Mailing brass to yourself from the states

[Xbolt7mm]

If you use us mail, can you mail brass to yourself from the states, arizona to be exact

[Mhunter51]

I would think that would be a VERY foolish thing to do. When they run that package through the exray scanner and see all the " vial " shapes, or worse yet bullet shapes your hooped. Your name will forever be flagged and if they charge you federaly you will never cross the border again. I asked natchez shooting supply about that when I was in Phoenix and they just laughed. She said it will NEVER pass and you will be in a big mess.

[elkhunter11]

Without the proper export permits from the USA, that would be illegal, basically the equivalent of arms smuggling.

[JBE]

I thought it was legal to bring brass across the border. Who da thunk that

[Nyksta]

Importing items into Canada, and Exporting items from the States, are two different sets of rules.

[Mhunter51]

You need the export permit if you " send " the brass or if you carry it across the border. ATF and ITAR would not be happy. Very serious, and illegal.

[marky_mark]

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/f...porter-eng.htm

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/i.../us-eu-eng.htm

[marky_mark]

https://canadianfirearmsblog.ca/itar-and-canada/

[marky_mark]

thought I found one that allowed it
I was wrong

[West O'5]

Mail it to your next door neighbor,lol......or to your deadbeat brother in law that’s not allowed entry into USA anyhow.😂😝

[Xbolt7mm]

I may be confused but does this not say I can bring in up to 5000 brass without a permit?

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by Xbolt7mm

I may be confused but does this not say I can bring in up to 5000 brass without a permit?

Homeland Security doesn't care about the Canadian regulations, they enforce the USA regulations. They would not be amused to discover that you used US mail to illegally export ITAR controlled components out of the USA.

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by Xbolt7mm

I may be confused but does this not say I can bring in up to 5000 brass without a permit?

You are confused.

If you play stupid games you will win stupid prizes. Ask Midway USA.

[freeride]

Originally Posted by Xbolt7mm

I may be confused but does this not say I can bring in up to 5000 brass without a permit?

It does BUT it also doesn't say from the USA.

The paragraph above also says "However, an export permit from the other country may be required."

Lots of stories on here about people bringing things across the boarder that while Canada allows them to be imported the US does not allow them to be exported. Get caught by the US side and you will be hurting.

[Pioneer2]

The BATF and Homeland Security aren't even on the same page.BTW American Law Officers can pursue you into Canada if need be.It could be interesting if they shoot someone on "our side " of the line.

[West O'5]

If you drive it across the border and declare it you are golden,Canada doesn’t care.
If you get caught trying to bring it across on USA side of border,you go to Guantanamo Bay for undetermined amount of time and upon release receive $10.5M from Turdo for your suffering....win/win 🤪😝

[Pathfinder76]

[Pioneer2]

For the win.

[32-40win]

Components may be getting moved to Commerce/BIS and out of the DDTC munitions list, for up to 100.00 is what I saw. BUT, have not seen anything confirming that is done for sure yet. There were supposed to be changes to allow for things like rings, scopes, iron sights, sling swivels and various non-trigger group parts that were all going to be moved. Some was up to 500.00, some was only 100.00, it looked like bullets and brass may have been included in the 100.00 exemption. However, no confirmation is published anywhere I can spot it so far. Was supposed to be a gov't held seminar at 2019 SHOT on it, not sure if it happened as the people who do it were "unemployed" by the budget debate in the US at the time. Somebody like Brownell's may have a better idea of what is going on, as it affected permits they would or wouldn't need and where they got them. Last published easy to find gov't info, was a proposal in 2018, all this was supposed to happen this year.

[32-40win]

Here is one newer article on it;

https://www.nationaldefensemagazine....rt-regulations

I don't see any mention of small arms or ammo in here though, supposed to be somewhere in the ECCN 600 series stuff, I think I saw another article on eccn605,6 or 7 and a subclassification of that as being pertinent.

It is worth looking at to see what they do in here though;

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/R41916.pdf

[32-40win]

This is the one that mentions all the EAR and ECCN numbers, from last year though.
https://www.regulations.gov/document...RDOC_0001-4527

[32-40win]

Reasonably current article on the changes, or what is not happening yet;
https://www.exportsolutionsinc.com/r...ontrol-reform/

[32-40win]

This one shows who is against it and a bit of a timeline on things as they are;


https://www.forumarmstrade.org/catitoiii.html

[fordtruckin]

Originally Posted by Pioneer2

The BATF and Homeland Security aren't even on the same page.BTW American Law Officers can pursue you into Canada if need be.It could be interesting if they shoot someone on "our side " of the line.

You seriously think they can just cross borders do yah?? I’d like to see that in print from an OFFICIAL source!!! Because I highly DOUBT that is the case! We have no jurisdiction in Canada just like a Canadian LEO has no jurisdiction in the USA.

[ghostguy6]

Originally Posted by fordtruckin

You seriously think they can just cross borders do yah?? I’d like to see that in print from an OFFICIAL source!!! Because I highly DOUBT that is the case! We have no jurisdiction in Canada just like a Canadian LEO has no jurisdiction in the USA.

Actually there is something that allows it but the officers have to be formally allowed to enter the country by the government. I'm not entirely sure how it works.

[West O'5]

Originally Posted by ghostguy6

Actually there is something that allows it but the officers have to be formally allowed to enter the country by the government. I'm not entirely sure how it works.

I was told by a reliable source a few years ago(prior to weed being legal in Washington at least)that DEA helicopters routinely flew into CDN airspace raiding crops in Creston,BC region.

[BPman]

Originally Posted by Xbolt7mm

I may be confused but does this not say I can bring in up to 5000 brass without a permit?

It is NOT the Canadian import regs that will get you in trouble. It is the USA export regs that could put you in jail or get you a lifetime ban from ever entering the USA again.