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Old 08-31-2017, 02:54 PM
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Default Does this make sense?

I suppose eventually the wolves would decline but wouldn't they take a big chunk out of the Caribou population before they did?


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...cull-1.4269660

Forget wolf culls: researcher says more moose and deer hunting would help B.C. caribou
Research found areas where moose hunting was increased had fewer wolves and fewer caribou killed


A herd of B.C.'s endangered mountain caribou that lives in Mount Revelstoke National Park has only four animals left after numbering 120 in 1994, according to a University of Alberta researcher.

Robert Serrouya gave that example to show the pressing need to find new conservation solutions before these caribou herds disappear forever.

"There's about 50 herds in B.C., and only 10 per cent of those are stable or increasing [their populations]," he said. "The rest are declining or not doing very well."

In new research published in PeerJ, an academic journal, Serrouya and others advocate for one particular solution: increase the hunting of deer and moose that are spreading across B.C.

Caribou are 'bycatch'

Serrouya says logging activities, climate change and forest fires over the last 150 years have removed trees in B.C., replacing them with lighter shrubbery that can remain in place for 30 to 40 years.

That shrubbery is eaten by moose and deer. As the shrubbery has grown, so too have those animals' populations while also spreading into caribou territory.

He says those animals are enticing wolves to come along with them and caribou are becoming "bycatch" — unintentionally caught prey — as the wolves hunt moose and deer. "They're not the main animal that sustains the predators but they get taken on the side and that can lead to extinction."

As he explains, that's because caribou are less reproductive than moose or deer, and while moose and deer have ways of handling predators — moose with their fearsome kicking and deer with their speed — caribou simply travel to areas where there are no predators.

But as wolves spread and habitat is removed, that is less and less possible.

Fewer moose, fewer wolves

Serrouya says many jurisdictions are using wolf culls to stop the loss of caribou, but he says that is a "Band-Aid solution" at best and increasingly socially unacceptable.

His research compared caribou herds in areas where moose hunting was increased with areas where hunting remained the same.

He says in areas where moose hunting was increased, wolves moved on and bred less.

"That approach seems more acceptable than directly killing wolves," he said. "You're also providing a food opportunity for hunters."

Serrouya says increased hunting of deer and moose is not the solution on its own but along with better habitat management and maternal penning it could be part of a solution.
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Old 08-31-2017, 03:12 PM
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If there is only 4 cariboo in a herd then it is not viable. They want to triple the moose kill to save the `boo. Stupid stupid. Moose are in trouble here as well. So then we have no moose and no Cariboo. Makes sense no? No. Got to remember who these idiots are. College don`t make you wise.
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Old 08-31-2017, 04:19 PM
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Seems like this experiment has been going on in AB for some time, open the northern zones to a moose free for all with tags. Lots say Moose #'s are real low, no word on the Caribou increasing.

Used to be a sign in the zone I hunt noting it's the southern tip of the Caribou range. It used to have undersubscribed moose draws available most of Nov. Back then I would see 5 or 6 bulls in a season(Oct to Nov) with good age class, cows and calf's. Then the gov went nuts with tag numbers and every one who could, grabbed a tag. Now your lucky if 10 tags are available for Nov.

Talk to the guides up there and the word was, wipe out the moose to save the boo. 20 yrs hunting and sledding the out of the way areas in the south part of this zone and never seen a Caribou up there or a track. Maybe closer to Wabasca the herd is seen. Moose numbers sure suck.

Too many tags, Native hunting, some bad winters in a row and wolves all combined to knock numbers down big time.

Guess the Caribou must be doing alright now

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Old 08-31-2017, 07:31 PM
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Ok so if we go so far that we exterminate all the moose that would mean no more wolves? Or do you think an apex predator can figure out what else to eat such as elk, deer or even caribou. The science is quackery. And really? 16:1 moose to whitetail.
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