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Old 11-26-2020, 04:00 PM
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Bought one of those clear plastic face shields from amazon. Keeps me safe and people can see my facial expressions. Also individuals who are hard of hearing can read my lips. To clean just wash with Lysol and let dry.
Any citations for effectiveness of this type of mask? I know the results for the shield type clear plastic have not been good.
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Old 11-26-2020, 07:31 PM
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Masks are useless. Unless you have a actual seal it’s a bandaid on a sucking chest wound. Haven’t had one on my face ever nor will I. The plandemic is a hoax, haven’t changed a thing about my life over this. Looking forward to this weekend and having some great friends over for a relaxing evening with drinks.
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Old 11-26-2020, 08:45 PM
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Masks are useless. Unless you have a actual seal it’s a bandaid on a sucking chest wound. Haven’t had one on my face ever nor will I. The plandemic is a hoax, haven’t changed a thing about my life over this. Looking forward to this weekend and having some great friends over for a relaxing evening with drinks.
Atta go CHAMP !!! Thanks for doing you part
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Old 11-26-2020, 08:49 PM
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Old 11-26-2020, 09:33 PM
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So whitetail how are you going to deal with mandate that you will have to wear a mask when going into a business such as a grocery or shopping store.
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Old 11-27-2020, 01:18 AM
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Covid 19 is 0.12 microns.
Cotton fabric will not catch any of the virus unless it's mixed in with mucous or spit then the fabric will catch some of it.
Yet the main concern seems to be exhaled droplets of liquid.
Which range in size from 5-10 microns.

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COVID-19 virus chiefly transmits through liquid droplets containing viruses. These droplets are often generated by infected patients through coughing and can transmit the virus to uninfected individuals by direct inhalation, or by contaminating nearby surfaces. These larger droplets tend to fall close to where they were released, which is why social distancing measures have been enforced.
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While COVID-19 is mainly spread by inhaling tiny droplets released when an infected person talks, coughs or sneezes, large droplets can also land on surfaces.
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Old 11-27-2020, 01:46 AM
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Covid 19 is 0.12 microns.
Cotton fabric will not catch any of the virus unless it's mixed in with mucous or spit then the fabric will catch some of it.

Or filter it.

I suspect this virus is far hardier in an airborne form than we are being led to believe.

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Old 11-27-2020, 06:54 AM
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Covid 19 is 0.12 microns.
Cotton fabric will not catch any of the virus unless it's mixed in with mucous or spit then the fabric will catch some of it.
Just like an oil type air filter, they are pretty much useless, if they are not oiled.
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Old 11-27-2020, 06:57 AM
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Masks are useless. Unless you have a actual seal it’s a bandaid on a sucking chest wound. Haven’t had one on my face ever nor will I. The plandemic is a hoax, haven’t changed a thing about my life over this. Looking forward to this weekend and having some great friends over for a relaxing evening with drinks.
And here is why the rest are having tighter restrictions applied....thx
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Old 11-27-2020, 07:14 AM
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And here is why the rest are having tighter restrictions applied....thx
Some people just don't get it and they never will.

Masks are not there to provide 100% protection to the wearer from inhaling the virus.

Masks are there to stop the wearers from spraying their infected mucus and sputum on the rest of us.
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Old 11-27-2020, 07:42 AM
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Some people just don't get it and they never will.

Masks are not there to provide 100% protection to the wearer from inhaling the virus.

Masks are there to stop the wearers from spraying their infected mucus and sputum on the rest of us.
The problem is that some people's behavior tends to change when they put on a mask. Many of the same people that were very careful about maintaining social distance put on a mask, and then tend to forget all about social distancing, because they have a mask on.
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Old 11-27-2020, 07:55 AM
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The problem is that some people's behavior tends to change when they put on a mask. Many of the same people that were very careful about maintaining social distance put on a mask, and then tend to forget all about social distancing, because they have a mask on.
Or they won't wear them properly. I have seen people in the grocery store with the mask only covering their chin, or only on their mouth and not their nose, or pulled up on their nose and not over their mouth. Good grief.
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Old 11-27-2020, 08:08 AM
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Those that know me know I pretty much wear a bandana all the time; long before this nonsense came along. The difference is now I put a medical grade mask inside the fold so I have 4-5 layers between my lips and your vicinity. I do this to protect you and I appreciate those that do their part to protect me. Thanks.

The other thing I do is keep my distance. I'm a stand-offish kind of guy so I do this this to protect me. Rather selfish I know but I do my best.

No one is asking for anyone to give up their freedoms- at least with the face coverings- but we are being asked to be good citizens. As a wise fellow once said: "No man is an island entire of himself."

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Old 11-27-2020, 08:21 AM
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No one is asking for anyone to give up their freedoms- at least with the face coverings- but we are being asked to be good citizens. As a wise fellow once said: "No man is an island entire of himself."
Excellent. We are left to wonder why some individuals will not participate.
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Old 11-27-2020, 08:27 AM
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i wonder if there was this much mayhem when restaurants "demanded" that patrons wear shirts and shoes otherwise they would not be served ?
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Old 11-27-2020, 08:29 AM
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There are distinct parallels between people being told to wear masks for the pandemic and being told to wear seat belts in vehicles. Some of the same arguments were raised way back when seat belts became suggested and then mandatory.

Health/safety experts and governments tell us to use both masks and seat belts.
Both are easy to use.
Both are minimally problematic for the user.
Both have been shown to be effective in protecting the user and bystanders.
A few perverse individuals refuse to comply.

The rest of us are left wondering about some people’s motivations.
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Old 11-27-2020, 08:39 AM
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I suspect this virus is far hardier in an airborne form than we are being led to believe.
Please explain further.

I have read that aerosolized viruses remain airborne for three hours or so and then remain infective for days, depending on ambient conditions. Do you mean that the particles remain airborne for longer or the viruses resist degradation for longer times?

Thanks.
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Old 11-27-2020, 09:20 AM
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By law in Quebec right now, you are prohibited from covering your face for religious reasons but it's mandatory that you cover your face for "safety" reasons. They literally ask you take your mask off to put a mask on. Long live common sense and logic!
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Old 11-27-2020, 09:25 AM
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By law in Quebec right now, you are prohibited from covering your face for religious reasons but it's mandatory that you cover your face for "safety" reasons. They literally ask you take your mask off to put a mask on. Long live common sense and logic!
I guess something got lost in the translation !
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Old 11-27-2020, 09:44 AM
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Old 11-27-2020, 09:59 AM
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Masks are useless. Unless you have a actual seal it’s a bandaid on a sucking chest wound. Haven’t had one on my face ever nor will I. The plandemic is a hoax, haven’t changed a thing about my life over this. Looking forward to this weekend and having some great friends over for a relaxing evening with drinks.
Atta boy, you da man!
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Old 11-27-2020, 10:05 AM
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https://www.princessauto.com/en/deta...ks/A-p8953655f

These ones are very comfortable , have a filter layer . And fit well
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Old 11-27-2020, 12:03 PM
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I wear a mask because I do not want to be responseable for your untimely death, I do not believe in them and for all the reasons listed here, but I wear one anyway. If I follow the pack, then I am guilty, but your alive.
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Old 11-27-2020, 12:23 PM
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Was in town today and at two locations staff was explaining to patrons that they need a mask...wow the attitude they got...these people are just nicely doing their job and are not there to be abused...one young lady said to me he don’t want to mess with us east coast girls...I asked to pay and get out of dodge as I didn’t need that smack down...all kidding aside just follow protocol and don’t take it out on people just trying to earn a living amongst this uncertainty.
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Masks are useless. Unless you have a actual seal it’s a bandaid on a sucking chest wound. Haven’t had one on my face ever nor will I. The plandemic is a hoax, haven’t changed a thing about my life over this. Looking forward to this weekend and having some great friends over for a relaxing evening with drinks.
Pathetic!
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Old 11-27-2020, 01:05 PM
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A guy told me he's not getting the covid vaccine because he doesn't know the long term side effects, then he lit up a cigarette.

Only the smart will survive
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Old 11-27-2020, 01:42 PM
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A guy told me he's not getting the covid vaccine because he doesn't know the long term side effects, then he lit up a cigarette.

Only the smart will survive
To be fair, he does know the long term side effects of smoking!

It feels like society is constantly pandering to the opposite of smart though and have been heading in that direction for quite some time, I digress though.
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Old 11-27-2020, 03:21 PM
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i wonder if there was this much mayhem when restaurants "demanded" that patrons wear shirts and shoes otherwise they would not be served ?
No mayhem, just a total bummer in the surfing community.
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Old 11-27-2020, 03:33 PM
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Masks are useless. Unless you have a actual seal it’s a bandaid on a sucking chest wound. Haven’t had one on my face ever nor will I. The plandemic is a hoax, haven’t changed a thing about my life over this. Looking forward to this weekend and having some great friends over for a relaxing evening with drinks.
We've got a big man here! Wooo!

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There are distinct parallels between people being told to wear masks for the pandemic and being told to wear seat belts in vehicles. Some of the same arguments were raised way back when seat belts became suggested and then mandatory.

Health/safety experts and governments tell us to use both masks and seat belts.
Both are easy to use.
Both are minimally problematic for the user.
Both have been shown to be effective in protecting the user and bystanders.
A few perverse individuals refuse to comply.

The rest of us are left wondering about some people’s motivations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nkn5Fk-yss

Studies have consistently shown that transmission is primarily occurring indoors during "social gatherings". I have a hard time believing that people are contracting COVID in retail settings. Therefore, I feel that mask mandates are primarily political. Nevertheless, I wear the damn thing. If I'm preventing myself from getting COVID, or preventing someone else from getting COVID, great! If not, big deal, I have to wear a cloth mask on my face. I'm not being "conditioned", I'm not losing any rights, and I'm not worried about "socialist elites" and other ridiculous bogeymen.

Are the anti-mask "Karens" just angry contrarians? I don't get the impassioned opposition.
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Old 11-27-2020, 04:26 PM
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Are the anti-mask "Karens" just angry contrarians? I don't get the impassioned opposition.
Exactly. I have known a few guys who won't wear seat belts. They don't really have a reason, just not going to do what they're told to.

It must be the same thing with the people who won't wear face masks. Like you say, just contrarians who want to disagree with everything the majority does.

A few of them bother to dream up specious reasons but we all know that wearing a face mask is easy to do and proven to reduce the spread of Covid-19.
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