Calling All Preppers!

[Sundancefisher]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/indust...103557775.html

Big business supported by preppers.

[Crankbait]

dont matter how much prepping youve done once these guys show up. they make your colon a super gun. could of learned so much from the natives.

Giardia lives inside the intestines of infected humans or other animals. Individuals become infected through ingesting or coming into contact with contaminated food, soil, or water. The Giardia parasite originates from contaminated items and surfaces that have been tainted by the feces of an infected carrier.

The symptoms of Giardia, which may begin to appear 2 days after infection, include violent diarrhea, excess gas, stomach or abdominal cramps, upset stomach, and nausea. Resulting dehydration and nutritional loss may need immediate treatment. The typical infection within an individual can be slight, resolve without treatment, and last between 2–6 weeks, although it can sometimes last longer and/or be more severe. Coexistence with the parasite is possible (symptoms fade), but one can remain a carrier and transmit it to others. Medication containing tinidazole or metronidazole decreases symptoms and time to resolution. Albendazole is also used, and has an anti-helmintic (anti-worm) property as well, ideal for certain compounded issues when a general vermicidal agent is preferred. Giardia causes a disease called Giardisis which affects the villi of the small intestine. Through time the villi of the small intestine are sloughed off and cause malabsorption in the intestine. This can cause in some severe cases of lactose intolerance. [8]

[Sundancefisher]

Originally Posted by Crankbait

dont matter how much prepping youve done once these guys show up. they make your colon a super gun. could of learned so much from the natives.

Giardia lives inside the intestines of infected humans or other animals. Individuals become infected through ingesting or coming into contact with contaminated food, soil, or water. The Giardia parasite originates from contaminated items and surfaces that have been tainted by the feces of an infected carrier.

The symptoms of Giardia, which may begin to appear 2 days after infection, include violent diarrhea, excess gas, stomach or abdominal cramps, upset stomach, and nausea. Resulting dehydration and nutritional loss may need immediate treatment. The typical infection within an individual can be slight, resolve without treatment, and last between 2–6 weeks, although it can sometimes last longer and/or be more severe. Coexistence with the parasite is possible (symptoms fade), but one can remain a carrier and transmit it to others. Medication containing tinidazole or metronidazole decreases symptoms and time to resolution. Albendazole is also used, and has an anti-helmintic (anti-worm) property as well, ideal for certain compounded issues when a general vermicidal agent is preferred. Giardia causes a disease called Giardisis which affects the villi of the small intestine. Through time the villi of the small intestine are sloughed off and cause malabsorption in the intestine. This can cause in some severe cases of lactose intolerance. [8]

Ummm. Doesn't boiling water fix that? Making fire is the least of a preppers concerns I would expect. Just don't boil the water in lead pots.

[Lili]

Originally Posted by thunderheart

whoda thunk a few months ago .. is it over? or quietly cooking

keep preparing ..we are running out of tomorrows
my new grand son makes me think harder

will anything like this happen?? lets hope not but stranger things have happened by ignorant people..just ask the japanese...
ok i am taking it all to the extreme the whole idea of the end to the end of the world as we know it..... but
and for those that will post in and call me crazy or call me down ... thank you and good luck to you and yours

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcJ_xGvnBdU

Your not crazy you are realistic and want to prepare and protect your family for the eventual socio-economic collapse which is in my view totally normal.

Some of you might be interest in reading James Wesley Rawles . (http://survivalblog.com/about/)

Most experts in the field of preparedness recommend to team up with other like-minded individuals and start preparing for the difficult socio-economic times ahead. We must learn from history because it seem to repeat itself.

[Crankbait]

Originally Posted by Sundancefisher

Ummm. Doesn't boiling water fix that? Making fire is the least of a preppers concerns I would expect. Just don't boil the water in lead pots.

yes, but when lots of grubby hands start touching everything and buddy wants his dog to run free and the latrine is overflowing and the watersource becomes infected and cooking utensils are improperly washed or stored and hygiene starts to slip, it becomes super gun colon time at camp prepper.

[Lili]

For information this might be of some interest to understand that it might have a socio economic collapse and people should prepare ( prepping).

Well known investor Jim Rogers, who made his fortune during the 1970′s crisis by investing in commodities like precious metals, has long-warned about the calamity faced by, not just America, but the world as a whole.

Rogers understands that we are living in perilous times, and that actions by governments, finance ministers and officials across the globe have left us on the brink of a very serious collapse that will end with currency turmoil, food shortages, panic, social unrest and a total shakedown of average citizens.

http://www.bioprepper.com/2014/05/18...for-the-hills/

[doetracks]

Thanks for getting this back on track, Lili

And thanks for that link.

[TomCanuck]

Originally Posted by Lili

For information this might be of some interest to understand that it might have a socio economic collapse and people should prepare ( prepping).

Well known investor Jim Rogers, who made his fortune during the 1970′s crisis by investing in commodities like precious metals, has long-warned about the calamity faced by, not just America, but the world as a whole.

Rogers understands that we are living in perilous times, and that actions by governments, finance ministers and officials across the globe have left us on the brink of a very serious collapse that will end with currency turmoil, food shortages, panic, social unrest and a total shakedown of average citizens.

http://www.bioprepper.com/2014/05/18...for-the-hills/

While a socio-economic crisis is not out of the question, the idea that it results in a complete collapse of the world as we know it is a bit of a stretch. People want peace, order, and good government... because it works. The idea that there would be a wide spread rejection or failure of this is weak.

[Lili]

Originally Posted by TomCanuck

While a socio-economic crisis is not out of the question, the idea that it results in a complete collapse of the world as we know it is a bit of a stretch. People want peace, order, and good government... because it works. The idea that there would be a wide spread rejection or failure of this is weak.

This is your opinion. But, Peter Shiff, John Williams, Jim Rogers, M Faber, Glenn Beck, A Jones, Ron Paul, Edward Griffin, Jim Westley Rawles, John Jacob Schmidt etc.... are all experts in economic and some in prepping don't think as you do.

In my opinion, we don't know how hard the collapse will be but one think we might be certain they will be one and people who are realistic might prepare for it and group with "like-minded" people.

I think, we must learn from history. Also, look at what is going on in the Western World.

You are saying: " People want peace, order, and good government... because it works." Please could you elaborate. In my opinion people want peace, order and good government but not by giving away our liberty/freedom to a totalitarian government .


Never forget :
"They who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. B Franklin"

"When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty. - Thomas Jefferson"

Best Regards.

[bison]

Originally Posted by TomCanuck

While a socio-economic crisis is not out of the question, the idea that it results in a complete collapse of the world as we know it is a bit of a stretch. People want peace, order, and good government... because it works. The idea that there would be a wide spread rejection or failure of this is weak.

Ya think.
There's hardly even peace in most families.

Order can only be held by the one holding a gun.

Good government is an oxymoron,..it does not exist

[TomCanuck]

Originally Posted by Lili

You are saying: " People want peace, order, and good government... because it works." Please could you elaborate. In my opinion people want peace, order and good government but not by giving away our liberty/freedom to a totalitarian government .

No offence, but I think the idea that the West is headed to a totalitarian state, is a bit of a conspiracy theory in my view. (black helicopters and re-education/work camps). Not that there aren't issues with Western governments (surveillance and shutting down of certain debate), I just don't see that the slope is that slippery.

As for POGG, people are social animals, because it provides a huge advantage over going it alone. There is strength in numbers... and cooperation. You only need look at life expectancies in developed vs. developing countries to see this.

Being self-reliant is good, but it will only take you so far.

[TomCanuck]

Originally Posted by bison

Good government is an oxymoron,..it does not exist

All things in moderation, moderation in all things.

The Middle Way is a Buddhist term with rich connotations. Most simply, it implies a balanced approach to life and the regulation of one's impulses and behavior, close to Aristotle's idea of the "golden mean" whereby "every virtue is a mean between two extremes, each of which is a vice."

Some government, is a good thing. None or too much, is not. If this idea is beyond you, then best of luck, you'll be of need of it.

[Sneeze]

Originally Posted by TomCanuck

Some government, is a good thing. None or too much, is not. If this idea is beyond you, then best of luck, you'll be of need of it.

What's the view like from up there?

You can be the best educated & informed person in the room - but if you can't respect the opinions and values of others and use every opportunity to belittle those with different opinions - you will always be ignorant.

In regards to the post -there is no such thing as good government, perhaps there is an argument for necessary government.

[TomCanuck]

Originally Posted by Sneeze

-there is no such thing as perfect government, there is an argument for necessary government.

Fixed it for you.