Trump doomed

[Mangosteen]

Wiki leaks has already released ten thousand emails from the Clinton end. More to come in the next days may really have a huge effect. Who would you rather believe: Wikileaks or Hilliary and the mainstream media like CNN and CBC

Typical how CNN just keeps on ramming the people with propaganda to deflect the released emails. Very dirty election and really goes to show how corrupt and controlled the media is that is mainstream.

Has Wikileaks ever lied? Hope the other Americans couch potatoes who live for TV at night wake up soon.

It's all like Hollywood. Think of all those Hollywood producers examining all the new starlets flowing into to town! You never hear about that on CNN. Why ? Because it's all about the tribe you come from and how they protect each other from the same tribe. Yes tribes should not exist but they sure do. If your not born into a certain tribe you are not privileged in the world. Very simple.

If Hilliary wins the mainstream media has achieved their objective. Pretty well like the Bolsheviks in Russia with their grip on propaganda and then later the people paid dearly for it. Amazing how two percent of the population controls the masses. Simply amazing how naive !

[Bushrat]

Originally Posted by avb3

I don't. I don't know about you, but I lived through the Cuban missile crisis... I know what that was like. I don't ever want myself, my kids or my grandkids to have that understanding of fear.

I lived through he Cuban Missile crisis just like everybody else did too. The only crisis was the political posturing and Media blowing it out of proportion. If you are afraid Putin or Trump are going to go to nuclear war then you better go run and hide. How stupid and suicidal do you think these people are? They may be crazy but they are not stupid, the media is are fear mongering and manipulating as usual. Now if a bunch of muslim terrorists had nuclear capability it 'might' be something to worry about but even they don't want to destroy their Promised land and culture for all time. Sure some Muslims are suicidal and will strap bombs to themselves but the ones orchestrating this terrorism are cowards and as scared of nuclear war as we are. Besides if they do blow up the world, who cares, mother nature is gonna destroy us sooner or later anyway. Maw Nature will soon get tired of billions of annoying smelly human bacteria crawling all over her..

[jungleboy]

[fitzy]

Originally Posted by stringer

Trump has had 3 rally's in Tampa
All have had 0ver 10,000 people attend
You stated that the rally you attended had less than 1,000 attendees
So I'll say it again
You either missed 0 in your original claim
Or your lying
Which is it ?

I remember the thread about the rally when it was started. Avb3 talked about the small venue. I have no trouble believing him at all. Why are you so dead set against him being right?
Says right there in the news article there was a 1000 people there.

This is a character moment right here Stringer, there's nothing wrong with being wrong and apologizing.

[stringer]

Originally Posted by fitzy

I remember the thread about the rally when it was started. Avb3 talked about the small venue. I have no trouble believing him at all. Why are you so dead set against him being right?
Says right there in the news article there was a 1000 people there.

This is a character moment right here Stringer, there's nothing wrong with being wrong and apologizing.

Maybe he should have been truthful and stated he attended a Trump Town Hall instead of a rally.
There is a big difference in that it projects a false narrative , you know that right ?
That their shows a lot of character

[jkav]

[fitzy]

Originally Posted by stringer

Maybe he should have been truthful and stated he attended a Trump Town Hall instead of a rally.
There is a big difference in that it projects a false narrative , you know that right ?
That their shows a lot of character

Lol that there is a matter of using the wrong word. It can happen to anyone. No need to get your knickers in a knot.

[stringer]

Originally Posted by avb3

Did you actually read the news article from the date I posted, which coincides EXACTLY with my original report?

Stringer, read the second paragraph. Here, I'll copy and paste if for you so in case your lazy, you won't have to check the link.

Even with a venue and crowd one-tenth as big as his last Tampa Bay event, the Republican front-runner still produced some surprises, including an endorsement from Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi and appearances by Sarah Palin and Chris Christie. But after a weekend filled with debate and finger-pointing about disturbances and the hyper-charged atmosphere at his massive rallies, Trump's campaign booked him in a Tampa Convention Center breakout room that fit just about 1,000 people.

Just in case you still think I am making this up, here is the link.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politic...sement/2269314

Are you going to be a man and apologize? I don't lie. I might make mistakes, and I certainly disagree with much of the group think that goes on around here, but I don't lie.

Are you going to be a man and apologize?

Well???

P.S. The news article calls it a rally.

I didn't say that you were making anything up just stating that you stated that you attended a Trump rally
According to the official Trump web sight they had 3 rallies in Tampa with over 11,000 attendees and one town hall with 1,100
You stated that you were at a rally with less than 1,000 attendees,that in itself is misleading.stating that you were at a rally when in fact you were at a town hall is also misleading.
I asked you if you had left out 0
OR I'll say it again OR you are lying.
I never stated that you were lying
Only after you refused to correct yourself I stated that you were lying because none of the rallies in tamp had less than 11,000 people.
As for the media saying it was a rally doesn't make it so.

[fitzy]

Question answered.

[avb3]

Originally Posted by fitzy

Question answered.

It was. Most people are honourable, some aren't.

[jkav]

Stringer, for your own sake:

Stop digging. And look up the word "rally" in a dictionary.

[stringer]

Originally Posted by jkav

Stringer, for your own sake:

Stop digging. And look up the word "rally" in a dictionary.

If your not aware there is a difference between a rally and a town hall meeting.

[Headdamage]

[jkav]

Originally Posted by stringer

If your not aware there is a difference between a rally and a town hall meeting.

Lol. There's also a difference between "your" and "you're".

By all accounts, the meeting avb3 went to is accurately described as a "Trump rally", even if it's smaller than other events he held in Florida.

Carry on.

[Crankbait]

ok,

Jeffrey Epstein and a snip from his Wikipedia page;

Solicitation of prostitution[edit]

In March 2005, a woman contacted Palm Beach police and alleged her 14-year-old daughter had been taken to Jeffrey Epstein's mansion by an older girl and paid $300 after stripping and massaging him.[11] She had undressed, but left on her underwear.[20]

Police started an 11-month undercover investigation of Epstein, followed by a search of his home. Subsequently, they alleged that Epstein had paid several escorts to perform sexual acts on him. Interviews with five alleged victims and seventeen witnesses under oath, a high-school transcript and other items they found in Epstein's trash and home allegedly showed that some girls were under 18.[21] A search of Epstein's home found large numbers of photos of girls throughout the house, some of whom had been interviewed earlier by the police.[20] Papers filed in 2006 state that Epstein installed concealed cameras in numerous places in his property to record the rape of sexually trafficked minors by prominent people for criminal purposes such as blackmail.[22]

Epstein had set up a system of young women recruiting other women for his massage services.[11] Two housekeepers stated to the police that Epstein would receive "massages" every day whenever he stayed in Palm Beach.[20] In May 2006, Palm Beach police filed a probable cause affidavit saying that Epstein should be charged with four counts of unlawful sex with minors and one molestation count.[20] His team of lawyers included Gerald Lefcourt, Alan Dershowitz and later Ken Starr.[11] Epstein passed a lie detector test in which he was asked whether he knew of the underage status of the girls—although lie detector tests are generally not admissible in a court of law.[23][24]

Instead of following police recommendation, the prosecutors considered the evidence weak[23] and presented it to a grand jury. Former chief of Palm Beach police Michael Reiter later wrote to State Attorney Barry Krischer to complain of the state's "highly unusual" conduct and asked him to remove himself from the case.[11] The grand jury returned only a single charge of felony solicitation of prostitution,[25] to which Epstein pleaded not guilty in August 2006.[26]

In June 2008, after pleading guilty to a single state charge of soliciting prostitution from girls as young as 14,[27] Epstein began serving an 18-month sentence. He served 13 months, and upon release became a registered sex offender.[3][28] There is widespread controversy and suspicion that Epstein got off lightly.[29]

After the accusations became public, several parties returned donations they had received from Epstein, including Eliot Spitzer, Bill Richardson,[12] and the Palm Beach Police Department.[21] Harvard announced that it would not return any money.[12] A range of charitable donations Epstein had made financing children's education were also brought into question.[27]

On June 18, 2010, Epstein's former butler, Alfredo Rodriguez, was sentenced to 18 months in jail for trying to sell a journal that he said recorded Epstein's activities. FBI Special Agent Christina Pryor reviewed the material and agreed it was information "that would have been extremely useful in investigating and prosecuting the case, including names and contact information of material witnesses and additional victims."[30][31] Epstein allegedly lent girls to powerful people to ingratiate himself with them and also to get possible blackmail information.[29]

Virginia Roberts[edit]

In January 2015, a 31-year-old American woman, Virginia Roberts, alleged in a sworn affidavit that at the age of 17, she had been employed by Epstein as a sex slave and he trafficked her to several people, including Prince Andrew and Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz. She claimed that Epstein and others had physically and sexually abused her.[32]

She alleged that the FBI may have been involved in a cover-up.[33] Roberts said she served as Epstein's sex slave from 1999 to 2002, recruiting other girls.[34] Prince Andrew, Epstein and Dershowitz all deny having sex with Roberts, and Dershowitz is taking legal action over the allegations.[35][36][37] A diary purported to belong to Roberts was published online

ANONYMOUS are apparently going to release a tape next week with Bill Clinton having sex with a 13 year old.

an article from Vice News
https://news.vice.com/article/the-sa...n-bill-clinton

[stringer]

Originally Posted by jkav

Lol. There's also a difference between "your" and "you're".

By all accounts, the meeting avb3 went to is accurately described as a "Trump rally", even if it's smaller than other events he held in Florida.

Carry on.

According to this it was a town hall
Comparing a Trump town hall to a Trump rally would be like saying that I went to a rock concert at the local pub last night .they had a band there so it must have been a rock concert..
http://www.tampabay.com/news/politic...-tampa/2269269

[fitzy]

You're working hard Stringer but I don't know if anybody is buying. I for one have made my decision.

[jkav]

Originally Posted by stringer

According to this it was a town hall
Comparing a Trump town hall to a Trump rally would be like saying that I went to a rock concert at the local pub last night .they had a band there so it must have been a rock concert..
http://www.tampabay.com/news/politic...-tampa/2269269

*Sigh*

Here is the definition of the word "rally" (noun) from the Oxford English dictionary:

"A mass meeting of people making a political protest or showing support for a cause."

The definition is very broad, and clearly describes what avb3 attended.

[jungleboy]

Take solace in in the fact that The venue for the town hall"rally" had a capacity of around a 1000 and it had that many there . so we can call it a sold out event and everyone wins. except for the citizens in his election . nobody will win in the end.

[ak-71]

There was a show on Netflix, called "Scandal" - starts OK, then gets boring and crazy fast, but it is basically about Washington politics and at some point during presidential elections they realize that not only everyone running has some kind of skeleton in the closet, but every one of them running recently murdered somebody all by himself.
Doesn't seem that crazy anymore

[catnthehat]

Keep to the topic at hand which is whether Trump will get in or not , instead of calling other members liars or trying to argue the difference between a rally and a town hall meeting or to question other members' intelligence ,
Cat

[Sundancefisher]

While one may pick sides this election may swing wildly in the lead up to voting depending upon the severity of allegations and improprieties observed.

Not only are people seemingly voting for the best of the worst...if one side is so dismayed and don't show up to vote the tide may turn against the majority as a result.

It is both a troubling and interesting election for Canadians to observe.

Right now the tide is against Trump. He risk protest votes by his very nature.

I shake my head yet refuse to turn away.

I struggle with who winning is better for Alberta. Right now I am slightly hoping Trump wins.

Cat. Does that meet your goal?

[ak-71]

Originally Posted by Sundancefisher

While one may pick sides this election may swing wildly in the lead up to voting depending upon the severity of allegations and improprieties observed.

Not only are people seemingly voting for the best of the worst...if one side is so dismayed and don't show up to vote the tide may turn against the majority as a result.

It is both a troubling and interesting election for Canadians to observe.

Right now the tide is against Trump. He risk protest votes by his very nature.

I shake my head yet refuse to turn away.

I struggle with who winning is better for Alberta. Right now I am slightly hoping Trump wins.

Cat. Does that meet your goal?

Just watched some CNN clips - he is done, journalists and Hillary supporters are just so happy they can have something to sink their teeth in, nothing will stop it, it's just a feeding frenzy now. They already coined some standard phrases which stretch reality at best, and just keep going in circles.
I guess now Hillary can shoot somebody in the middle of the 5th ave and nobody would notice, as Trump once said.
Oh well, not my country

[jungleboy]

Originally Posted by ak-71

Just watched some CNN clips - he is done, journalists and Hillary supporters are just so happy they can have something to sink their teeth in, nothing will stop it, it's just a feeding frenzy now. They already coined some standard phrases which stretch reality at best, and just keep going in circles.
I guess now Hillary can shoot somebody in the middle of the 5th ave and nobody would notice, as Trump once said.
Oh well, not my country

CNN the Clinton News Network

One thing that may come out of this election is the cementing in peoples minds that the media is completely biased and easily bought which means they will have little credibility or influence (hopefully) in future elections

[Unregistered user]

Just like it is here. Lieberals are supposed to run Canada and the media makes sure of it. Hell even our flag's colours are lieberal by design. It's a crooked game and Trump is calling them on it. I hope the American voter is smart enough to see through the lies and do what is right.

[Sundancefisher]

Both sides need to over emphasize and exaggerate anything bad.

Lots of time left. Last two weeks is key. Last week is critical.

[avb3]

Originally Posted by Sundancefisher

Both sides need to over emphasize and exaggerate anything bad.

Lots of time left. Last two weeks is key. Last week is critical.

Very few 'undecided' left. What is more important is where Trump's support lie, and where Clinton's does. It doesn't matter he gets 100% of the votes in Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama or even in Texas, combined, the reality is the popular vote does not win elections; the electoral college does.

From the perspective, Trump is not even close to making it over the 270 EC votes. Clinton's map to the Whitehouse has a lot more ways to get there than Trump does.

He will not make it. In fact, by nominating Trump, the GOP guaranteed that Clinton would win. Big mistake, and it might blow up the party.

[Sundancefisher]

Originally Posted by avb3

Very few 'undecided' left. What is more important is where Trump's support lie, and where Clinton's does. It doesn't matter he gets 100% of the votes in Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama or even in Texas, combined, the reality is the popular vote does not win elections; the electoral college does.

From the perspective, Trump is not even close to making it over the 270 EC votes. Clinton's map to the Whitehouse has a lot more ways to get there than Trump does.

He will not make it. In fact, by nominating Trump, the GOP guaranteed that Clinton would win. Big mistake, and it might blow up the party.

The undecided crowd is often flighty. They would move without question if for instance a worse story or problem arose about Clinton.

At the same time I am wondering if he is just toying with the GOP and intentionally destroying the party.

If he cared...seeing the news could he not quit and have someone else step in?

[dawei88]

Voting is gonna be rigged, Trump don't have much chance.

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[dawei88]

US Dem are copying the way which how Chinese communist party ruling China. Pointed leader, no media, just propaganda machine, rigged voting process...

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