Conservative Leadership Results

[markg]

To think that social conservatives are the boogey man is laughable. What have they conserved? Nothing

Its time to get past that CBC propaganda.

[Walleyedude]

Originally Posted by jungleboy

Your argument against O’Toole is weak at best. You say he is too old, yet you are endorsing Bernier who is 10 yrs older than O’Toole.
You dislike him because he is a “career” politician yet , your boy Bernier has been at it 6 years longer than O’Toole.( he’s just not very good at it)
You say Sloan was the only choice that would win all of Canada, yet we know his voiced opinions on lgbtq whatever and racist comments of the past would get him exactly nowhere with the media and he would most likely lead the CPC to the same sort of super success as the PPC in the last election.
You obviously haven’t thought this through.
I am starting to think you are actually a Trudeau minion in disguise.

X2 on this.

Sloan had about a 0.0001% chance of being the next leader of the CPC, and about a 0.000000000001% chance of being the next prime minister.

I'm not sure O'Toole is the answer either, but I think he was by far the best option of the 4 candidates that were willing to throw their hats into the ring. I do think he has a legitimate chance to be prime minister if he strikes the right balance of "fiscally conservative and socially liberal" that has already been mentioned. His speech pointing out that the Cons need to do more than point out Trudeau's flaws, they need to present their own plans and ideas, is 100% on the money.

Lewis needs to win a riding and become a high profile MP. That's best case scenario for her and the CPC.

McKay needs to win his riding, get on board with team O'Toole, and be a good soldier. He'll get a cherry cabinet position if he plays his cards right.

Sloan will be lucky to be a back bencher...

[HVA7mm]

While at first glance he may not look as youthful as "what's his name" (I can't even bear to type it, let alone say it), when pandering to the younger urban voters he can always don a fake hipster beard and roll up to the podium on a rented e-scooter. While in Quebec, maybe apply a fake fleur de lis neck tattoo, throw on a SNC-Lavalin jacket and be really smug and condescending. And for the rest of us, he can probably just be himself.

[CaberTosser]

O’Toole had a funny video clip on a Facebook video ad of him speaking before an audience where he made fun of his own looks despite being younger than Trudeau, he said: “This is what a lifetime of hard work looks like”. I liked the humility, it definitely put him on a relatable regular-Joe level compared to PM Part-timer/Zoolander (it holds true to this day when you think of the amount of time Trudeau takes off, especially recently where a dedicated person would take no time off). The way military personnel (or tradespeople for that matter) will razz each other and break down ego was definitely apparent.

[Bigwoodsman]

Originally Posted by manitou210

The only Conservative person that could have beat the Liberals in next election
is Pierre Poilievre. western boy, to bad we didn't do everything possible to get him to run
he would be a strong in Quebec and Ontario as well the west.
now another 4 years of Trudeau,s crap

X2
The best candidate didn't even run. Hopefully the new leader sees the strenth of Poilievre and uses him to his best ability to oust the turd.

Despite agreeing with you, I will give O'Tool my full support.

BW

[HVA7mm]

Originally Posted by HVA7mm

While at first glance he may not look as youthful as "what's his name" (I can't even bear to type it, let alone say it), when pandering to the younger urban voters he can always don a fake hipster beard and roll up to the podium on a rented e-scooter. While in Quebec, maybe apply a fake fleur de lis neck tattoo, throw on a SNC-Lavalin jacket and be really smug and condescending. And for the rest of us, he can probably just be himself.

I did forget about pandering to other members of the electorate. For the Green voters maybe a dreadlock wig, hemp clothing and a big fatty behind his ear. For the maritime voters.....................give them whatever they've been promised in the last two elections. For the SJW apologists, he can always wear torn and tattered clothing while crawling up to the podium on hands and knees, apologizing for everything that every Caucasian in history has done wrong, eyes full of tears and a look of utter shame on his face.

For the remaining voters on the left side of the political spectrum, promise to make Canada exactly like Sweden/Norway/Denmark/Germany/Netherlands/Venezuela/China and the former USSR, only better and more lefter, with 6 figure government jobs for everyone who is willing to work at least 35hrs per week. Oh, I forgot to offer up the option of a guaranteed living wage/free housing/supervised injection sites/free childcare/free post secondary/more and better acronyms for gender identity/a cure for COVID-19/a net-zero carbon footprint and more, all while using a budget that will simply balance itself.

That should almost cover it.

OMG, I almost forgot about BLM and defunding the police.

[Fowl91]

Originally Posted by Jigger

Nah I'm a millennial and would much rather someone socially conservative.

You are in the minority of millennial's then. Most are looking for someone who will balance the budget as well as swing more to the socially liberal side of the spectrum. And if you ask them which is more important, they often choose the social issues over the financials.

I too am a millennial and while I bleed blue on most issues, I can certainly see the trend of other people our age heading very far left. The reasons for that trend seem to lie solely on where the NDP and Liberals sit on the environment and social issues of today. And keep in mind we are now starting to get more Gen Z voters, so this is going to compound even more as we go on. If the CPC doesn't start meeting the expectations of Millennials and Gen Z, then they are at a huge disadvantage. Gen Z and Millennials combined now represent roughly 45% of the population, and while most are apathetic towards politics right now... it wont always be that way.

[pinelakeperch]

I don't see the CPC inspiring very many people "on the fence" to vote conservative. Our politics are looking more and more like U.S. politics in the sense that the division between the two established parties is growing.

[Bigwoodsman]

Originally Posted by pinelakeperch

I don't see the CPC inspiring very many people "on the fence" to vote conservative. Our politics are looking more and more like U.S. politics in the sense that the division between the two established parties is growing.

Divide and conquer! It's the corrupt lieberal mantra.

BW

[Scott N]

This hopefully works out to be the best choice, I'm just glad Mackay didn't win.

[tirebob]

The more I read about this guy the more I think his values line up with my own. I think he does have a chance if he can keep the party together. The issue really won't be the man himself, but the fringes of the party who don't seem to care about giving the CBC soundbites like fodder for the cannons and seem content to watch it all burn rather than trying to work from within. I really hope I am wrong with that.

[Sooner]

My thought is this leadership round had better candidates than the last one and were coming out of it with a much better head of the party. Even though O'toole was not my first choice, I think his age, his service to the country and his law career are all plus's moving forward to oust the Libs, much more than Scheer ever dreamed he could be.


I will now support him too that the votes are in and I just hope he goes hard against the turds/libs without constantly stepping in cow pies along the way.


I haven't checked my FB page yet but I am sure my sjw/lefty friends have already began the ancient rhetoric, this new leader is just as bad as the old leaders yada yada yada.

[pinelakeperch]

Originally Posted by Bigwoodsman

Divide and conquer! It's the corrupt lieberal mantra.

BW

It would be foolish to insinuate that it isn't occurring on both sides. I don't see either side wanting to be the first to budge.

[skain11]

Remember this thread from his first run at the leadership 4 years ago?

http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showt...highlight=erin

[AndrewM]

Originally Posted by skain11

Remember this thread from his first run at the leadership 4 years ago?

http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showt...highlight=erin

I will be back to answer your questions... 1 post. lol

[raab]

Originally Posted by jungleboy

Your argument against O’Toole is weak at best. You say he is too old, yet you are endorsing Bernier who is 10 yrs older than O’Toole.
You dislike him because he is a “career” politician yet , your boy Bernier has been at it 6 years longer than O’Toole.( he’s just not very good at it)
You say Sloan was the only choice that would win all of Canada, yet we know his voiced opinions on lgbtq whatever and racist comments of the past would get him exactly nowhere with the media and he would most likely lead the CPC to the same sort of super success as the PPC in the last election.
You obviously haven’t thought this through.
I am starting to think you are actually a Trudeau minion in disguise.

No, I'm a WildRoser/Reform party guy. The CPC has made it clear theres no room for true conservatives like me. And its inevitable that Canada splits up. When you have one side of the country telling the other side of the country what to do, it won't work. We need the power given back to the Provinces and allow each province to decide whats best for them. To much power concentrated in Ottawa and O'Toole won't change that.

[pikergolf]

Originally Posted by raab

No, I'm a WildRoser/Reform party guy. The CPC has made it clear theres no room for true conservatives like me. And its inevitable that Canada splits up. When you have one side of the country telling the other side of the country what to do, it won't work. We need the power given back to the Provinces and allow each province to decide whats best for them. To much power concentrated in Ottawa and O'Toole won't change that.

BS, you were a socialist when Wildrose and Reform were a thing. You are obviously young and passionate which is good, but those things are clouding your judgement. Some advice from an old guy, things are not always black and white. Passion does not always make you right. Wind your neck in and think before you post. Politics makes for some strange bedfellows, get used to it.

[raab]

Bernier says a place for Lewis and Sloan in PPC. Says the PPC allows people to voice their opinion and is fastest growing party in Canadian History. Sound is bad for parts of this clip, but still good to watch. He's made it clear O'Toole is Liberal lite.

https://www.facebook.com/hon.maximeb...7876047395858/

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by raab

Bernier says a place for Lewis and Sloan in PPC. Says the PPC allows people to voice their opinion and is fastest growing party in Canadian History. Sound is bad for parts of this clip, but still good to watch. He's made it clear O'Toole is Liberal lite.

https://www.facebook.com/hon.maximeb...7876047395858/

Bernier says? Who really cares what Bernier says? He ran for the party leadership and lost, and his party is going nowhere anytime soon.

[Walleyedude]

Originally Posted by raab

Bernier says a place for Lewis and Sloan in PPC. Says the PPC allows people to voice their opinion and is fastest growing party in Canadian History. Sound is bad for parts of this clip, but still good to watch. He's made it clear O'Toole is Liberal lite.

https://www.facebook.com/hon.maximeb...7876047395858/

LOL.

Bernier can say whatever he wants on Facebook. No one cares. He's toast. He couldn't even win his own riding!

He will never be a legitimate factor in Canadian politics again, just a sideshow.

[raab]

Originally Posted by pikergolf

BS, you were a socialist when Wildrose and Reform were a thing. You are obviously young and passionate which is good, but those things are clouding your judgement. Some advice from an old guy, things are not always black and white. Passion does not always make you right. Wind your neck in and think before you post. Politics makes for some strange bedfellows, get used to it.

Not true, I did vote Liberal but that's because I thought Chretien/Martin were what Liberals were like. Fiscally conservative, and socially Liberal. I also felt that Harper had been in power too long. I don't believe any PM should be in power more then 8 years regardless of party.

In saying that Trudeau is the exact opposite of Chretien/Martin, he's a fascist in the mould of Petain and is the biggest threat to Canadian Democracy and Freedom. Needs to be removed immediately.

Also I supported the WRP under Brian Jeans leadership, never would vote for the NDP due to their policy on animals being equal to humans.(Which means no hunting/fishing if they had the power long enough) I think the guys on here who voted NDP, but hold CPC memberships need to decide what side they're on.

[Stinky Buffalo]

My concern is, no matter how well the CPC does this time around, the Liberals will simply coalesce with the Greens/NDP to crush them.

[6.5 shooter]

Originally Posted by Sooner

My thought is this leadership round had better candidates than the last one and were coming out of it with a much better head of the party. Even though O'toole was not my first choice, I think his age, his service to the country and his law career are all plus's moving forward to oust the Libs, much more than Scheer ever dreamed he could be.


I will now support him too that the votes are in and I just hope he goes hard against the turds/libs without constantly stepping in cow pies along the way.


I haven't checked my FB page yet but I am sure my sjw/lefty friends have already began the ancient rhetoric, this new leader is just as bad as the old leaders yada yada yada.

This ^^

[jungleboy]

Originally Posted by raab

Not true, I did vote Liberal but that's because I thought Chretien/Martin were what Liberals were like. Fiscally conservative, and socially Liberal. I also felt that Harper had been in power too long. I don't believe any PM should be in power more then 8 years regardless of party.

In saying that Trudeau is the exact opposite of Chretien/Martin, he's a fascist in the mould of Petain and is the biggest threat to Canadian Democracy and Freedom. Needs to be removed immediately.

Also I supported the WRP under Brian Jeans leadership, never would vote for the NDP due to their policy on animals being equal to humans.(Which means no hunting/fishing if they had the power long enough) I think the guys on here who voted NDP, but hold CPC memberships need to decide what side they're on.

Sorry but voting for PPC isn’t going to get you there. Sloan would have guaranteed another 4 years of Trudeau and probably 8

[raab]

Originally Posted by jungleboy

Sorry but voting for PPC isn’t going to get you there. Sloan would have guaranteed another 4 years of Trudeau and probably 8

Maybe, maybe not, but at least I can say I voted according to what I believe and not what I think other people want.

[Sundancefisher]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Had Lewis been an MP, and been better known, she could have won the leadership, and possibly an election

She couldn’t speak French.

End of story.

Secondly she was too far off being seen as inclusive.

[jungleboy]

Originally Posted by raab

Maybe, maybe not, but at least I can say I voted according to what I believe and not what I think other people want.

Well , do you believe we need to get rid of Trudeau or do you believe you need to elect Bernia? You’re not getting either by supporting PPC.

Don’t get me wrong. I like what the PPC has to offer, the problem is they are not gonna fly in the majority of Canada or Alberta for that matter.

To me ,defeating Trudeau at all costs is the most important thing. The CPC and O’Toole are the best option for that.
Trudeau loves the PPC , he knows that every disgruntled conservative that votes PPC takes a vote away from the CPC and that by default is a vote for him .
Divide and conquer.... the Libs have been winning elections for 50 yrs doing that. Reform party made it easy for them and they have high hopes for the PPC as well I’m sure

[hayseed]

Originally Posted by Sooner

My thought is this leadership round had better candidates than the last one and were coming out of it with a much better head of the party. Even though O'toole was not my first choice, I think his age, his service to the country and his law career are all plus's moving forward to oust the Libs, much more than Scheer ever dreamed he could be.


I will now support him too that the votes are in and I just hope he goes hard against the turds/libs without constantly stepping in cow pies along the way.


I haven't checked my FB page yet but I am sure my sjw/lefty friends have already began the ancient rhetoric, this new leader is just as bad as the old leaders yada yada yada.

I dunno... I'm kinda on the fence, but there is no way in heck I can support the Libs, or NDP, ever.

What an uphill battle for us in the west.

[cody j]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Had Lewis been an MP, and been better known, she could have won the leadership, and possibly an election

Had she won I was curious as to how Blackface and his CBC were going to portray her as a racist

[Sundancefisher]

We have a new leader of the CPC now.

Next step is to be part of the solution and proactively help the new leader towards winning the next election. Means supporting the CPC and not passively assistancing Trudeau to continue his ethical decline.