsible. Time for some people to grow up, and stop acting like kids.

[HyperMOA]

Originally Posted by Off in the Bushes

I think its a simple solution which takes away the nanny thinking is if you choose not to thats fine, but if you are in a accident and receive a head injury the medical bill is on you. If you can afford to recreate with a OHV then you can afford a helmet.

This is the biggest BS answer to level in these debates. I DO pay for healthcare already, and much more than my share. If you feel this is the case for ATV's then it better apply to every injury, sickness, or death other than natural causes. I mean why should I pay for your heart attack care when you could've eaten more kale? In fact maybe our government can ban all food but kale. I mean its ridiculous that you would ever eat anything but kale anyways.

[Unregistered user]

Originally Posted by jungleboy

I suppose you are right . we should be responsible for our own actions . Similarly if you choose to consume alcohol and end up needing a liver transplant somewhere down the road , you should pay that medical cost as well or if you Smoke and get cancer pay up or if you cause a traffic accident you should really pay the victims medical expenses. What if you are out hunting and fall and break your arm? Surely the rest of society should not pay for that since you choose to do something risky like an outdoor activity? just sayin

Agreed 100% Enough of this socialist crap.

[huntsfurfish]

Best just to ban atv use on public land.

No helmet problem then.

[Dmedlicott1]

Originally Posted by Carson Blocks

I just spent the last few days hunting in subzero temps, using my side-by-side to get between spots, haul my blind and hunting junk around, get to my hunted animal etc, and was glad to be able to wear my insulated fur lined hunting hat instead of a cold ATV helmet that was designed for summer use. For plodding up and down cut lines and around leases at reasonable speeds in a responsible manner, I never once felt like I needed a helmet. I'm an adult and can decide my own risk tolerance and when I need to wear a helmet and when I don't.

The way some people are fighting for this law and arguing the pros of helmets, you'd wonder if they knew they could choose to wear one regardless of the law. If your personal views lead you to believe you should wear a helmet no matter what the speed or circumstance, go for it, no one is stopping you. That doesn't mean I shouldn't be able to make my own decision as well.

Also, I don't see the difference in plodding down a trail in my fully caged side-by-side, or a Jeep (which wouldn't require a helmet). ATV users encompass such a wide cross-section of machines, terrains, uses, and riding styles that I believe it's foolhardy to assume that just because a helmet should be worn in some situations, it should be worn in all situations. Let grown adults make their own decisions on the best gear for their particular task. For the record, I do have full face ATV helmets in my trailer, and use them when the situation calls for it.

Best post I have read on this topic! Also agree what makes my side x side any different then a truck or a jeep. A convertible. (No roll cage) maybe you should have to wear a helmet in a convertible.

[crazy_davey]

Originally Posted by Klondike

Looks more like someone who as already sustained a head injury and they are trying to prevent a second one.
Do you ridicule people with physical disfigurement and the obese as well?

Nice delta bravo post

It is a skit from Saturday Night Live about a hyper active child, has nothing to do with someone who sustained a head injury actually. Its was posted as a joke princess, I'm sorry you are overly sensitive. Hopefully you have a NDP created safe place to go to.

The only delta bravo post here is yours. Surely I don't want to offend anyone or hurt anyone's feelings today in this politically incorrect world we live in

[Klondike]

Originally Posted by crazy_davey

It is a skit from Saturday Night Live about a hyper active child, has nothing to do with someone who sustained a head injury actually. Its was posted as a joke princess, I'm sorry you are overly sensitive. Hopefully you have a NDP created safe place to go to.

The only delta bravo post here is yours. Surely I don't want to offend anyone or hurt anyone's feelings today in this politically incorrect world we live in

You're the one who's head is exploding over helmet legislation that you haven't even read yet. The way I see it there is no reason for some to wear a helmet as there nothing there to protect anyways

[crazy_davey]

Originally Posted by Klondike

You're the one who's head is exploding over helmet legislation that you haven't even read yet. The way I see it there is no reason for some to wear a helmet as there nothing there to protect anyways

No heads exploding here, I can assure you.

But please, keep wearing a helmet daily in the future. Maybe it will help your brain in the long run comprehend such simple things as a joke, without having to have it explained to you before you understand.