Bill 20

[58thecat]

Alberta government wants power to remove municipal councillors, repeal bylaws it doesn't like….

https://www.cbc.ca/news

Agree? Disagree?


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[Trochu]

Pretty sure Municipal Affairs has had this ability for decades.

And your link seems to be off....

[Grizzly Adams1]

Originally Posted by Trochu

Pretty sure Municipal Affairs has had this ability for decades.

And your link seems to be off....

X2, but it sounds like they are intending to bring party affiliation to the municipal level. I'm against it.

[elkhunter11]

I am against parties at the municipal level, but there does need to be a better system of recall. Requiring 500000 signatures in Calgary is totally asinine

[Stinky Buffalo]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

I am against parties at the municipal level, but there does need to be a better system of recall. Requiring 500000 signatures in Calgary is totally asinine

Exactly - Imagine the damage that could happen to our municipalities if the NDP was running the provincial show... Having recall options at the municipal level makes more sense.

[DirtShooter]

I'd like to know if my mayor is a wacky liberal or dipper. I'm for outing party affiliates.

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by Trochu

Pretty sure Municipal Affairs has had this ability for decades.

And your link seems to be off....

Sorry or the wrong link but here it is in a nutshell,
And if municipal affairs had this lower then why introduce new bill?

The Alberta government has introduced a bill that would grant it sweeping powers over municipalities, including the right to fire councillors, overturn bylaws and postpone elections.

Municipal Affairs Minster Ric McIver says the new powers outlined in Bill 20 are justified to ensure fair elections and accountability from municipal leaders.

“We are doing this in order to protect the provincial interests, by ensuring municipalities are governing affairs that are within their jurisdiction,” he says.

The provincial government’s authority over local bylaws was previously limited to land-use and, more recently, public masking and vaccinations.


“It is our intention that such interventions will only be considered at last resort,” says McIver. “My most fervent wish is that this authority is never ever used.

The province is pointing to the instance of dropping masking regulations during the pandemic, only to have the City of Edmonton institute a bylaw requiring masks. In order to overturn the bylaw, a piece of legislation had to be tabled.

McIver says if that happened when the house was not sitting it could have meant recalling the legislature.

When asked about how the power of cabinet to make changes would be checked in the future, McIver said voters would hold politicians accountable, and if mistakes are made it will come up in future elections.

This ain’t gonna sit well with many Albertans.


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[Drewski Canuck]

Municipalities have no Constitutional rights under the BNA Act, Charter, etc.

Municipalities are solely the creation of Provincial Legislation, and are at the behest and direction of the Ministry of Municipal Affairs under the Municipalities Act.

Of Course the Province can do what it wishes with Municipalities, like it or not.

Municipalities are solely an administrative tool for the Province. Nothing more, and deserving of scrutiny and oversight.

Problem is that the Left has been able to hijack this vehicle of Government Services, and drive their Agendas through it.

Now the Left and the Woke are upset that their power abuse has been identified, and is being taken away from them.

Drewski

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by Drewski Canuck

Municipalities have no Constitutional rights under the BNA Act, Charter, etc.

Municipalities are solely the creation of Provincial Legislation, and are at the behest and direction of the Ministry of Municipal Affairs under the Municipalities Act.

Of Course the Province can do what it wishes with Municipalities, like it or not.

Municipalities are solely an administrative tool for the Province. Nothing more, and deserving of scrutiny and oversight.

Problem is that the Left has been able to hijack this vehicle of Government Services, and drive their Agendas through it.

Now the Left and the Woke are upset that their power abuse has been identified, and is being taken away from them.

Drewski

Then why introduce a new Bill?

Must be something they want to control especially if it doesn’t line up with their political agendas.

Something doesn’t sit right kinda reminds me of our crazy federal government.




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[Dynamic]

If you looked up the definition of irony in the dictionary it would probably be this bill. I think it’s pretty hilarious and on point for Queen Dani. It all seriousness it’s about control at the municipal level, nothing more nothing less.

Funny how it wasn’t campaigned on, the idea of party affiliations was not popular, but nonetheless this gets rammed through. You get who you vote for folks.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by Dynamic

If you looked up the definition of irony in the dictionary it would probably be this bill. I think it’s pretty hilarious and on point for Queen Dani. It all seriousness it’s about control at the municipal level, nothing more nothing less.

Funny how it wasn’t campaigned on, the idea of party affiliations was not popular, but nonetheless this gets rammed through. You get who you vote for folks.

The issue is that people aren't happy with who they elected, namely Gondek.

[Trochu]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

The issue is that people aren't happy with who they elected, namely Gondek.

There was also some issues in Chestermere, were the mayor and several councilors, were fired last year. Maybe some issues were identified that this helps rectify.

[sns2]

Originally Posted by 58thecat

Then why introduce a new Bill?

Must be something they want to control especially if it doesn’t line up with their political agendas.

Something doesn’t sit right kinda reminds me of our crazy federal government.




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Did you ever stop to think this may actually be a type of pre-emptive warning to Edmonton and Calgary councils to stay in their own bloody lanes and do the jobs they were elected to do?

You live in Cold Lake. You don’t even begin to be affected by the policies that have made Edmonton and Calgary into tent cities.

This bill is way overdue, and as has been mentioned, a formalizing of powers that already exist.

[AxeMan]

"Party Affiliations"....lol. Give me a break, it is already a given.

Anyone with any sense at all knows that big city mayors and councillors are mostly Dippers/Liberals (same/same). That is why big cities exist. A socialist colony leaning on socialism supports, and that is why they elect socialist leaders.

Then you get idiots like Nenshi who claim they are centrist....lol. The Purple Prince, a self-branded mix of right-wing blue and left-wing red. Yet, here he is running for leader of the Dippers. He even wears his snotty purple hankie in his shirt pocket while campaigning for the orange. That should enrage the union thumpers, no? Gill McGowan sure don't like it.

This is a political shot by Danni, but also a veiled warning like SNS just said.

[The Cook]

[QUOTE=sns2;4719552]Did you ever stop to think this may actually be a type of pre-emptive warning to Edmonton and Calgary councils to stay in their own bloody lanes and do the jobs they were elected to do?

How can they save the world and all peoplekind if they stay in their lane. Our AH mayor went to Saudi Arabia, talk about carbon footprint went silent with that move but just until he got back.

[Bigwoodsman]

Originally Posted by sns2

Did you ever stop to think this may actually be a type of pre-emptive warning to Edmonton and Calgary councils to stay in their own bloody lanes and do the jobs they were elected to do?

You live in Cold Lake. You don’t even begin to be affected by the policies that have made Edmonton and Calgary into tent cities.

This bill is way overdue, and as has been mentioned, a formalizing of powers that already exist.

The left and woke think they have all the power. McIver is firing a shot across the bow. I imagine the left and woke are now seeing the writing on the wall.

It's not about municipal politicians aling their views with the provincial governments. It's about them staying in their lanes and looking after the core needs of the city they are managing, and leaving their personal agendas at the door.

BW

[gman1978]

It was a matter of time. Counties and Municipalities have been spending like drunken sailors with no accountability to the tax payer. Look at the size of some of these county offices and shops. Raise increases ect and ect. Go look at the wages of the county administrators. When everyone else was cutting back the spending kept happening. They painted a bullseye on themselves.

[CBintheNorth]

Originally Posted by 58thecat

Then why introduce a new Bill?

Must be something they want to control especially if it doesn’t line up with their political agendas.

Something doesn’t sit right kinda reminds me of our crazy federal government.




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Originally Posted by sns2

Did you ever stop to think this may actually be a type of pre-emptive warning to Edmonton and Calgary councils to stay in their own bloody lanes and do the jobs they were elected to do?

You live in Cold Lake. You don’t even begin to be affected by the policies that have made Edmonton and Calgary into tent cities.

This bill is way overdue, and as has been mentioned, a formalizing of powers that already exist.

Ah yes, the City of Cold Lake....
Much like Pinocchio, its councilors fought so hard to be a real city and finally get out from under the province's thumb.
After just one year, their mismanagement and lack of understanding of what becoming a 'city' actually meant had them begging for the county to let them be a 'town' again.
Good on the province for not letting them move back into the basement.

These new municipal councilors and mayors remind me a lot of young, stupid kids that were left at home alone for the weekend.
Well, Mom and Dad are home now. Party's over, and it's time to clean up the mess.
Don't want to?
Then get out.

[prinny53]

Originally Posted by sns2

Did you ever stop to think this may actually be a type of pre-emptive warning to Edmonton and Calgary councils to stay in their own bloody lanes and do the jobs they were elected to do?

You live in Cold Lake. You don’t even begin to be affected by the policies that have made Edmonton and Calgary into tent cities.

This bill is way overdue, and as has been mentioned, a formalizing of powers that already exist.

10000000% Truth

[trapperdodge]

The last thing we need is party politics at the local level.

We need municipal politics to be local politics, unencumbered by the corruption of party politics. Are we going to have whipped votes? Are our councillors going to answer to the Party or the people?

I don't care what Take Back Alberta or Danielle Smith want's on this issue. Party politics at the local level is wrong. There's nothing in it for joe smoke. We're already politiked to death.

[I’d rather be outdoors]

Originally Posted by trapperdodge

We're already politiked to death.

Can’t tell if trolling?? Majorities of city councils are dippers. This just reinforces that there’s no more backroom deals with the lieberals allowed. Like that reasoning thing…they seem to be keen on not letting people vote on it for some reason. Wonder why?

[traderal]

Originally Posted by trapperdodge

The last thing we need is party politics at the local level.

We need municipal politics to be local politics, unencumbered by the corruption of party politics. Are we going to have whipped votes? Are our councillors going to answer to the Party or the people?

I don't care what Take Back Alberta or Danielle Smith want's on this issue. Party politics at the local level is wrong. There's nothing in it for joe smoke. We're already politiked to death.

You obviously are not aware of the number of Counties, towns, and villages that are being questioned by ratepayers and are seeking help from Municipal Affairs.
Obviously someone has to step in, just so happens to be the UCP. Don't remember the Dippers doing anything about it. Mismanagement at the municipal level is nothing new in my lifetime, it's a certain type of people that gravitate to the trough, and many provincial and Federal politicians gained these special "skills" at this level. Good on you if your locals are honest folk, not in my woods they aint.

[Pathfinder76]

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[58thecat]

Originally Posted by sns2

Did you ever stop to think this may actually be a type of pre-emptive warning to Edmonton and Calgary councils to stay in their own bloody lanes and do the jobs they were elected to do?

You live in Cold Lake. You don’t even begin to be affected by the policies that have made Edmonton and Calgary into tent cities.

This bill is way overdue, and as has been mentioned, a formalizing of powers that already exist.

Well first off I don’t live in cold lake and I would tread lightly when allowing provincial governments the right to step in so easily.

I do agree though that Edmonton and Calgary are a mess but this was the people voted in and there are other measures to deal with this.

Just concerned as to where this will stop once given the green light to do so is all.


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[2 Tollers]

Originally Posted by sns2

Did you ever stop to think this may actually be a type of pre-emptive warning to Edmonton and Calgary councils to stay in their own bloody lanes and do the jobs they were elected to do?

You live in Cold Lake. You don’t even begin to be affected by the policies that have made Edmonton and Calgary into tent cities.

This bill is way overdue, and as has been mentioned, a formalizing of powers that already exist.

100 % in agreement

When you have a mayor in Edmonton talking directly to the Feds on making the river valley a National Park --- that is way off side to the municipal mandate.

Similarly the citizens in Edm were shut out on the rezoning bylaw -- a significant item that affected all areas - no vote -- just pushed thru by this council. Major coincidence that this aligned with the Federal requirement for housing money which the Mayor then went to the Feds directly on.

When did the citizens get to vote on declaring the city to be in a state of action on climate emergency -- department of 3 now 22 with no auditable results and $300M spread across departments for climate action which they do not have to report on.

In our ward the NDP - MLA was actively canvassing in the last election for a candidate.

We have a block of left leaning councillors and mayor that gets their way 85% of the time --- including adding to the already inflated budget.

Perhaps small centres do not need the party system but Edmonton and Calgary both need it for people to be more aware of the views of the councillors they are voting for --- and --- in my view it is already here with the dippers taking full advantage of no clear policy by staying under the radar.

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by prinny53

10000000% Truth

No the statement Shane said is not 10000000% truth but close, we too are now dealing with tent cities popping up outside of cold lake on quarter sections which is really upsetting land owners.

All I know is there is a lot of of talk about this and it will be interesting over time to see how this plays out.


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[58thecat]

Originally Posted by trapperdodge

The last thing we need is party politics at the local level.

We need municipal politics to be local politics, unencumbered by the corruption of party politics. Are we going to have whipped votes? Are our councillors going to answer to the Party or the people?

I don't care what Take Back Alberta or Danielle Smith want's on this issue. Party politics at the local level is wrong. There's nothing in it for joe smoke. We're already politiked to death.

This I tend to agree with.


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[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by 58thecat

Well first off I don’t live in cold lake and I would tread lightly when allowing provincial governments the right to step in so easily.

I do agree though that Edmonton and Calgary are a mess but this was the people voted in and there are other measures to deal with this.

Just concerned as to where this will stop once given the green light to do so is all


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When the socialist federal government is legislating away our rights, you preach thinking positive, and waiting for a change in government, but now when the provincial government wants to get the socialist municipal governments under control, you are concerned?

[sns2]

Originally Posted by 2 Tollers

100 % in agreement

When you have a mayor in Edmonton talking directly to the Feds on making the river valley a National Park --- that is way off side to the municipal mandate.

Similarly the citizens in Edm were shut out on the rezoning bylaw -- a significant item that affected all areas - no vote -- just pushed thru by this council. Major coincidence that this aligned with the Federal requirement for housing money which the Mayor then went to the Feds directly on.

When did the citizens get to vote on declaring the city to be in a state of action on climate emergency -- department of 3 now 22 with no auditable results and $300M spread across departments for climate action which they do not have to report on.

In our ward the NDP - MLA was actively canvassing in the last election for a candidate.

We have a block of left leaning councillors and mayor that gets their way 85% of the time --- including adding to the already inflated budget.

Perhaps small centres do not need the party system but Edmonton and Calgary both need it for people to be more aware of the views of the councillors they are voting for --- and --- in my view it is already here with the dippers taking full advantage of no clear policy by staying under the radar.

Spot on bud!

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

When the socialist federal government is legislating away our rights, you preach thinking positive, and waiting for a change in government, but now when the provincial government wants to get the socialist municipal governments under control, you are concerned?

So what happens when another government gets voted in? One we just can’t stand.


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