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07-02-2020, 10:40 AM
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3 Children Dead after Negligence with Tractor
So, I will preface this by saying that I distinctly recall riding in the tractor bucket on the farm, when I was a kid 45 or more years ago. But pretty sure we never piled 10 people in the bucket. And pretty sure alcohol was not involved (although I couldn't swear to that either...). Anyway, something went wrong, and 3 kids are dead and others injured. I guess farm safety still isn't a thing in some places. One has to wonder if Canada Day Celebration got carried away. Damn shame.
https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/three-ch...real-1.5007735
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07-02-2020, 10:58 AM
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Prayers for all on that deal. very sad.
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07-02-2020, 11:21 AM
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I couldn't even read the article.
I friend of mine had his 2 year old riding in the skidsteer with him, without a door.
He never got over it.
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07-02-2020, 11:30 AM
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sad....I was hoping that with the pandemic etc going on that things like this wouldn't happen....every freakin holiday etc seems to be a magnet for people getting injured or killed.
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07-02-2020, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 58thecat
sad....I was hoping that with the pandemic etc going on that things like this wouldn't happen....every freakin holiday etc seems to be a magnet for people getting injured or killed.
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I feel like isolation has made it worse.
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07-02-2020, 11:51 AM
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That was a hard read. Couldnt imagine losing my three year old to something so avoidable.
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07-02-2020, 01:07 PM
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Horrible tragedy
I don’t know more than what they said in the story, but I was feeding cows years ago when a hydraulic fitting broke.
That loader went from 6’ high to the dirt in the blink of an eye. I keep my distance from them ever since.
And have pulled lots of people out from walking underneath the bucket.
Things happen fast
Prayers to all involved.
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07-02-2020, 01:12 PM
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so sad, I feel for the families. I work on a farm and the things I see scare the crap out of me, even if they are farm kids they still break just as easy as a city kid. even in town I went a bit ballistic a week or so ago about a quad zooming along my ditch with a teenage driver and a little girl hanging on behind him, no safety equipment at all. then after i said a few not so nice words to them they were up and down the street behind me probably 5 or 6 of all sizes hanging off the quad again full speed. do what they want but I dont have to see it or deal with it, already had 3 young people I worked with die in accidents since I moved here Id rather not go thru that again thank you. RIP kids
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07-02-2020, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by walleyechaser
I feel like isolation has made it worse.
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You can't fix stupid.
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07-02-2020, 01:34 PM
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Exactly
Stupidity is a pandemic in itself.
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07-02-2020, 01:45 PM
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Exactly
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A total of 5 adults involved including driver and bucket riders, and I'm assuming it was their 6 children involved. If not a single one had small reservation about what was going on, that is kind of a Stupid Red Flag for sure. Especially if the driver had been drinking as was hinted at.
As a parent, if you are involved and its one or more of your kids that dies, how do you deal with that? I hate to say it, but whatever regret, remorse, inner torture they experience....was 100% avoidable. It's not like an asteroid came out of space and killed them. So much of what is termed 'accident' (and I used the word in my title, going to have to change that) isn't anywhere near an accident. It is negligence, stupidity, carelessness, ignorance, or a combination of the four.
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07-02-2020, 01:46 PM
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Super sad story, especially that it was 100% avoidable. You have to think that tractor was going just a bit too fast and hit a whoop in the road or someone in the cab hit the wrong lever. Out you go, only to be ran over. Horrible.
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07-02-2020, 01:48 PM
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Opps, double post.
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07-02-2020, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
A total of 5 adults involved including driver and bucket riders, and I'm assuming it was their 6 children involved. If not a single one had small reservation about what was going on, that is kind of a Stupid Red Flag for sure. Especially if the driver had been drinking as was hinted at.
As a parent, if you are involved and its one or more of your kids that dies, how do you deal with that? I hate to say it, but whatever regret, remorse, inner torture they experience....was 100% avoidable. It's not like an asteroid came out of space and killed them. So much of what is termed 'accident' (and I used the word in my title, going to have to change that) isn't anywhere near an accident. It is negligence, stupidity, carelessness, ignorance, or a combination of the four.
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Im betting one of those adults was thinking "i dunno about this", but went ahead and joined in.
Thats the problem. People are so friggin worried to offend someone, they fail in the absolute BASIC duties of an adult or parent......in short, they fail. Worse yet, they participate
Kids dont know any better. Adults fail. Thats why this crap happens
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07-02-2020, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by graham1
Horrible tragedy
I don’t know more than what they said in the story, but I was feeding cows years ago when a hydraulic fitting broke.
That loader went from 6’ high to the dirt in the blink of an eye. I keep my distance from them ever since.
And have pulled lots of people out from walking underneath the bucket.
Things happen fast
Prayers to all involved.
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In the late 1980’s I was on a construction site when I was 18 and a backhoe was doing some concrete demolition with a jackhammer attachment when one of his hydraulic hoses blew apart, the operator had the door open and he got doused pretty badly with hydraulic oil, particularly in his eyes.
I couldn’t read the article, news has been too unpleasant as it is lately.
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07-02-2020, 02:41 PM
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I've got PTSD just from reading that. Can't imagine the pain of the parents,people evolved or emergency workers coming to the scene.
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07-02-2020, 02:56 PM
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That's awful.
It's a stupid thing to be doing but I feel for all involved including the driver. This would have been a tough one for the first responders too. Tragic.
I've seen first hand how quickly things can go wrong with heavy machinery.
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07-02-2020, 02:56 PM
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Over 40 years in industry I’ve witnessed several tragic accidents and thier outcomes. Little compares to being responsible for a child’s death. My neighbours rolled thier travel trailer, loosing both thier sons. Life itself became a burden in thier anguish.
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07-02-2020, 03:42 PM
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According to the article, they also had firewood in the bucket....
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07-02-2020, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by kevinhits
According to the article, they also had firewood in the bucket....
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Yeah, I was thinking that with 4 adults, six children, and firewood, it had to be a big bucket, and that means a big machine. Things go wrong very quickly in the real world. Consequences of this are absolutely horrible.
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07-02-2020, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
Yeah, I was thinking that with 4 adults, six children, and firewood, it had to be a big bucket, and that means a big machine. Things go wrong very quickly in the real world. Consequences of this are absolutely horrible.
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I am thinking booze or not...How this could go that wrong where 2 adults are in critical condition and 3 children dead? Seems a little bizarre unless they rolled the tractor in a ditch possibly. I will wait patiently to hear how this plays out. Driver was arrested assuming he was like they said..."Booze could be involved"
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07-02-2020, 04:28 PM
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The event happened on a road where the speed limit was 70km
The tractor ran over some of the victims
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