My "Does it all" rifle

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by 270person

Jack only used a 270??

Jack had a pair of almost identical 270’s that he did an extensive amount of hunting with all over the world. Yes, he hunted with other rifles, but these two are his most used.

[Deer Hunter]

The op was talking mice to moose. I wouldn't shoot a moose with my gopher patch gun. Or coyotes with my elk gun.
Of course you could.

Owning lots of hunting guns drives a passion for shooting and hunting.
One rifle is boring. Boring can work, but it's still boring.

[marky_mark]

Originally Posted by 1899b

From 1945 to 1970 that one rifle was the reason my Mom’s family had meat back then. Much more important than a hunt for recreation. Lmao

Times are very different
My grandparents came over after wwII also and settled a little west of there
They never complained about nearly starving or anything like that in canada
When they talked about being sent to siberia, now thats a different story
I dont think they shot much wildlife. I think there is more animals now than there was then. They always raised their own cows pigs and chickens too

[270person]

Originally Posted by chuck

Jack had a pair of almost identical 270’s that he did an extensive amount of hunting with all over the world. Yes, he hunted with other rifles, but these two are his most used.

I'm aware and probably as big an afficianado of the man as you are, but he wasn't a one rifle guy is all I'm saying. Would be silly hunting some of the things he did with a 277.

Nowadays he wouldn't even be allowed to.

[WhiteTailAB]

Originally Posted by skidderman

What do you think it will weigh? Never heard of a kwik clip fitting the wsm. If it does that is awesome!!!!

Rifle is complete now minus paint.

I'll weigh it tomorrow and the kwik clip works if you bend the lips. Feeds so smooth I though I was missing rounds when I closed the bolt.

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by Deer Hunter

The op was talking mice to moose. I wouldn't shoot a moose with my gopher patch gun. Or coyotes with my elk gun.
Of course you could.

Owning lots of hunting guns drives a passion for shooting and hunting.
One rifle is boring. Boring can work, but it's still boring.

I’ve shot big game with the 243, 243 AI, 260, 7-08, 308, 7x57, 6.5x55, 270, 280, 280 AI, 30-06, 7mm WSM, 7mm RM, 7mm MSM, 300 WM, 338WM, 375 H&H likely more and several multiples of the ones mentioned in several platform iterations. Yeah, it’s cool, yeah it’s fun, and yeah, it’s a ridiculous and unnecessary luxury. Times have not changed, we have. In fact, with advancements in bullet technology one gun makes far more sense now than it did 50 years ago.

[Deer Hunter]

Originally Posted by chuck

I’ve shot big game with the 243, 243 AI, 260, 7-08, 308, 7x57, 6.5x55, 270, 280, 280 AI, 30-06, 7mm WSM, 7mm RM, 7mm MSM, 300 WM, 338WM, 375 H&H likely more and several multiples of the ones mentioned in several platform iterations. Yeah, it’s cool, yeah it’s fun, and yeah, it’s a ridiculous and unnecessary luxury. Times have not changed, we have. In fact, with advancements in bullet technology one gun makes far more sense now than it did 50 years ago.

You speak of unnecessary luxuries.
Like goretex boots
Trailcams
Rangefinders

I really don't care what you've shot big game with. Maybe your trying to impress others? Keep trying.

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by Deer Hunter

You speak of unnecessary luxuries.
Like goretex boots
Trailcams
Rangefinders

I really don't care what you've shot big game with. Maybe your trying to impress others? Keep trying.

I’m trying to say that I have earned the right to have an opinion on the subject. If I was trying to impress you with it I’d have mentioned it four pages ago.

[marky_mark]

Originally Posted by chuck

I’m trying to say that I have earned the right to have an opinion on the subject. If I was trying to impress you with it I’d have mentioned it four pages ago.

Come on
Whats a thread on here without chuck putting up the same pics of his 2 deer and 1 elk

[Deer Hunter]

Originally Posted by chuck

I’m trying to say that I have earned the right to have an opinion on the subject. If I was trying to impress you with it I’d have mentioned it four pages ago.

Really...
Don't hurt your arm patting yourself on the back.

[RZR]

Originally Posted by marky_mark

Come on
Whats a thread on here without chuck putting up the same pics of his 2 deer and 1 elk

You should ask him how many shots he took to hit those animals.

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by RZR

You should ask him how many shots he took to hit those animals.

Wanna shoot for pink slips?

[RZR]

Was it 7 shots to hit that ram?

[270person]

Originally Posted by chuck

I’ve shot big game with the 243, 243 AI, 260, 7-08, 308, 7x57, 6.5x55, 270, 280, 280 AI, 30-06, 7mm WSM, 7mm RM, 7mm MSM, 300 WM, 338WM, 375 H&H likely more and several multiples of the ones mentioned in several platform iterations. Yeah, it’s cool, yeah it’s fun, and yeah, it’s a ridiculous and unnecessary luxury. Times have not changed, we have. In fact, with advancements in bullet technology one gun makes far more sense now than it did 50 years ago.

Advancements in bullet technology have also stretched the capabilities of small for game cartridges in a lot of minds. Someone, at some point, decided it was a contest to see who could shoot the biggest game with the lightest cartridges and i find it to be pretty stupid, all things considered.

I give a lot more credit to the guys going overpowered than under. Not a popular decision in these parts but I really don't care. Bullet design isn't everything. Being a better shooter with the right cartridge for the job is.

[Pathfinder76]

I think there are sensible minimums, and i have mentioned them in this thread. But I do believe the 30-06, we’ll say, is a bigger gun than it was 50 years ago.

I also think that the “does it all” rifle does exist.

[marky_mark]

Originally Posted by RZR

Was it 7 shots to hit that ram?

Haha
I must have missed the whole ram story
Anyone got a link?

[marky_mark]

Originally Posted by 270person

Advancements in bullet technology have also stretched the capabilities of small for game cartridges in a lot of minds. Someone, at some point, decided it was a contest to see who could shoot the biggest game with the lightest cartridges and i find it to be pretty stupid, all things considered.

I give a lot more credit to the guys going overpowered than under. Not a popular decision in these parts but I really don't care. Bullet design isn't everything. Being a better shooter with the right cartridge for the job is.

Cough 6.5 grendel on moose cough

[marky_mark]

Originally Posted by RZR

Was it 7 shots to hit that ram?

I wish i could find animals that dumb
Was it at a petting zoo?
High fence?

[JD848]

Originally Posted by chuck

wanna shoot for pink slips?

delete.

[JTRED]

My favourite hunting rifle at the moment would be my 270win Tikka t3ss in a composite stock

[270person]

Originally Posted by chuck

I also think that the “does it all” rifle does exist.

I do too. Since anything on the continent has been mentioned its the .375 H&H. Excellent cartridge that handles everything from deer to the big bears efficiently and isn't hard to shoot.

Nothing under 225gr bullets should even be considered.

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by chuck

I think there are sensible minimums, and i have mentioned them in this thread. But I do believe the 30-06, we’ll say, is a bigger gun than it was 50 years ago.

I also think that the “does it all” rifle does exist.

Exactly.....with the bullets on the market today you have a healthier selection of matching the bullet to the game.....I will throw a Barnes, 140 gr at a mouse and a moose with the same results.....7-08 that is....X...marks the spot.

[1899b]

Originally Posted by marky_mark

Times are very different
My grandparents came over after wwII also and settled a little west of there
They never complained about nearly starving or anything like that in canada
When they talked about being sent to siberia, now thats a different story
I dont think they shot much wildlife. I think there is more animals now than there was then. They always raised their own cows pigs and chickens too

Every year a moose “had” to be taken or it was going to be a rough one. Yes my Grandparents farmed and manned a trapline to supplement income but if a moose wasn’t taken it was a heavy burden on the family. Just shows that back when it mattered most, one gun was very important. It was all he could afford and he made do. Unlike today here in Alberta amongst recreational hunters who think they need a different arm if the foliage is friggen different or the foothill
turns into a mountain when on a recreational hunt and the meat is being given away anyway for some...

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by 270person

I do too. Since anything on the continent has been mentioned its the .375 H&H. Excellent cartridge that handles everything from deer to the big bears efficiently and isn't hard to shoot.

Nothing under 225gr bullets should even be considered.

I’m positive that a 375 is far from necessary.

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by marky_mark

I wish i could find animals that dumb
Was it at a petting zoo?
High fence?

Classy. Thanks.

[270person]

Originally Posted by chuck

I’m positive that a 375 is far from necessary.

Necessary is in the eye of the beholder. Very good cartridge and considered ideal in many parts of the continent. It edges out the 338 on my list.

[bat119]

50 years ago the do it all rifle was a .303 because there was no hype for faster better, it did and still does the job on anything including elephants.

[marky_mark]

Originally Posted by 1899b

Every year a moose “had” to be taken or it was going to be a rough one. Yes my Grandparents farmed and manned a trapline to supplement income but if a moose wasn’t taken it was a heavy burden on the family. Just shows that back when it mattered most, one gun was very important. It was all he could afford and he made do. Unlike today here in Alberta amongst recreational hunters who think they need a different arm if the foliage is friggen different or the foothill
turns into a mountain when on a recreational hunt and the meat is being given away anyway for some...

Yep
Back in those days most families in that area had a lot of mouthes to feed

Obviously his one gun was important. But it wouldn’t have been the end of the world if he had 2. If he had 0, things would be different. But he would have been no worse off with 2.

I used to hunt with one rifle
A 30/06
It’s the jack of all trades, master of none
Filling the freezer is a non issue. I can shoot my general tag and 2 supplementals opening morning. Yayyy 👎 what fun is that?

1 rifle can work, yes
But I didn’t spend big bucks to shoot does

[Pathfinder76]

Grancel Fitz and JY Jones sure didn’t struggle killing things on this continent with a 30-06.

[Kurt505]

Any legal big game rifle can be your “does it all” rifle. I’ve shot coyotes with a 300 mag and deer with a 243, my brother in law has shot many moose with his .243. Caliber and cartridge are irrelevant when you add “need” into the equation. If you add “want” into the equation then you don’t “need” just one gun.