“It’s going to be a tough year,” Trudeau warns of gloomy economic forecast for 2023

[bridger2010]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Many people that voted liberal/ndp, are already whining about inflation and taxes, but they blame everyone but Trudeau and the liberals.

Not really different from Cons. Blaming everyone but themselves.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by bridger2010

Not really different from Cons. Blaming everyone but themselves.

How many PMs have ever been found guilty of conflict of interest? And what were the results?

[Grizzly Adams1]

Originally Posted by jungleboy

Trudeau. “It’s going to be a tough year” and we are going to make sure of it.

Says the author of our misfortune.

Grizz

[Sundancefisher]

Originally Posted by bridger2010

Your proposal will just lead to Canada 2.0. The words "public" and "we" are dirty words when backed by the force of the State. So is your appeal to "the greater good". All lead to bloated government.

Privatize everything. No taxes. The only crimes are infringements upon bodily integrity and property rights.

Cool. How do we privatize police, fire, healthcare? What happens if you work at McD and can’t afford your cancer operations? Hospitals have no oversight so they can charge what they want now correct? If you haven’t sent in a cheque to the police… do they still respond to someone breaking into your home. Does this mean you can drive however you want on the highway… any speed? Cut people off who annoy you and just send an extra cheque to the police for the right? Who is paying for the roads? Maintenance, construction? Is it funded on a hope and a prayer? Who pays for border patrol or the military? Who is buying fighter jets? Who is determining rules for entry into Canada? Can mass murderers, rapists, child molesters come for a visit if they donate some cash to Canada?

Who owns the roads? Who owns provincial and federal parks?

If you looked all around the world… right now… which country do you see epitomizes most of what you seek to be a happy guy?

[bridger2010]

Originally Posted by Sundancefisher

Cool. How do we privatize police, fire, healthcare? What happens if you work at McD and can’t afford your cancer operations? Hospitals have no oversight so they can charge what they want now correct? If you haven’t sent in a cheque to the police… do they still respond to someone breaking into your home. Does this mean you can drive however you want on the highway… any speed? Cut people off who annoy you and just send an extra cheque to the police for the right? Who is paying for the roads? Maintenance, construction? Is it funded on a hope and a prayer? Who pays for border patrol or the military? Who is buying fighter jets? Who is determining rules for entry into Canada? Can mass murderers, rapists, child molesters come for a visit if they donate some cash to Canada?

Who owns the roads? Who owns provincial and federal parks?

If you looked all around the world… right now… which country do you see epitomizes most of what you seek to be a happy guy?

Could you at least number your questions so I can respond in an organized fashion?

[Smoky buck]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Many people that voted liberal/ndp, are already whining about inflation and taxes, but they blame everyone but Trudeau and the liberals.

The media does a great job of deflecting people’s attention to any of the small factors at play rather than the Turds over spending, miss management of the economy and tax increases

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by Smoky buck

The media does a great job of deflecting people’s attention to any of the small factors at play rather than the Turds over spending, miss management of the economy and tax increases

And the liberals create a huge distraction, by attacking the law abiding firearms owners.

[Smoky buck]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

And the liberals create a huge distraction, by attacking the law abiding firearms owners.

A lot of those who don’t own firearms and are neutral on the subject don’t even pay attention to the ban. This makes up a large portion of the population. They are just silent on the issue and take no concern about it

The firearms ban is only a big issue for us outdoorsman and the small portion of the public that is truly anti firearms. Both groups are really just a fraction of the population but are very loud about firearms issues

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by Smoky buck

A lot of those who don’t own firearms and are neutral on the subject don’t even pay attention to the ban. This makes up a large portion of the population. They are just silent on the issue and take no concern about it

The firearms ban is only a big issue for us outdoorsman and the small portion of the public that is truly anti firearms. Both groups are really just a fraction of the population but are very loud about firearms issues

When it's all over the news, many people do listen, even if they aren't personally interested. For those still not interested, they throw out legislation concerning electric vehicles, and plastic straws and utensils. And they toss in a stat holiday named after aboriginals. They always find something to try and take people's minds off of the economy, and inflation. And if they run out of distractions, they can bring out another health crisis like covid.

[fordtruckin]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Many people that voted liberal/ndp, are already whining about inflation and taxes, but they blame everyone but Trudeau and the liberals.

Sounds about right!

[Talking moose]

Originally Posted by Smoky buck

A lot of those who don’t own firearms and are neutral on the subject don’t even pay attention to the ban. This makes up a large portion of the population. They are just silent on the issue and take no concern about it

The firearms ban is only a big issue for us outdoorsman and the small portion of the public that is truly anti firearms. Both groups are really just a fraction of the population but are very loud about firearms issues

I was actually surprised after talking with people that don’t hunt, don’t shoot, or participate much in outdoor activities. The majority that I spoke with do know what’s what and are opposed to it or anything else that is an overreach.
There’s hope in the world yet!

[gunluvr]

Originally Posted by bridger2010

Not really different from Cons. Blaming everyone but themselves.

Unless you're another J.Trudeau and blame everything on Harper, how could the Conservative Party be blamed for the current state of afairs? They have practically no say in government policy making. They are merely a watchdog at the present, with little bite, though more people voted Conservative than for any other party in the last election.

[gunluvr]

Originally Posted by bridger2010

Your proposal will just lead to Canada 2.0. The words "public" and "we" are dirty words when backed by the force of the State. So is your appeal to "the greater good". All lead to bloated government.

Privatize everything. No taxes. The only crimes are infringements upon bodily integrity and property rights.

That sounds a lot like Saudi Arabia. Meh, maybe there's worse things than taxes. It just depends what those taxes are used for. The answer is small government. Little infringement on personal freedoms, less regulations on industry and individuals. In short, collect taxes, provide essential services, leave moral people alone and let them weed out immoral ones.

[silver]

When he is talking about tough times, maybe he is talking about his re-election promises.

[Smoky buck]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

I was actually surprised after talking with people that don’t hunt, don’t shoot, or participate much in outdoor activities. The majority that I spoke with do know what’s what and are opposed to it or anything else that is an overreach.
There’s hope in the world yet!

Good to hear

[I’d rather be outdoors]

I’m extremely worried if he considered everything up till now “sunny ways”. My god, there’s no further left he can go without creating a more extreme version of communism.

[Mb-MBR]

Government should not be allowed to govern with a minority, I don't care if its left or right. If you have not won the peoples vote to govern another election should be called till we have one. Until then all parties that have representatives should create a interim government to govern. This way the side deals hopefully will be limited.

Of course, I could be out to lunch on my thinking...

[Bigwoodsman]

Originally Posted by Mb-MBR

Government should not be allowed to govern with a minority, I don't care if its left or right. If you have not won the peoples vote to govern another election should be called till we have one. Until then all parties that have representatives should create a interim government to govern. This way the side deals hopefully will be limited.

Of course, I could be out to lunch on my thinking...

Agreed. Coalition governments aren’t good for anyone but the politicians

BW.

[KC1]

Originally Posted by HyperMOA

Separation. It’s the only solution. You in?

For your information
TIP (The Independence Party) has their AGM on April 1st, 2023

[raab]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Many people that voted liberal/ndp, are already whining about inflation and taxes, but they blame everyone but Trudeau and the liberals.

Haven’t you heard it’s those greedy corporations, because they weren’t greedy before the pandemic.

[6.5 shooter]

Originally Posted by HyperMOA View Post
Separation. It’s the only solution. You in?

Yes I am. And I think the UCP party is sowing the seeds as we speak. Just doing it in very Albertian fashion. Walk slowly and carry a big stick.

[REMINGTON JIM]

Originally Posted by YoteStopper

I'm in. The sooner the better too, although I don't have high hopes for this mess being sorted out that way.

X2 ! Build a Wall if we have too ! RJ

[Grizzly Adams1]

This doesn't sound good.

https://globalnews.ca/news/9377793/n...-closure-cfib/

Grizz

[-JR-]

My Crystal ball say .....next year it will be a great year !

[gunluvr]

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams1

This doesn't sound good.

https://globalnews.ca/news/9377793/n...-closure-cfib/

Grizz

With unprecedented inflation, unprecedented tax increases, rising interest rates, supply chain challenges, and ever increasing enery costs, it should come as no surprise that small businesses are struggling to survive. The average consumer has all the same challenges and just doesn't have the money to spend anymore.
You can blame it all, 100% on Justin Trudeau and the boneheads who continue to vote for him and his blind, senseless woke climate agenda. In 20 years we'll look back on this period as the most futile failure in Canadian history. This is Justin Trudeau's legacy.

[Landshark]

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams1

This doesn't sound good.

https://globalnews.ca/news/9377793/n...-closure-cfib/

Grizz

After 2 1/2 years of pandemic struggles and a prime minister and his henchmen who are completely out of touch and won't even bother asking a few questions of the population today, it's inevitable that we'd be heading down the path of disaster. This is not the time to nail the population with a carbon tax of any sort. Not the time to be increasing the prime lending rate. Not the time to hand out copious quantities of cash to every nation he visits and afford none for us. Of course we're in trouble.

[Bigwoodsman]

Originally Posted by gunluvr

With unprecedented inflation, unprecedented tax increases, rising interest rates, supply chain challenges, and ever increasing enery costs, it should come as no surprise that small businesses are struggling to survive. The average consumer has all the same challenges and just doesn't have the money to spend anymore.
You can blame it all, 100% on Justin Trudeau and the boneheads who continue to vote for him and his blind, senseless woke climate agenda. In 20 years we'll look back on this period as the most futile failure in Canadian history. This is Justin Trudeau's legacy.

You forgot to add the cost of groceries. Likely more people buying guns to hunt their own food coming.


BW

[59whiskers]

Originally Posted by Bigwoodsman

You forgot to add the cost of groceries. Likely more people buying guns to hunt their own food coming.


BW

Better take up archery after the Liberals take firearms away.

[Twisted Canuck]

Originally Posted by 59whiskers

Better take up archery after the Liberals take firearms away.

The Liberals are going to take our guns away? Huh. I mean, sure, they are talking big, and threatening it, but do you think they can pull it off? Hell, they can't even issue passports in a timely manner, and they have had a system in place for 150 years or more for that. They can't procure a new sidearm for the military in less then 25 years. Or subs, frigates, helicopters, fighters, pretty much anything. Oh, or even keep the Forces up to a minimal strength to function.

The RCMP is a Corporate Police force that took two days to find a mass murderer (one that had been reported multiple times to the RCMP for being in possession illegally of firearms, and domestic violence among other things). And now they have spent 2 years dodging accountability for it. And they have openly said they don't have the resources to manage the confiscation regime. Not to mention the pushback from multiple provinces and territories and the First Nations.

I could go on at length about the gross incompetence of anything related to government and it's bureaucrats, it really is a long list (immigration, foreign policy, CRA, the entire Covid debacle with money shoveled out and nobody knows where it went). You get my point.

And these are the guys you think that are going to come and take all the guns away?

I think lots of Canadians will turtle worse then Matthew Tkachuk, and hand them over quick quick, but I don't worry much about them ever coming up with any plan to actually take anything. So, as gun owners, I guess we all get to make our own decision about what to do. Since they are working hard to make us criminals, while letting real criminals out on bail so they can kill young cops, I suspect not everyone is going to be really keen on being disarmed. Just a guess. Not counselling anyone to break any laws.

That's how I see it.

[tullfan]

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams1

Says the author of our misfortune.

Grizz

While he vacations in Jamaica. you know to get away from the tough times. lol.
Tullfan