Go Back   Alberta Outdoorsmen Forum > Main Category > Fly-Fishing Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-30-2012, 03:21 PM
Okotokian's Avatar
Okotokian Okotokian is offline
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Uh, guess? :)
Posts: 26,739
Default Uses for an 8 weight?

So asking this a little late, but... LOL

I have a nice Sage 5 weight rod that I use for various eastern face trout streams, including the one I live on, the Sheep. Been thinking I also wanted something a little heavier for throwing winter streamers on the Bow, and perhaps to use the odd time I go to BC or that yearly winter vacation in Mexico, Cuba, etc.

On the spur of the moment this week I picked up a real nice Orvis Hydros reel (7 to 9 weight) I came across in an Orvis shop while on a business trip. Now I'll pick up a rod. Already pretty much decided on a TFO BVK 8wt. Already read up on it and cast it myself. Nice.

So my questions: What can/should I use the 8 for around here, over my 5? Would it be a more appropriate Bow rod? Other uses? Given my possible uses, would the 8 be the best choice in the 7 to 9 range, given I already have a 5?

Also, I've only got one spool so far. What should I load it with? Floating? Sinking tip? Fellow told me floating was best for the flats, other southern destinations, but what about on the Bow, etc.?

Thanks!
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-30-2012, 03:52 PM
Lefty-Canuck's Avatar
Lefty-Canuck Lefty-Canuck is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Look behind you :)
Posts: 27,779
Default

Alberta pike on the fly....an 8wt is perfect for that.

LC
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-30-2012, 03:54 PM
hal53's Avatar
hal53 hal53 is offline
Gone Hunting
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Lougheed,Ab.
Posts: 12,736
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck View Post
Alberta pike on the fly....an 8wt is perfect for that.

LC
...get a 10WT and smack the Queen of Scheme with it.....
__________________
The future ain't what it used to be - Yogi Berra
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-30-2012, 04:04 PM
Bhflyfisher Bhflyfisher is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Prince George, BC
Posts: 1,190
Default

Like has been mentioned, pike specifically. Its perfect size for bones and redfish. More specifically i'd be using it to cast the big weighted streamers for bulls. With a rio outbound short type 6 sinking line, you've got a wicked set up for casting those big flies and hauling those pigs out of the deep. It could also be used for nymphing the big heavy nymph rigs during stonefly season on the bow.

I feel like an 8wt is almost essential for every angler in alberta to have, along with a 5wt, and a 3wt, you're set for pretty much anything.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-30-2012, 04:36 PM
elnino54's Avatar
elnino54 elnino54 is offline
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Posts: 557
Default

The 8wt BVK is a great choice for a second rod. It actually feels more like a 6wt in your hand. You could easily use it on the bow for chucking streamers, or even use it for a nymphing rod. Ideal for Pike, and would be also be a great rod on either coast for medium sized salmon. It would be a super rod for chasing Bonefish down south in places like Cuba, Mexico, and Belize....
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-30-2012, 04:55 PM
addictedfisherman's Avatar
addictedfisherman addictedfisherman is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Edmonton
Posts: 271
Default

Its great for big lakers, big bulls, Northerns, walleye (fast sink streamers), Salmon in BC and its a great rod weight for small and large mouth bass in BC.
I have two 8 weights and love them both.
__________________
“We are measured more as hunters by the things we choose not to shoot, than by those that we do.”
Keith McCafferty
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-30-2012, 05:54 PM
ÜberFly's Avatar
ÜberFly ÜberFly is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Calgary
Posts: 1,923
Default

Yup, pike, bullies, salmon, bigger lakers...

Mexico I'd stick with at least a 10 wt!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-30-2012, 07:28 PM
crazyfish's Avatar
crazyfish crazyfish is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: On a farm
Posts: 1,572
Default

great fly rod choice ! My 8 wt TFO is my go to favorite for just about everything.
!
__________________
Living for the adventure, enjoying the ride ! BRAD
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-30-2012, 07:53 PM
greylynx greylynx is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 12,078
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Okotokian View Post
So asking this a little late, but... LOL

I have a nice Sage 5 weight rod that I use for various eastern face trout streams, including the one I live on, the Sheep. Been thinking I also wanted something a little heavier for throwing winter streamers on the Bow, and perhaps to use the odd time I go to BC or that yearly winter vacation in Mexico, Cuba, etc.

On the spur of the moment this week I picked up a real nice Orvis Hydros reel (7 to 9 weight) I came across in an Orvis shop while on a business trip. Now I'll pick up a rod. Already pretty much decided on a TFO BVK 8wt. Already read up on it and cast it myself. Nice.

So my questions: What can/should I use the 8 for around here, over my 5? Would it be a more appropriate Bow rod? Other uses? Given my possible uses, would the 8 be the best choice in the 7 to 9 range, given I already have a 5?

Also, I've only got one spool so far. What should I load it with? Floating? Sinking tip? Fellow told me floating was best for the flats, other southern destinations, but what about on the Bow, etc.?

Thanks!
Oko: You bought a reel on a whim.

Until you really need an 8 Wt rod forget about it.

Put that reel on your 5 wt Sage and see how it balances. You might be surprised.

Or sell it
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-30-2012, 09:37 PM
Sundancefisher's Avatar
Sundancefisher Sundancefisher is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Calgary Perchdance
Posts: 18,861
Default

cast my 8 weight for cohos in the chuck
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 11-30-2012, 09:53 PM
onthefly onthefly is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Calgary
Posts: 102
Default

It's been well covered but pike & bull trout around here for me... Also used it for offshore & salmon trips. Havnt had a need for more then a 6wt on the bow personally but i dont chuck a ton of streamers. Having an 8wt in your arsenal is a very benifical option & will put everything on the menu you want to chase.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 12-01-2012, 08:54 AM
Lornce's Avatar
Lornce Lornce is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Calgary
Posts: 2,668
Default

Use mine for Lakers, nice for handling big flies.
__________________
Often I have been exhausted on trout streams, uncomfortable, wet, cold, briar scarred, sunburned, mosquito bitten,
but never, with a fly rod in my hand have I been in a place that was less than beautiful.

My blog - casting on the waters

fishing regulations and facts on fish handling
Fishing Regulations
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 12-01-2012, 10:01 AM
fish gunner fish gunner is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: on a mishn for fishn.
Posts: 8,790
Cool

I am blasphemous, try a spinning reel . Works great for fly under float at distance and getting deep. Flame suit on ... flash, splutter, flash. Honey where did we put the receipt for this thing.lol..
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 12-01-2012, 12:03 PM
bigdaddy37 bigdaddy37 is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Calgary
Posts: 380
Default

I use my 8 for pike in AB and Salmon in BC.

Mexico/cuba...I think a 10 would be a bit better...if only DW would let me bring a rod along!
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 12-01-2012, 09:56 PM
BBT BBT is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Cochrane
Posts: 626
Default

Since you have a 5wt I would go with a 7wt. Then buy an extra spool for the reel and line it with a 9wt. 5-7-9 and you're covered.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 12-02-2012, 03:50 PM
Gust Gust is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 6,408
Default

a heavier weighted rod is nice for those days where the wind is head on at your favorite hole, great for that extra push.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 12-02-2012, 03:56 PM
lone wolf's Avatar
lone wolf lone wolf is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Medicine Hat
Posts: 3,219
Default

Uses for an 8wt ~ many & varied !!

Perfect for Northerns !!
__________________
Participating in a gun buy back program because you think that criminals have too many guns is like having yourself castrated because you think your neighbors have too many kids...
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 12-03-2012, 10:59 AM
Okotokian's Avatar
Okotokian Okotokian is offline
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Uh, guess? :)
Posts: 26,739
Default

Thanks guys. Good info. I do understand a 10wt. might be better for Mexico, etc., but seems like it's probably overkill for the Bow and lakes here, which I will fish more than Mexico. I'll go with the 8wt and if it gets snapped on the flats then I'll see how good this TFO warranty is. LOL
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 12-03-2012, 01:54 PM
Sundancefisher's Avatar
Sundancefisher Sundancefisher is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Calgary Perchdance
Posts: 18,861
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fish gunner View Post
I am blasphemous, try a spinning reel . Works great for fly under float at distance and getting deep. Flame suit on ... flash, splutter, flash. Honey where did we put the receipt for this thing.lol..
Why not use both. I can stand you elitest spin fishermen.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 12-03-2012, 01:55 PM
Sundancefisher's Avatar
Sundancefisher Sundancefisher is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Calgary Perchdance
Posts: 18,861
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Okotokian View Post
Thanks guys. Good info. I do understand a 10wt. might be better for Mexico, etc., but seems like it's probably overkill for the Bow and lakes here, which I will fish more than Mexico. I'll go with the 8wt and if it gets snapped on the flats then I'll see how good this TFO warranty is. LOL
I caught lots of bones...one beauty permit and lots of cudas.

My biggest problem was hitting the end of my rod with a weighted clouser on my second cast...snapping my rod tip. Take a spare rod...even if borrowed.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 12-04-2012, 10:16 PM
Kingfisher's Avatar
Kingfisher Kingfisher is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Calgary
Posts: 1,742
Smile

Quote:
Originally Posted by Okotokian View Post
Thanks guys. Good info. I do understand a 10wt. might be better for Mexico, etc., but seems like it's probably overkill for the Bow and lakes here, which I will fish more than Mexico. I'll go with the 8wt and if it gets snapped on the flats then I'll see how good this TFO warranty is. LOL
I have used an 8 wt for several trips down south. Mexico, Grand Cayman, Cuba and others. It is a great wt to fish for bones. If you catch something larger you'll have a battle. But hey that's what it's all about. I did manage to get a baracuda with mine while down in Cozumel. That was a blast to catch on the fly.

So your 8 wt will do fine. For a line you can just use a standard floating line. As I said I have fished several times down south with just a "normal" Rio floating line. No "special" bone fishing tropical line. I have done quite well and the line is still in use today after about 6 years of use. So it will be just fine in the heat.

The 8 wt will do fine also on the Bow if you decide to go crazy and fish some chuck and duck double clouser set ups. It will also be great for some pike on the fly. Give me a shout in the spring when we can get a boat in the water and we can take my boat out for some spring pike on the fly.

Rob
__________________
Fishing isn't always about catching fish.
Sometimes you just have to take a deep breath, look around, and admire what mother nature gave us.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 12-05-2012, 09:29 AM
Pikebreath Pikebreath is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,257
Default

I like to think of flyrods as similar to golf clubs. To play a complete game, I don't know of any golfers who carry one club around the course (unless it's mini golf!!!!)

Like golf clubs, varying rod weights, actions, lengths etc all fill specific niches / needs / situations where each rod will perform well (or should I say better than other rods). So just like golf, the club / rod you pick is determined by the "game sitiuation" you find yourself in.

That said, if you wish, you can limit yourself to one part of the game (say dry flies and small nymphs for trout) and get away with just one rod,,, but if you want to expand your game, you will need different rods for better results.

An 8 wt rod is a great streamer rod for trout and pike here in Alberta. If you really get into pike fishing and target larger pike with large bulky flies, a 9 or 10 wt rod will find lots of good use of too.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 12-05-2012, 11:05 AM
fish gunner fish gunner is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: on a mishn for fishn.
Posts: 8,790
Cool

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sundancefisher View Post
Why not use both. I can stand you elitest spin fishermen.
Lol I do use both , my suggestion is just to expand the realm of the 8wt . However yes when I use my 20yr old Mitchell 300 I may get a little snobbish.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 12-09-2012, 01:30 PM
Heron Heron is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Sherwood Park
Posts: 221
Smile

I like and agree with your analogy Pikebreath. For quite a few years now I have been assembling a rod a year and I pretty much have things covered 3 through 8. Last winter I assembled a 6wt, 9.5ft Dancraft Five Rivers and really like the slightly slower action for streamers out of a drift boat. I feel more accurate with it than my super fast 8wt. which is pretty important when your passing that nice logjam. I can think of endless situations where the material, weight, length and action of a rod can be perceived as "the rod" for that moment. So there is always another rod that I would like to add. Does it catch me more fish? Nothing worth measuring but it is part of the pastime for me.

Golf? Great game but others can have it.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 12-14-2012, 12:12 PM
32-40win 32-40win is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Near Drumheller
Posts: 6,746
Default

I use a 7wt 4 pc Orvis for pike and big streamers, and shooting heads to get a bit deeper when necessary in ddep holes in rivers or lakes or salt.. I have a TFO Lefty Kreh version, 4 pc, 9wt, that I used at Queen Charlottes and Hakai Pass a lot. I broke a 7wt trying to get a black bass out of the kelp one trip. I really like the 9wt TFO, it worked well with shooting heads from 250-375gr wts. I got down to 80ft with it on slack tide on the 375gr. Heads are nicer to p/u, to recast than a straight sinker for me.
The 7 is nice for trolling with a 200-250gr head on it. It tends to stay down where it is supposed to be, when leeching at dusk.
TFO warranty is excellent. I've whacked the 9wt a few times, and a 10wt that I have. Was 25.00 and a drive over to Springbrook, fixed in moments.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 12-14-2012, 08:09 PM
Pikebreath Pikebreath is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,257
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Heron View Post
Golf? Great game but others can have it.
My feelings exactly,,,,,, everytime I drive by a crowded golf course on the way to my fishing hole, I thank God for golf becuz those guys aren't out fishing!
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 12-15-2012, 12:36 PM
Heron Heron is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Sherwood Park
Posts: 221
Default

Ya golfer told me once, "there is nothing more beautiful than a golf course first thing in the morning when the dew is glistening on the green". I just smiled and nodded. Sorry about the tangent.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:34 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.