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Old 05-06-2015, 03:24 PM
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Better Education
Better Healthcare
Compassion and Respect for our Seniors
Co-operation with Companies to implement new jobs
Corporate Welfare will disappear
AHS waste will be trimmed
More long term beds
Restore Apprentice program
I believe they will do what they said they would do, and in four years if they don't, then I am sure the WR will get a chance to strut their stuff
I'm really curious how you think the government is responsible for teaching morals and compassion. Parent teach their kids that grandparent are a inconvenience when they need to be cared for, then they are surprised what they get thrown into a old age home and forgot when they get old.

This is a parental issue not a god dam political one.
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Old 05-06-2015, 03:25 PM
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It will affect everyone. If every corporation suddenly has less profit, they'll have to raise their rates to make up for it. Now everything is more expensive.
There seems to be an attitude that a corporate tax increase will just mean a few millionaires will have to buy one less pair of solid gold pants a year. I run my own business, and I'm doing it to make a living for me and my family. If it costs me more to run my business, I'll have to make it up somewhere. And that's going to be on your next bill. Everyone's next bill, no matter who they voted for.
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Old 05-06-2015, 03:44 PM
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It will affect everyone. If every corporation suddenly has less profit, they'll have to raise their rates to make up for it. Now everything is more expensive.
There seems to be an attitude that a corporate tax increase will just mean a few millionaires will have to buy one less pair of solid gold pants a year. I run my own business, and I'm doing it to make a living for me and my family. If it costs me more to run my business, I'll have to make it up somewhere. And that's going to be on your next bill. Everyone's next bill, no matter who they voted for.
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Most of the NDP support i see on my facebook comes from 9 to 5'ers in dead end jobs that live cheque to cheque or those in the health/education sector. Same people that bought the PC cow last go round. Business owners and those who earned a piece of paper to qualify them for a CAREER are all burying their wallets as we speak. This is not good. A PC majority would have been better. Yes i have been paying attention

I wish i could say i was surprised but im not. I see these young kids that got elected and know that people didnt even take the time to research who it was they elected in their riding. They just voted orange. Zero foresight.

I dont like sitting next to a 20 something at a movie theatre. Some of you voted them into office! Kids in skinny jeans that aint never used a crescent wrench running a province. Alberta none the less. Disgusting.

Hang on to your hats Alberta. You wanted change, I have a feeling you are going to get some big change.

OP asked for good the NDP will bring?

Maybe a drastic reduction in population and us being able to keep a walleye without a tag?
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Old 05-06-2015, 03:53 PM
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Most of the NDP support i see on my facebook comes from 9 to 5'ers in dead end jobs that live cheque to cheque or those in the health/education sector. Same people that bought the PC cow last go round. Business owners and those who earned a piece of paper to qualify them for a CAREER are all burying their wallets as we speak. This is not good. A PC majority would have been better. Yes i have been paying attention

I wish i could say i was surprised but im not. I see these young kids that got elected and know that people didnt even take the time to research who it was they elected in their riding. They just voted orange. Zero foresight.

I dont like sitting next to a 20 something at a movie theatre. Some of you voted them into office! Kids in skinny jeans that aint never used a crescent wrench running a province. Alberta none the less. Disgusting.

Hang on to your hats Alberta. You wanted change, I have a feeling you are going to get some big change.

OP asked for good the NDP will bring?

Maybe a drastic reduction in population and us being able to keep a walleye without a tag?
Crescent Wrench eh. you have high expectation of today kids. If you really want to see what they know ask for a sky hook or a Robertson #2
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Old 05-06-2015, 04:58 PM
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I'll take a guess as much as anyone here.

They want to shorten how long coal mines are open and used as power generation plants,
So, I'm guessing higher electrical prices and maybe nuke power.
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Old 05-06-2015, 05:28 PM
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I'll take a guess as much as anyone here.

They want to shorten how long coal mines are open and used as power generation plants,
So, I'm guessing higher electrical prices and maybe nuke power.
they will find out very quickly that our location/environment is unsuitable and not cost effective for renewable energies for either solar (days are not long enough, winter is half the year) and wind power (way to expensive vs the power it generates)

unfortantaly, coal is the only thing cost effective vs the energy it creates for us
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Old 05-06-2015, 05:31 PM
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I'm really curious how you think the government is responsible for teaching morals and compassion. Parent teach their kids that grandparent are a inconvenience when they need to be cared for, then they are surprised what they get thrown into a old age home and forgot when they get old.

This is a parental issue not a god dam political one.
Where did he say teaching? He said (and YOU boldfaced) "Compassion and Respect for Seniors". A government can most definitely demonstrate or not demonstrate that.
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Old 05-06-2015, 05:33 PM
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Now maybe the school system can spend more time teaching core subjects and less time spreading socialist ideals.
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Old 05-06-2015, 05:37 PM
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Better Education
Better Healthcare
Compassion and Respect for our Seniors
Co-operation with Companies to implement new jobs
Corporate Welfare will disappear
AHS waste will be trimmed
More long term beds
Restore Apprentice program
I believe they will do what they said they would do, and in four years if they don't, then I am sure the WR will get a chance to strut their stuff
Yup. Everything is available to buy with taxes from your pocket or debt from your kids pocket and will smoothly occur now without your say so. At least for 4 more years.
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Old 05-06-2015, 05:41 PM
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Hopefully an end to PC entitlement and corporate greed.
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Corporate greed is so firmly entrenched that its almost an official religion.



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Old 05-06-2015, 06:50 PM
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How about we give them a chance to even get started before we attack them for fing up?

On topic... hopefully a bit more corporate responsibility towards the environment. Also improvements in education and health care policies.

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Old 05-07-2015, 11:31 AM
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Where did he say teaching? He said (and YOU boldfaced) "Compassion and Respect for Seniors". A government can most definitely demonstrate or not demonstrate that.

Please do enlighten me as to how a government should show compassion and respect for Seniors? By not screwing them as hard as everyone else? investing in more senior homes? Why is it that every other culture respects their elder and we throw them in old age homes. If we don't have enough compassion and respect of our senior please, why is it the government responsibility?

Its our responsibility to teach our kids and look after our elders. Their is a scary idea people have to put others before themselves.
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Old 05-07-2015, 11:42 AM
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Probably a bit. The easiest way for her to balance the books is to give Alberta a sales tax and then add a carbon tax.
As she has a good solid majority there is absolutely no way to stop her.
Yep! I just hope she does not set the PST at 11%!
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Old 05-07-2015, 11:55 AM
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Please do enlighten me as to how a government should show compassion and respect for Seniors? By not screwing them as hard as everyone else? investing in more senior homes? Why is it that every other culture respects their elder and we throw them in old age homes. If we don't have enough compassion and respect of our senior please, why is it the government responsibility?

Its our responsibility to teach our kids and look after our elders. Their is a scary idea people have to put others before themselves.

Alright, so you don't believe government shoud be concerned about or do anything for seniors. No medical care, help with housing, no old age pension, etc. Families should care for their parents exclusively and if a person has no family they can.... what, die? I just don't agree with you, and most people here don't either.
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Old 05-07-2015, 11:58 AM
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so what I don't get is the Albertans got what they asked and voted for
they got NDP
Albertans were the ones voting
why are they whining so much ???
be careful of what you ask for you might just get it
looks good on them

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Old 05-07-2015, 12:05 PM
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Don't forget Margaret Thatcher's great line ...

"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money."
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Old 05-07-2015, 12:12 PM
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so what I don't get is the Albertans got what they asked nd voted for
they got NDP they were the ones voting
why are they whining so much ??
be careful of what you ask for you might just get it
looks good on them
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Old 05-07-2015, 12:22 PM
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Alright, so you don't believe government shoud be concerned about or do anything for seniors. No medical care, help with housing, no old age pension, etc. Families should care for their parents exclusively and if a person has no family they can.... what, die? I just don't agree with you, and most people here don't either.
And that is the problem.

Why is medical care age dependent? Ya senior get sick more often and need more care, why treat them differently? Or is it you don't care enough to help?

Old age pension is everyone issue or are you not gone get old?

As for housing I'll just refer you to my previous post. "Why should i bother taking care of them"?

For those unfortunate enough to have lost their whole family. They do need our help, but if you don't want to help your own family you trust the government to do it?

It scary to think we cant be bothered to care for our elders.
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Old 05-07-2015, 01:27 PM
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Old 05-07-2015, 01:31 PM
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Old age pension is everyone issue or are you not gone get old?

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You lost me. You have been saying government shouldn't do anything for seniors, that they should not be in the business of caring for them. How is it now "everyone's issue"? Cut off old age pension, cancel it. Families should take care of their old, not government. Isn't that what you have been saying?????
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Old 05-07-2015, 01:37 PM
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Old 05-07-2015, 01:39 PM
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How about we give them a chance to even get started before we attack them for fing up?

On topic... hopefully a bit more corporate responsibility towards the environment. Also improvements in education and health care policies.
They have already screwed up. They failed to vet their candidates. They presented the campaign as "Notley's campaign." They left the names of the riding candidates in a conscious attempt to mislead. So much for integrity.

How's the market doing?
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Old 05-07-2015, 01:43 PM
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Everyone talks about seniors, but there is a more vulnerable group in society, children, especially those that have been taken out of their homes into government care. Maybe with an NDP government, we may see more funding for this issue, higher wages for those that take care of them (not talking Foster Parents) and work with them, etc. I also think that if special needs kids are put into classrooms with non-special needs kids, there HAS to be an aide there to assist the child, not just the teacher, otherwise all the other kids' education suffers. I'm not a socialist, but in my opinion, children get largely ignored in our society because everyone is too worried about themselves but these kids cannot speak for themselves.
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hey you guys think Ms Drever will wear that Pabst box on her head when she's back benchin??? that would be sweet.
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Old 05-07-2015, 01:45 PM
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hey you guys think Ms Drever will wear that Pabst box on her head when she's back benchin??? that would be sweet.
She wouldn't be the first member of that august body to hit the bottle and do something stupid, now would she? And at least she can blame youth.
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Old 05-07-2015, 01:48 PM
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She'll blame someone. She sure won't take responsibility for her actions. BTW she's already played the "I was young" card.
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Old 05-07-2015, 01:55 PM
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She'll blame someone. She sure won't take responsibility for her actions. BTW she's already played the "I was young" card.
Would it be more acceptable is she said "I was drunk", or "I have a drinking problem"?
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