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Old 05-08-2008, 12:52 AM
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Default 100 gr bullets with a .264 Win Mag

Been doing some research and read that the 100gr bullets don't preform well in a .264 Win Mag. Just wondering if anyone had personal experience to confirm or deny this statement.
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Old 05-08-2008, 05:20 AM
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Been doing some research and read that the 100gr bullets don't preform well in a .264 Win Mag. Just wondering if anyone had personal experience to confirm or deny this statement.
Don't know where you read it, but it is not entirely true at all.
Maybe what the writers were reffering to was the high velocity versus the lighter jackets of some bullets, but if I were shotign a very light bullet in a 6.5 I would likely be shooting a varmint bullet anyway, unless it was a Barnes!

the Balliatic tips work well, and a 107 match King is super, as are the lighter Barnes bullets I have tried.
The one thing that you have to watch is bullets over 140 grains, mot because of the weight however ( this is a mismomer) but the LENGTH.
Many 264Win mags will not stabilize a longer bullet, and the heavier ones generallyare longer.
That being said, I have worked up loads on several 264's over the years using
140 grain barnes XLC's which is a very long bullet for its weight.All turned out well.
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Old 05-08-2008, 10:29 AM
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Thanks Cat, I am thinking of Loading some 100 gr nosler partitions for some deer hunting this year. Didn't think it would be a problem.
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Old 05-08-2008, 10:55 AM
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If the bullet has controlled expansion I see no problem with using the 100 grainers. A light jacketed bullet however would not be what I would prefer.

Again it will start the old debate... is it better throw big chunks of lead downrange that also cause huge recoil, or a small fast chunk of lead with little recoil.

When you look at the KE equation speed adds KE at an exponential rate whereas weight adds it on a linear rate. ...

But kinetic enerhy does not mean a thing if it is not acting in the right spot. whuch is where accuracy and penetration comes in..... 1000 ft/lbs of KE that does not get through shoulder blade (bullet fragements on impact) is not effective nor is 1000 ftlbs of KE transfered into ground behind animal after a pass through....(no expansion) whereas 300 ft lbs of KE transfered to vital organs is very effective......

Longer bullets have a better ballistic coefficient in general and better penetration... One of the most efficient accurate bullets of all time is very long and is lathe turned (.408 cheyenne).....
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Old 05-08-2008, 03:39 PM
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The only reason I would be using a lighter bullet would be for varmints, that is why I mentioned the lighter bullets - a lathe turned monolithic would not be applicable in this case.

140 grain seirra cup and core bullet have no problem smashing bone at .264 velocities, I've
proven it more thann a few times, and the Game King is sufficiantly accurate out to max distances that a soprter should be shot at IMO...
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Old 05-08-2008, 04:13 PM
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They are not bad in my 7 mag.
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Old 05-10-2008, 08:35 AM
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When the .264 first came out people were velocity crazy and just had to hotrod their .264's by using light bullets and MAX loads.Well the barrel steel of the day wasn't up to it and people let them overheat. Next thing you know you have throat errosion big time.Win went as far as putting SS barrels on some model 70's[Westerner?] Nowadays we have better barrels and hopefully more commonsense.I wouldn't try and make a gopher gun out of it shooting 100gr bullets unless you allow the barrel to cool a min between shots.With 100gr Partitions though it will elecrocute antelope and deer as far away as you can hit them.I am quite fond of this bore.............try 69gr H-4831/Win cases/3512fps/CCI250................use at own risk..........Harold OAL3.25"
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Old 05-10-2008, 09:42 AM
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Years ago I loaded up some 100 grain bullets for my .264. Can't find or recall the load but I did shoot one pronghorn buck with one. It looked like a hand grenade had gone off in his chest.

I have since just gone to 140 grain bullets for everything.
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A Partition shouldn't do that though?...............Harold
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Old 05-10-2008, 09:26 PM
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I load 100gr Sierra varminters, 100gr Nosler partition and 140gr Sierra SP in my 6.5x55 Swede. I get 5/8 groups with the partitions and 47gr H4350, 3/4" with 140gr Sierra's at 43.5gr H4350 and saving the best for last, 0.193" groups with the varmint bullets and 47.5gr H380. So in a nutshell, 6.5 (.264) can be surgically accurate with light bullets, you just need to find what your gun likes. Oh yeah, mine is a Ramington 700 Classis with a 1:8 twist barrel.
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Old 05-10-2008, 11:48 PM
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When the .264 first came out people were velocity crazy and just had to hotrod their .264's by using light bullets and MAX loads.Well the barrel steel of the day wasn't up to it and people let them overheat. Next thing you know you have throat errosion big time.Win went as far as putting SS barrels on some model 70's[Westerner?] Nowadays we have better barrels and hopefully more commonsense.I wouldn't try and make a gopher gun out of it shooting 100gr bullets unless you allow the barrel to cool a min between shots.With 100gr Partitions though it will elecrocute antelope and deer as far away as you can hit them.I am quite fond of this bore.............try 69gr H-4831/Win cases/3512fps/CCI250................use at own risk..........Harold OAL3.25"
I loaded some with 68gr of H-4831. Went up to 70 but blew a primer so I backed off and went with 68gr.
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Old 05-11-2008, 05:24 AM
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Every gun is different better safe than sorry.How was the accuracy? Harold
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Old 05-11-2008, 09:33 PM
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spent enough time sitting it in that didn't bother to try and get a good group with it still just over an inch. Next time out I will really see what it can do.
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