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11-28-2016, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by bigbaddad
When you have publicly funded health care, you pay for that security with liberty.
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Well perhaps we should get rid of fast food, cars, soda pops, etc... Using public health care to support this position is stupid. I worked in healthcare for a long time, there are far more injuries because of alcohol with ATV users then helmet use. But since most Drunk ATV users dont use a helmet they skew the statistics.
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11-28-2016, 02:42 PM
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Another BS law that impinges our freedom - pure junk.
Educate don't legislate
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11-28-2016, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by HunterDave
Hunting, checking traps, cutting firewood, putting pier sections in/out of the lake......all things that I probably won't wear a helmet for. I guess that I'm a rebel now!
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You won't be the only rebel out there iam sure, can't see how a trapper could get used to wearing a helmet. Don't have a problem with the under 18 law.
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11-28-2016, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by fish_e_o
there's nothing wrong with jumping off your quad and slamming in a mag
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Fair enough, not my thing but perfectly legal.
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Originally Posted by CMichaud
Another BS law that impinges our freedom - pure junk.
Educate don't legislate
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How much would it cost to attempt to educate the masses, and actually convince them helmets are worth wearing? How successful do you think that campaign would be? Would you be here complaining on how much money the government was wasting on a pointless plan to educate people on safety of ATV helmet use? Let's be honest here.
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11-28-2016, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Bergerboy
Exactly. Since people are not smart enough to wear one on their own accord they had to make it law.
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Or possibly some are more intelligent than the, "some is good, more is always better" crowd. If you aren't intelligent enough to govern yourself, you are the problem. Mankind survived a fairly long run without legislation. Now its the weak-minded that require their lives legislated from sun-up to sun-down. If people were intelligent enough to not need a nanny state, the human race wouldn't be de-volving.
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11-28-2016, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeron Kahyar
How much would it cost to attempt to educate the masses, and actually convince them helmets are worth wearing? How successful do you think that campaign would be? Would you be here complaining on how much money the government was wasting on a pointless plan to educate people on safety of ATV helmet use? Let's be honest here.
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How much will it cost to ineffectively implement and enforce this?
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11-28-2016, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jstubbs
Shocking it took so long for this to become law. How many deaths and tax dollars spent could have been prevented by morons simply wearing helmets while riding their ATVs? I think Brian Mason is a spud but props to him & others for bringing this legislation to life finally.
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Maybe "we" could save some more tax dollars and make it law that you wear one in your car......
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11-28-2016, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Bergerboy
Open faced helmet. I figured most quadders would be more upset about having a helmet get in the way of their beer drinking.
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That will provide a good solid cheek-weld right there. Have you ever held a rifle?
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11-28-2016, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by HyperMOA
That will provide a good solid cheek-weld right there. Have you ever held a rifle?
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Of course I have not held a real rifle! I would never leave my keyboard or moms basement to engage in such activities!
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11-28-2016, 03:50 PM
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That's unfortunate; I quite enjoy riding my dual sport around while hunting and fishing without a helmet.
I guess we'll just have to add this to pile of nanny laws I ignore and break every day.
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11-28-2016, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ehrgeiz
That's unfortunate; I quite enjoy riding my dual sport around while hunting and fishing without a helmet.
I guess we'll just have to add this to pile of nanny laws I ignore and break every day.
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They should have constructed the helmet law the same a lifejacket laws... as long as you have a helmet attached to the ATV somewhere, you're good to go. 
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11-28-2016, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by raab
Dumb law, you dont need a helmet on a ATV if you know what your doing and not driving like an idiot.
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Yeah because accidents only happen when one isn't.
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11-28-2016, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by HyperMOA
How much will it cost to ineffectively implement and enforce this?
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Likely will make money. There isn't going be be more patrols looking for this specifically. It will just be the exact same enforcement we are already paying for having the ability to ticket a new offence. Will either option (law or education) be effective; doubtful.
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11-28-2016, 04:15 PM
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So a 12 year old girl can ride an 800 lb horse as hard as she can barrel racing without a helmet legally but a 50 year old man or woman will not be able to ride his or her quad down a trail bird hunting without one. Sounds about right.
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11-28-2016, 04:20 PM
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I don't wear a helmet when I'm checking the cows at home or getting feed and dragging it out. It's on flat land, and worst I have to worry about is getting chased by a cow... I generally drive really slow doing that. I"m more likely to take something through the body than the head doing that... Maybe I should wear body armor... Wait... They banned that...
However, if I go on the road for longer than it takes to get to the other house on the yard (Mom doesn't like me ridding the quad over the lawn), I put on a helmet simply because of eye windburn. I can't wear goggles as I'd fog them right up in 3 minutes. Doesn't seem to matter how I treat them to keep them from fogging...
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11-28-2016, 04:38 PM
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People...
it's a helmet.
Aside from helmet hair..what's the big deal.
You need PPE for the majority of the jobs out there,
Seat belts and airbags in cars.
Riding a pedal bike, motorcycle, rally cars, hockey players ...ETC. Wear helmets.
Give your unprotected melon a shake
And protect it when you need it.
Should be common sense and not something the nannies should tell us.
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11-28-2016, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ehrgeiz
That's unfortunate; I quite enjoy riding my dual sport around while hunting and fishing without a helmet.
I guess we'll just have to add this to pile of nanny laws I ignore and break every day.
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Originally Posted by HyperMOA
Or possibly some are more intelligent than the, "some is good, more is always better" crowd. If you aren't intelligent enough to govern yourself, you are the problem. Mankind survived a fairly long run without legislation. Now its the weak-minded that require their lives legislated from sun-up to sun-down. If people were intelligent enough to not need a nanny state, the human race wouldn't be de-volving.
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11-28-2016, 05:16 PM
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Helmuts are uncomfortable and restrict your vision , making them a hazard wearing one.
lf your a goof and go tearing up the world then wear one , but the putt putters are not going to kill themselves at 5mph
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11-28-2016, 05:31 PM
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I just thought about this... I have a pull behind mower for my ATV. Does this mean I need to mow my lawn with a helmet on?
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11-28-2016, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ETOWNCANUCK
Yeah because accidents only happen when one isn't.
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Most accidents are preventable. If were going to try and improve safety for all terrain vehicles why not through education and prevention? Id argue a simple course similar to what they have for Boating would be more effective in reducing injuries.
Another for prevention could be maintained trails with set limits. Also very stiff fines for driving under the influence.
By bringing in the helmet law its a cop out. Something that even a 4 year old could think up. It doesnt prevent the accident and it may or may not help depending on the mechanism of injury. It also punishes safe resposible ATV users who drive responsibly. Its a complete waste of time and just a gimmick to help retail sales in Alberta which are down since Notley took over.
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11-28-2016, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by mad mountain mike
So a 12 year old girl can ride an 800 lb horse as hard as she can barrel racing without a helmet legally but a 50 year old man or woman will not be able to ride his or her quad down a trail bird hunting without one. Sounds about right.
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Hey leave the horse argument out of this. Still want a bit of freedom 
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11-28-2016, 06:01 PM
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I'm much happier to were a helmet on a quad than having to wear a hard hat all the time at work.
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11-28-2016, 06:09 PM
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I think nothing of going all day on snowmobile or ATV without a helmet, but if the grandkids are coming, YEP, helmeted all day long. Now if my ole noodle takes a whack, just let me be, I will be fine. But if something preventable happened to the kids I would have a truly hard time to live with it.
I guess it's something we all knew would come, just sad that common sense needs to be legislated.
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11-28-2016, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jstubbs
Shocking it took so long for this to become law. How many deaths and tax dollars spent could have been prevented by morons simply wearing helmets while riding their ATVs? I think Brian Mason is a spud but props to him & others for bringing this legislation to life finally.
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Originally Posted by Bergerboy
Exactly. Since people are not smart enough to wear one on their own accord they had to make it law.
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Originally Posted by bigbaddad
When you have publicly funded health care, you pay for that security with liberty.
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Originally Posted by ETOWNCANUCK
People...
it's a helmet.
Aside from helmet hair..what's the big deal.
You need PPE for the majority of the jobs out there,
Seat belts and airbags in cars.
Riding a pedal bike, motorcycle, rally cars, hockey players ...ETC. Wear helmets.
Give your unprotected melon a shake
And protect it when you need it.
Should be common sense and not something the nannies should tell us.
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I look forward to the day they ban all junk food, pop, bacon, beer, ect.....
I'm getting tired of my taxes going towards health care to pay for all the fat azzes and their resulting health issues that arise from them indulging in the above list. Should be common sense to avoid all these foods, but guess common sense isn't so common any more.
The libtard/leftist/socialist/nanny state movement is gaining momentum at an alarming rate here in Canuckastan. One has to look no further than here and all those in agreement with yet another nanny law
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11-28-2016, 06:30 PM
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Is this going to include side x sides?
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11-28-2016, 06:39 PM
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When will this madness end, can't people be responsible for there own actions, if they bring this law in I am selling up, just another noose tightening, I thought Canada was the land of freedom I guess not anymore, I give it 5-10 years then guns will be illegal to own.
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11-28-2016, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MountainTi
I look forward to the day they ban all junk food, pop, bacon, beer, ect.....
I'm getting tired of my taxes going towards health care to pay for all the fat azzes and their resulting health issues that arise from them indulging in the above list. Should be common sense to avoid all these foods, but guess common sense isn't so common any more.
The libtard/leftist/socialist/nanny state movement is gaining momentum at an alarming rate here in Canuckastan. One has to look no further than here and all those in agreement with yet another nanny law
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This ^^^^ x 100000 ! 
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11-28-2016, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by MountainTi
I look forward to the day they ban all junk food, pop, bacon, beer, ect.....
I'm getting tired of my taxes going towards health care to pay for all the fat azzes and their resulting health issues that arise from them indulging in the above list. Should be common sense to avoid all these foods, but guess common sense isn't so common any more.
The libtard/leftist/socialist/nanny state movement is gaining momentum at an alarming rate here in Canuckastan. One has to look no further than here and all those in agreement with yet another nanny law
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When are they banning bacon? Holy snap now I'm pizzed. Those NDP better not ban bacon.
Banning bacon outta BE against the law. Where's the petiton.
BW.
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11-28-2016, 06:52 PM
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11-28-2016, 07:23 PM
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Not My Premier
Helmet law wont matter once the NDP ban ATV's from public land anyway.
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