Edmonton Mask Mandate Not Based On Science!

[GENINC]

Originally Posted by lastlatvian

I have not laughed this hard in years.

I'd be very disappointed if he doesn't look like this.

[huntsfurfish]

Originally Posted by gottspeed

The reason there is so much mask controversy is that people who use the internet for things other than reading about guns, porn, facebook and cbc have been able to communicate with impartial people all over the world and expose a global plot to enslave humanity. Most people still live in neverland however and believe that people with unlimited money and near unlimited power don’t take issue with a ballooning population of knuckle dragging mouth breathers.

You can literally read a document called “lockstep” by the Rockefeller foundation that describes using a global crisis like covid to seal the deal on global law-making. If you’re so inclined, but most people aren’t. Same foundation that helped establish the Chinese “cultural” revolution by the way which has striking similarities to what’s happening now in the west.

First it was don’t wear masks, until their engineered virus fell flat on its face, now, it’s everyone needs to wear a mask so covid seems like a big enough deal to warrant mandatory vaccinations which are a violation of the nuremberg code.

Masks and forced vaccinations are the powers that be going “all in” on their globalist gambit. It’s now or never for them because with the internet, people are slowly cluing in that they’ve been getting screwed for generations and their kids are about to get the worst deal ever.

Keep wearing your masks though. Be ashamed, abide. Reject logic. Like the Chinese did. It’s the way of the left.

Please see the last line in my signature.

[raab]

Originally Posted by Sundancefisher

Your wrong.

Mass spreader events are well documented for Covid. Spread has been far faster.

As for an article taking about 1976 science and technology and saying you won’t get vaccinated ever after current trials prove it is safe and effective.

Hopefully you look past poor logic once all the info on a vaccine is released. Unless you are at high risk, your dose likely won’t be available for 6-12 months so you will have even more info to base a decision on.

Lol

That being said...if you are under 65 and are not overweight or have lung, heart problems or diabetes...you are only risking the loved ones and friends around you who also don’t get vaccinated or can’t.

Treatment for Covid has come a long ways in 2020...but you still don’t want to fall in a bad demographic.

The fastest vaccine ever safely created took 4 years, but keep telling yourself that a new style of vaccine will be safe after 6 months. On top of that it is in fact less infectious then the flu. Only 2% of the general.population will show symptoms versus 3-11% with flu.

[Pathfinder76]

I’m at an outdoor wedding right now. In a town so small no one would recognize the name. There might be forty people here at said wedding. And guess what? The cops showed up. And it wasn’t because of noise or alcohol either.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by chuck

I’m at an outdoor wedding right now. In a town so small no one would recognize the name. There might be forty people here at said wedding. And guess what? The cops showed up. And it wasn’t because of noise or alcohol either.

They should have put some BLM signs up around the event, the police wouldn't dare bother them.

[Trochu]

I really wish governments would just focus on the their main business of running a country, trade, national defense/law and order, and infrastructure. Lets stop the mico-management, treat everyone equally, implement fair taxes, and allow people to be rewarded by using the gifts God gave them, whether that be beauty, intelligence, perseverance, etc. Dare to dream, I know...

[MountainTi]

Originally Posted by chuck

I’m at an outdoor wedding right now. In a town so small no one would recognize the name. There might be forty people here at said wedding. And guess what? The cops showed up. And it wasn’t because of noise or alcohol either.

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

They should have put some BLM signs up around the event, the police wouldn't dare bother them.

If this whole vid thing has done anything, it's brought out the rats and snitches, showed us the true colours of some people. Rats and snitches need to be dealt with the same as they would be dealt with in prison!

[GENINC]

Originally Posted by Trochu

I really wish governments would just focus on the their main business of running a country, trade, national defense/law and order, and infrastructure. Lets stop the mico-management, treat everyone equally, implement fair taxes, and allow people to be rewarded by using the gifts God gave them, whether that be beauty, intelligence, perseverance, etc. Dare to dream, I know...

Laws are predominantly in place for the lowest common denominator... Stupid people, nutcases, criminals etc.

If people wouldn't be so damn stupid, we wouldn't have your so called micromanagement, but this is the world we live in, as evidenced by this thread.

[Sundancefisher]

Originally Posted by raab

The fastest vaccine ever safely created took 4 years, but keep telling yourself that a new style of vaccine will be safe after 6 months. On top of that it is in fact less infectious then the flu. Only 2% of the general.population will show symptoms versus 3-11% with flu.

Ummm.

Symptoms does not directly correlate to infectiousness

The reason it is faster is because they are parallel tracking some stages. Also they are fast tracking production in case one does work. If it doesn’t there is a lost cost. If successful and many are looking positive...doses will be available much faster.

But please...continue spreading misinformation and fear.

https://theconversation.com/9-reason...in-2021-144277

https://www.raps.org/news-and-articl...accine-tracker

It costs a ton of extra money to fast track. It’s worth it if one or a combination of more than one works well.

[NinjaHunter]

My answer to all this. We have to keep the economy shut down and force everybody to wear a mask, even if some folks can't afford to buy mask.Cause think of the old people that are most risk prone group from dying from this. Think of the children and people with existing health conditions.

And we have to keep doing this every year, until this world is purged of all deadly viruses.

So buckle up fellow Canadians and prepare yourselves, for this is our sacred duty to sacrifice our country's economy and the future of our offsprings to win this war against those viruses.

[Bergerboy]

Originally Posted by Sundancefisher

Ummm.

Symptoms does not directly correlate to infectiousness

The reason it is faster is because they are parallel tracking some stages. Also they are fast tracking production in case one does work. If it doesn’t there is a lost cost. If successful and many are looking positive...doses will be available much faster.

But please...continue spreading misinformation and fear.

https://theconversation.com/9-reason...in-2021-144277

https://www.raps.org/news-and-articl...accine-tracker

It costs a ton of extra money to fast track. It’s worth it if one or a combination of more than one works well.

Interesting links with good information. Thank you. If you watch Coronavirus Explained on Netflix, the second installment illustrates the struggles with the distribution once a vaccine is established. If I recall correctly, the distribution would take 10 years due to production facilities and storage containers. Have a watch. Inventing a vaccine is one thing, manufacturing and distribution is a much larger monster.

[Bergerboy]

Originally Posted by NinjaHunter

My answer to all this. We have to keep the economy shut down and force everybody to wear a mask, even if some folks can't afford to buy mask.Cause think of the old people that are most risk prone group from dying from this. Think of the children and people with existing health conditions.

And we have to keep doing this every year, until this world is purged of all deadly viruses.

So buckle up fellow Canadians and prepare yourselves, for this is our sacred duty to sacrifice our country's economy and the future of our offsprings to win this war against those viruses.

This would cause far more damage than the virus ever would by 1000 fold.
Edit: AIDS is prevalent in Africa, would you suggest preventing Africans from sexual intercourse?

[Sundancefisher]

Originally Posted by Bergerboy

Interesting links with good information. Thank you. If you watch Coronavirus Explained on Netflix, the second installment illustrates the struggles with the distribution once a vaccine is established. If I recall correctly, the distribution would take 10 years due to production facilities and storage containers. Have a watch. Inventing a vaccine is one thing, manufacturing and distribution is a much larger monster.

What I read was it could take 1.5 years to vaccinate everyone in Canada and the US.

So I could see longer in the third world and likely most wont get it. There are so many psychos claiming vaccines are dangerous or nefarious that in some countries aid workers get murdered when distributing vaccines.

[Bergerboy]

Originally Posted by Sundancefisher

What I read was it could take 1.5 years to vaccinate everyone in Canada and the US.

So I could see longer in the third world and likely most wont get it. There are so many psychos claiming vaccines are dangerous or nefarious that in some countries aid workers get murdered when distributing vaccines.

Watch the Netflix series, it goes quite into depth of the struggles of distribution. I agree with you, there will be the fringe groups that are anti vaccine, this documentary does not address that aspect.

[happy honker]

Originally Posted by Big Grey Wolf

It is great to see we do not want to wear masks in Edmonton, now we have the highest infection rate in Canada, well done you "Anti maskers"

I heard that on the radio last night...why the heck is Edmonton so bad?
Horse poop leadership sending wishy washy mixed messages? What else?


My neighbors across the street had a party with about 20 or so people in the backyard and house last night.
None of my business, but a discouraging reminder this thing is gonna be bouncing around town for a long time yet.

I had 2 people over on Wednesday evening, we stayed in the backyard and had a great visit. I don't need to have 20 over. That can wait.

Also, missing in a lot of the "stats" you guys are throwing around to state your case...death isnt the only "complication" from this virus. A lot of people have lasting effects that I don't want any part of.

Drop the politics, use some common sense, and lets do whatever we got to do to reduce the effects and the rate of the spread of this thing.

We can all get back to normal once this is done, even though it's taking longer than we all would like.

I've been working through almost this entire "lockdown". I wear a mask around people at work, as is policy, and I've used more hand sanitizer than I ever thought existed in the world.
It's not fun putting that crap on, but it's not really that big of a deal either...what's the darn problem?

Initially all my summer work was gone, but I re-invented my career with a bit of drive, intuition, and luck, and ended up pretty darn busy.

I'll just say it. I see a lot of selfish babies who are not nearly as tough as they think they are, especially mentally.

Let's all go sky diving. I'll grab a parachute. All you folks who don't believe the "science" behind parachutes being able to slow us down before we hit the ground, you can leave yours on the plane....just try not to land on me while I'm down there folding mine up.

[Glion]

https://themodelhealthshow.com/maskfacts
Some facts on masks but just a disclaimer I only did a very quick initial watch and have not looked into this source extensively.
I also have some graphs and the current stats for alberta regarding serology. But cant figure out how to post them on here via my phone.
To be clear I have worn a mask when in etown where required even though someone else picked me up some exemption cards. I don't do it because I think it works I do it because there are some real pieces of work out there that make it their mission to attack others for what they think which is sometimes exemplified on this great forum.
In all reality this covid has killed less people than tuberculosis in a year.
https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/...s-total-deaths
I have said from the beginning we should be protecting the most vulnerable and let the rest go
https://www.conservativereview.com/n...nity-approach/
That article details mask wearing compliance levels vs infection rates.
Anywho everyone stay safe
And I believe sk270 was asking me for help before for some things I stated. This is some of it so I hope that helps sk270

[CBintheNorth]

Originally Posted by Glion

https://themodelhealthshow.com/maskfacts
Some facts on masks but just a disclaimer I only did a very quick initial watch and have not looked into this source extensively.
I also have some graphs and the current stats for alberta regarding serology. But cant figure out how to post them on here via my phone.
To be clear I have worn a mask when in etown where required even though someone else picked me up some exemption cards. I don't do it because I think it works I do it because there are some real pieces of work out there that make it their mission to attack others for what they think which is sometimes exemplified on this great forum.
In all reality this covid has killed less people than tuberculosis in a year.
https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/...s-total-deaths
I have said from the beginning we should be protecting the most vulnerable and let the rest go
https://www.conservativereview.com/n...nity-approach/
That article details mask wearing compliance levels vs infection rates.
Anywho everyone stay safe
And I believe sk270 was asking me for help before for some things I stated. This is some of it so I hope that helps sk270

It's a very divided issue, with both sides firmly planted in their beliefs.
Masks have become more than an item of protection, they now somehow symbolize someone's virtue.
Ever see the Seinfeld episode where Kramer won't wear the ribbon?
I'm glad the provincial government has had some sense in all of this. They clearly stated that they expected an uptick in cases shortly after everything opened.
Now things are opening up, we have an uptick, and people are freaking out. Even with the fact that the virus is showing to be losing its potency and hospitals are nowhere near their capacity, people are freaking out.

[Smokey]

Originally Posted by CBintheNorth

It's a very divided issue, with both sides firmly planted in their beliefs.
Masks have become more than an item of protection, they now somehow symbolize someone's virtue.
Ever see the Seinfeld episode where Kramer won't wear the ribbon?
I'm glad the provincial government has had some sense in all of this. They clearly stated that they expected an uptick in cases shortly after everything opened.
Now things are opening up, we have an uptick, and people are freaking out. Even with the fact that the virus is showing to be losing its potency and hospitals are nowhere near their capacity, people are freaking out.

I wonder about that. Alberta. ICU has dropped to 9, while Active cases have risen. Sure there are factors like more Millenials getting sick. However in other places Doctors have expressed the virus has weakened significantly.

[pikergolf]

Originally Posted by raab

The fastest vaccine ever safely created took 4 years, but keep telling yourself that a new style of vaccine will be safe after 6 months. On top of that it is in fact less infectious then the flu. Only 2% of the general.population will show symptoms versus 3-11% with flu.

The fastest a mile was ever run was well over 4 min at one time, so what.

[raab]

Originally Posted by pikergolf

The fastest a mile was ever run was well over 4 min at one time, so what.

We're not just talking fastest vaccine ever using traditional methods. They're using a new gene based method. Basically if they get approval this is going to be a huge experiment with a new type of vaccine, produced in record time for a virus that doesn't effect 98% of people. I won't be signing up.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...r-than-years1/

[Talking moose]

Originally Posted by raab

We're not just talking fastest vaccine ever using traditional methods. They're using a new gene based method. Basically if they get approval this is going to be a huge experiment with a new type of vaccine, produced in record time for a virus that doesn't effect 98% of people. I won't be signing up.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...r-than-years1/

X2. I’d like to wait atleast 2-3 weeks in case there are long term side effects.

[midgetwaiter]

Originally Posted by Smokey

I wonder about that. Alberta. ICU has dropped to 9, while Active cases have risen. Sure there are factors like more Millenials getting sick. However in other places Doctors have expressed the virus has weakened significantly.

This is to be expected. If you have multiple strains of infection over time one that has lower mortality or at least a lower overall health impact will become the dominant strain as the people who are infected have more opportunity to spread the virus. This is what keeps super scary stuff like Ebola from spreading more than it does, kills too many too fast.