30-06 or 7mm-08 or ?

[32-40win]

If you want to handload eventually, split the difference and go 280Rem.

[6.5 shooter]

In order of preference:

6.5 anything, 6.5x55, 6.5 Creed, 260 the list goes on...
7mm-08
.308
30-06

[roboelmo]

I picked up a 7mm-08 as my first rifle, mainly shooting deer and moose. These were the reasons why I chose 7mm-08 over the other ones.

7mm-08 compared to 30.06: bigger bullet, will help take down moose
7mm-08 compared to 6.5: 6.5 would be awesome as a dedicated deer rilfe, if you also have moose rifle.
7mm-08 compared to 7mmRemMag: Less recoil for 7mm-08 and the 7mmRemMag would cause a bit too much damage to the poor little deer.

Once I got my 7mm-08, the biggest negative I noticed is you are very limited to factory ammo options. Most stores only carry 4-5 ammo options for 7mm-08.

[Mountainaccent]

Originally Posted by roboelmo

I picked up a 7mm-08 as my first rifle, mainly shooting deer and moose. These were the reasons why I chose 7mm-08 over the other ones.

7mm-08 compared to 30.06: bigger bullet, will help take down moose
7mm-08 compared to 6.5: 6.5 would be awesome as a dedicated deer rilfe, if you also have moose rifle.
7mm-08 compared to 7mmRemMag: Less recoil for 7mm-08 and the 7mmRemMag would cause a bit too much damage to the poor little deer.

Once I got my 7mm-08, the biggest negative I noticed is you are very limited to factory ammo options. Most stores only carry 4-5 ammo options for 7mm-08.

Ugh 7mm08 is a 284 and 3006 is a 308 so you are incorrect 7mm08 is smaller and 7mm rem unless you have shot something with one shouldn’t comment about it I’ve seen dozens of animals shot from deer to moose and not any more damage from a well placed bullet then anything I’ve deen

[Bushleague]

Originally Posted by Coiloil37

That’s easily disproved if that’s the whole statement. It’s all boils down to which load your shooting in either rifle. Drop is a product of velocity and time, for us it boils down to initial velocity and BC.

The .270 shoots a 150 grain at the same velocity as a 30-06 shoots a 180
The .270 shoots a 140 the same as a ‘06 shoots a 165
A 130 grain from a 24” barreled .270 gives you about 3150 FPS. My 24” barreled 30-06 spits a 130 Barnes at 3430 FPS.


So real world, a ‘06 with a 165 grain at 3k FPS drops less then a .270 shooting a 150 grain at 2850 FPS. However you could say a 130 from your .270 drops less then a 180 from my 30-06.

Most .270’s are sporting a 22” barrel and those numbers change significantly. I’ve owned and loaded for both and the 22” barreled .270 doesn’t keep up with those numbers.


OP.

Between your two choices, if your not recoil sensitive I would suggest the 30-06.

I don't reload, or own a chronograph... but my .270 shoots factory 150's flatter than my 30-06 shoots factory 180 grain loads of the same brand. The terminal performance of both bullets is similar, if anything I'd say that penetration wise I feel the .270 150's actually do a little better, all things equal. Personally I don't care what the OP chooses, but I prefer the .270 by a small margin.

[spoiledsaskhunter]

Originally Posted by Boomer 243

This is the most stupidest reply I have ever heard

sure hope i don't get into trouble for agreeing with you

[Bushleague]

Originally Posted by spoiledsaskhunter

sure hope i don't get into trouble for agreeing with you

Don't look now, but I think that response just got out-dumbed a couple posts back.

[CanadianEh]

Go 708 and dont look back. Easily knock down anything in Alberta that your legal to hunt.

[Oldan Grumpi]

Originally Posted by Boomer 243

This is the most stupidest reply I have ever heard

Yup.

...and (1) "Most stupidest" is the 'most stupidest' use of english that I've ever seen, and (2) you read it, you didn't 'hear' it, and (3) my mocking point was that endless and repetitious arguments about calibers are the 'most stupidest' arguments of all.

But by all means, you have yourself a nice foggy day.

[Kurt505]

Oh man I love a good ol’ ballistics battle thread. The question is always what’s better, then the pet cartridges come to the surface, and everyone says their favorite cartridge is the clear winner.

Here is the truth, and let the tears roll after reading.

If you want a short action, buy a short action.

If you want an odd six (full length) cartridge, buy an odd six size cartridge.

If you want a magnum cartridge buy a magnum cartridge.

If you want a short action magnum cartridge then buy a short action magnum cartridge.

Every single year, every single one of these cartridges are used to harvest animals across North America. Most important thing is, does the rifle fit you properly and can you shoot it accurately.

As for the question which cartridge is best, everyone knows the 280ai is the best cartridge ever developed so if you don’t want a 280ai the question should be what is the second best cartridge to buy? Then go buy a 280rem.

[Don_Parsons]

Originally Posted by bmj89

thank you to everyone for the feedback. It is greatly appreciated. Looks like i’ll be getting a tikka in 30-06.

👍

[wolf308]

Originally Posted by Oldan Grumpi

If you shoot a .270, after about ten rounds you start feeling kind of funny...by 20 rounds, you stop to pee and realize you've turned into a girl!

It takes a good 50 or 60 rounds of .30-06, or maybe about 10 rounds of .375 H&H before your 'boy bits' grow back.

A 7mm-08 is fine up until puberty; after that I think you could get in trouble for messing with underage guns or something....kind of like those 'wizzums' and 'Rums' and such. It just ain't natural.

Bahahahhahhah. Love it

[wolf308]

Originally Posted by Bushleague

I've never been able to tell the difference in terms of recoil between the .270win and the 30-06. I've also never seen any real difference on the other end, the animals die about same. The one thing that cant be disputed is that the .270 does shoot a bit flatter, for me its a non issue but if I anticipated 250-300 yard shots on a regular basis I'd be pretty inclined to favor the.270.

Come up to Ponoka some time and shoot my 270 then my father in laws 30-06 , see what ya think after ..... I can shoot his about 6 times before saying ! this

[270person]

Originally Posted by roboelmo

I picked up a 7mm-08 as my first rifle, mainly shooting deer and moose. These were the reasons why I chose 7mm-08 over the other ones.

7mm-08 compared to 30.06: bigger bullet, will help take down moose
7mm-08 compared to 6.5: 6.5 would be awesome as a dedicated deer rilfe, if you also have moose rifle.
7mm-08 compared to 7mmRemMag: Less recoil for 7mm-08 and the 7mmRemMag would cause a bit too much damage to the poor little deer.

Once I got my 7mm-08, the biggest negative I noticed is you are very limited to factory ammo options. Most stores only carry 4-5 ammo options for 7mm-08.

Might as well just post that you are new to rifles, bought without doing any research, and still haven't done any. I count 3 clear "swing and a miss battah battah."

[270person]

Originally Posted by Oldan Grumpi

If you shoot a .270, after about ten rounds you start feeling kind of funny...by 20 rounds, you stop to pee and realize you've turned into a girl!

It takes a good 50 or 60 rounds of .30-06, or maybe about 10 rounds of .375 H&H before your 'boy bits' grow back.

A 7mm-08 is fine up until puberty; after that I think you could get in trouble for messing with underage guns or something....kind of like those 'wizzums' and 'Rums' and such. It just ain't natural.

Cough. I would have said owning an odd 6 likely means you wear the same color clothes, beige, every day, pocket protector sales at Staples set your heart to racing, think there's only one ice cream flavor, Vanilla, and more than likely make your living as an accountant with the federal government.

Good chance you were extremely close to your grandfather as well.

Not that there's anything wrong with these things of course.

[Bushleague]

Originally Posted by wolf308

Come up to Ponoka some time and shoot my 270 then my father in laws 30-06 , see what ya think after ..... I can shoot his about 6 times before saying ! this

Yes, I have shot some 06's that kicked like mules. Infact I own a Husky lightweight that generates some pretty brutal recoil. Any time I have owned or shot a .270 and an 06 in similarly configured rifles however, I've never been able to feel much difference. Sometimes after an extended range session with the 06, involving 40 rounds or so, the next day I might notice my shoulder is more tender than if I had shot the .270, but at the time of the shots being fired I cant feel it.

[EZM]

I love the Tikka rifles - but they sure seem to kick a lot harder with an intermediate cartridge like a 30-06 compared to other rifles I've shot.

The bottom line is, if you can shoot 20-30 rounds off the bench in a Tikka in a 06' without beginning to twitch then the 06' would be my choice.

[Coiloil37]

Originally Posted by Bushleague

Yes, I have shot some 06's that kicked like mules. Infact I own a Husky lightweight that generates some pretty brutal recoil. Any time I have owned or shot a .270 and an 06 in similarly configured rifles however, I've never been able to feel much difference. Sometimes after an extended range session with the 06, involving 40 rounds or so, the next day I might notice my shoulder is more tender than if I had shot the .270, but at the time of the shots being fired I cant feel it.

I agree. I can’t feel any difference between the two. My shoulder doesn’t bleed once a month either so that might be why.

For the rest of you, what’s an odd six? I know what an aught six is... never heard of anyone who knew what they were talking about speak of an odd six.

[wmd]

30-06 is boring

[Kurt505]

Originally Posted by Coiloil37

I agree. I can’t feel any difference between the two. My shoulder doesn’t bleed once a month either so that might be why.

For the rest of you, what’s an odd six? I know what an aught six is... never heard of anyone who knew what they were talking about speak of an odd six.

What is an aught six?

Since you know it all, can you tell me all about it? I’ll let you know if you’re as smart as you figure.

[Xbolt7mm]

Originally Posted by Kurt505

Oh man I love a good ol’ ballistics battle thread. The question is always what’s better, then the pet cartridges come to the surface, and everyone says their favorite cartridge is the clear winner.

Here is the truth, and let the tears roll after reading.

If you want a short action, buy a short action.

If you want an odd six (full length) cartridge, buy an odd six size cartridge.

If you want a magnum cartridge buy a magnum cartridge.

If you want a short action magnum cartridge then buy a short action magnum cartridge.

Every single year, every single one of these cartridges are used to harvest animals across North America. Most important thing is, does the rifle fit you properly and can you shoot it accurately.

As for the question which cartridge is best, everyone knows the 280ai is the best cartridge ever developed so if you don’t want a 280ai the question should be what is the second best cartridge to buy? Then go buy a 280rem.

What about the 28 nosler, its part of that family

[Xbolt7mm]

Originally Posted by 270person

Consider the 7mm. Same recoil as 30-06. More gun imo. Your mileage may vary.

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[heretohunt]

Originally Posted by wmd

30-06 is boring

Yes. Wonderfully boring. This is why I’m going to get my 3006 re barrelled to...
3006
The short answer to the op’s question is that you can buy and use either and if you are unsuccessful it won’t be because of the cartridge.

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by Xbolt7mm

???

Go outside and shoot them. It helps with the questions.

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by Bmj89

Thank you to everyone for the feedback. It is greatly appreciated. Looks like I’ll be getting a Tikka in 30-06.

[Coiloil37]

Originally Posted by Kurt505

What is an aught six?

Since you know it all, can you tell me all about it? I’ll let you know if you’re as smart as you figure.

One faux pas and you go straight in the gutter? I’ve been around long enough to recognize amateur trolling when it’s presented to me.
It’s laughable your narcissism would let you believe I would bite on bait regarding your validation of my intelligence.

It’s a simple thing, try and be accurate with our speech, if someone corrects us we could attempt to take it in stride. I don’t talk about your beloved .280 Winchester do I? Because it’s not correct and I respect that.

[REMINGTON JIM]

Tikka T3X Syn SS in 30-06 - Install a 3.5 -10 Leupold VX111 I with a B&C reticle in Talley LW rings and you will have a Nearly Perfect all around Hunting rig - Hope fully it will shoot a 165-168 gr bullet well and your off HUNTING ! jmo RJ

[1899b]

When it comes to the sport of hunting and shooting it’s obvious that’s its very hard to not bring up an internet conversation or debate that hasn’t been beaten to death already since we all got online over 20 years ago...

[REMINGTON JIM]

Originally Posted by 1899b

When it comes to the sport of hunting and shooting it’s obvious that’s its very hard to not bring up an internet conversation or debate that hasn’t been beaten to death already since we all got online over 20 years ago...

Apparently its NOT all that BAD as your still reading and commenting ! RJ

[Xbolt7mm]

Originally Posted by chuck

Go outside and shoot them. It helps with the questions.

So,,,go research every thread that starts off with I need to buy a rifle for my son, daughter, wife etc. Need a lower recoiling rifle, what do you guys suggest?

Every single one of you guys says 243, 6mm, 7mm-08, no one ever suggests a 30-06. Now i have never shot a 7mm-08 but have held a few in my hands is all. That being said Charlie, I f I had one of each then there would be no question marks now would there? I merely remember all the sound advise all you people have given in the past and if the 7mm-08 recoiled the same as a 30-06 one would think you guys would have suggested the 30-06 as a choice for a low recoil cartridge for the smaller to younger shooter, please hit search cuz i cant find a thread stating that, but search for the 7mm-08 and see how many times it comes up. That’s all im saying,,, just repeating what’s been the common responses in the past. Not saying its not capable