Toyota Tundra or Ford F-150??

[Bush Critter]

Hello folks I’m in the market for a new truck narrowed it down to the 5 litre F-150 10 speed or the Toyota Tundra 5.7 6 speed. This truck is going to have to tow a 6000# trailer and bushwack through the mud and snow in the fall. Witch one you guys pick and why? Thank you for your input

[Paulydrizzzle]

Originally Posted by Bush Critter

Hello folks I’m in the market for a new truck narrowed it down to the 5 litre F-150 10 speed or the Toyota Tundra 5.7 6 speed. This truck is going to have to tow a 6000# trailer and bushwack through the mud and snow in the fall. Witch one you guys pick and why? Thank you for your input

Definately get the Ford between those two, the new 10 speeds are nice. The tundras are pigs on fuel, hook a trailer up and it would be even worse.
I ended up with a new Ram half-ton, but I would've taken a Ford also. Got a better deal from Dodge

[sns2]

I have had two F150s in a row (2010 & 2016). Both sold because of multiple issues, engine, drivetrain, and on the 2010 incessant rattles that would drive a deaf man batty.

During my last Ford's trips to the shop for repairs, I drove a 3.5 ecoboost with the 10 speed. It is nice. No two ways about it. However, the Tundra wins every single reliability report that has ever been printed on paper. Every last one.

If you buy a truck every few years by all means go with whatever is nicest and most comfortable, because it's under warranty, but if you want one to last, there is no competition.

For anyone to say otherwise they are only fooling themselves.

BTW, the cheapest thing about vehicle ownership is gas.

[Wrongside]

Originally Posted by sns2

If you buy a truck every few years by all means go with whatever is nicest and most comfortable, because it's under warranty, but if you want one to last, there is no competition.

For anyone to say otherwise they are only fooling themselves.

BTW, the cheapest thing about vehicle ownership is gas.

This is the best advice on this thread. Fuel is comparatively cheap and easy to plan for, major repairs not so much.

[titegroup]

Originally Posted by sns2

I have had two F150s in a row (2010 & 2016). Both sold because of multiple issues, engine, drivetrain, and on the 2010 incessant rattles that would drive a deaf man batty.

During my last Ford's trips to the shop for repairs, I drove a 3.5 ecoboost with the 10 speed. It is nice. No two ways about it. However, the Tundra wins every single reliability report that has ever been printed on paper. Every last one.

If you buy a truck every few years by all means go with whatever is nicest and most comfortable, because it's under warranty, but if you want one to last, there is no competition.

For anyone to say otherwise they are only fooling themselves.

BTW, the cheapest thing about vehicle ownership is gas.

Funny how not much mention of Nissan Titan. Just as bad on fuel as Tundra"s & just as reliable with 5.6 endurance motor. Probably just as quick also.

[wind drift]

Check out Malcolm Gladwell’s podcast, “Revisionist History”, Season 1, Episode 8 “Blame Game”. He presents a pretty compelling, evidence based case for the accelerator issue being a case of human error. Nonetheless, Toyota paid out some money, issued a recall and moved on.

[sns2]

Originally Posted by titegroup

Funny how not much mention of Nissan Titan. Just as bad on fuel as Tundra"s & just as reliable with 5.6 endurance motor. Probably just as quick also.

Titan???

[harv3589]

I’m not brand loyal to any of them, owed chev 1500/2500, gmc 1500, Toyota Tundra, Ram Power Wagon and now F-150

Just had to get the Cam phasers, high pressure fuel pump and pcv replaced on my 2018 F150 with 43,000km on it. Hope it continues to drive good now. Not sure when I’m done with this truck what I would go with.

[titegroup]

Originally Posted by sns2

Titan???

What? Never heard of a Nissan Titan. One of the most under considered trucks out there. Although I prefer the older style to the new , I've talked to many titan owners and I get very positive feedback-- except of course on gas mileage/ but that goes for Tundra also. Very reliable & capable( 1/2 tons of course) don't try to make it something it isn't -- like 3/4 ton. One guy had 450,000k on his & said nothing major - just normal replacement maintenance things that wear out. Mine is 2012 with only 55,000k so I got a long way to go-- lucky I found a cream puff used 2yrs. ago. I've had domestics & and after running this truck so far with absolutely no complaints / no rattles-- and much better build quality from what I see-- I won't own another domestic ( nickel & dime me to death) -- POS.

[Bush Critter]

I test drived both, the F-150 seamed was a smooth drive I mean 20 minutes down city streets. The Tundra felt like a 3/4ton. It’s a hard choice I know that the you can’t have it all but now days trucks are an expensive envestment. Hardest to chose the right one....

[Amateur Hunter]

From my personal experience I would definitely suggest Tundra
I bought my Tundra in 2006 (07 model) and currently has 440,000 km and it still runs great ( pulled Trailer and run it in oilpach for 5 years) It's not great on fuel ( I support AB oilpach like new Fords BUT doesn't break down like Ford.
My neighbor has Ford 2018 F150 and it's great on fuel, but only problem is that he is driving loaner vehicle from dealerships ones a month since his truck always breaks down
What I am trying to say is if you want to save on gas buy Ford every few years
Or if you want to save save on repairs ( and save money) buy Toyota

[Bush Critter]

Yeah Ford is getting very innovative with their eco boost’s and 10 speed transmissions. The tundra has been practically unchanged for over 10 years...

[lannie]

Originally Posted by Bush Critter

Yeah Ford is getting very innovative with their eco boost’s and 10 speed transmissions. The tundra has been practically unchanged for over 10 years...

I am not sure I would call Ford innovative. I really believe they have never got it right and keep on trying to get it right. They treat truck manufacturing like a work in progress. The Toyota's have very high resale because they are just plainly much better trucks.

[Smoky buck]

Toyota is way more reliable then the Ford but the tundra likes to drink fuel

[Hooter]

Originally Posted by Bush Critter

Yeah Ford is getting very innovative with their eco boost’s and 10 speed transmissions. The tundra has been practically unchanged for over 10 years...

That’s because it works..... crappy on fuel, but a winner in most other categories, particularly reliability.

[madatter]

Originally Posted by Bush Critter

Yeah Ford is getting very innovative with their eco boost’s and 10 speed transmissions. The tundra has been practically unchanged for over 10 years...

Drivetrain is identical,interior was changed in 2015 I believe.
The powertrain should be bulletproof after 10 years.
The interior is dated compared to anything else out there....
The 5.7L is very thirsty,the F150 much better in that regard.
I have a 17 F150 with the Ecoboost,so far no major issues.....my 11 F150 was very good as well.
I value some fuel economy,and I really dont like the interior of the Tundra.
In 2021/2022 tho Ill be looking hard at the newer Tundra.

F150 has alot of configurations with engines,options and cabs...

[fordtruckin]

Originally Posted by Amateur Hunter

From my personal experience I would definitely suggest Tundra
I bought my Tundra in 2006 (07 model) and currently has 440,000 km and it still runs great ( pulled Trailer and run it in oilpach for 5 years) It's not great on fuel ( I support AB oilpach like new Fords BUT doesn't break down like Ford.
My neighbor has Ford 2018 F150 and it's great on fuel, but only problem is that he is driving loaner vehicle from dealerships ones a month since his truck always breaks down
What I am trying to say is if you want to save on gas buy Ford every few years
Or if you want to save save on repairs ( and save money) buy Toyota

Interesting since my 2018 has been in the shop for an oil change and carpet recall. 10 speed with eco boost and max tow is awesome for towing anything a half ton is meant to tow. My 2001 f150 has been in the shop for an alternator and other than that regular maintenance like spark plugs, brakes and shocks. I’m sitting at 203000 miles so what’s that 324800 km give or take? I never owned a Toyota truck just 2 of their cars over the years. I’ve owned 4 ford trucks and none of them owed me anything when I was done with them. First was an 89 f150 no idea how many times the odometer rolled over no major issues second was a 96 ranger with 320000 miles with a fuel pump and alternator and I still own my 01 and 18 f150.

To the op, try them both and see which fits your intended use better. I would take advice given by internet hero’s with a grain of salt when I’m making a purchase of 30000$+. Everyone says Toyota reliability yet I’ve never had any of the problems people say are common with fords and that’s pretty much all I’ve owned.

[sns2]

Originally Posted by Bush Critter

I test drived both, the F-150 seamed was a smooth drive I mean 20 minutes down city streets. The Tundra felt like a 3/4ton. It’s a hard choice I know that the you can’t have it all but now days trucks are an expensive envestment. Hardest to chose the right one....

And that is exactly why you choose the most reliable one. Both times, I cheaped out because the Ford was a little cheaper. I can't tell you how many times I regretted it.

Again, I will say that the cheapest part of a truck is the gas. Toyota also has a 4.6L too.

[ram crazy]

Originally Posted by sns2

And that is exactly why you choose the most reliable one. Both times, I cheaped out because the Ford was a little cheaper. I can't tell you how many times I regretted it.

Again, I will say that the cheapest part of a truck is the gas. Toyota also has a 4.6L too.

It’s all in how you look after them. I’ve never had any issues with Fords. After reading your test drive thread I can see why you’d have issues with any vehicle. I owned an eco boost and it pulled as good as my diesels, just a lot cheaper to buy then the diesel. I currently own a 5.0l and it pulls my 34ft. trailer just fine.

[riden]

Originally Posted by Bush Critter

I test drived both, the F-150 seamed was a smooth drive I mean 20 minutes down city streets. The Tundra felt like a 3/4ton. It’s a hard choice I know that the you can’t have it all but now days trucks are an expensive envestment. Hardest to chose the right one....

But, my 2017 Tundra is the bomb on the gravel roads I run daily. Smooth, great handling and fantastic on washboard.

[338Bluff]

My work truck F150 blew all the coolant hoses and has been in the shop for nearly a month. Apparently there was so many going during the cold snap they couldn't keep up. Toyota is hands down one of the most reliable. Its going to burn $650-750 more per year than an Eco. Hook up a trailer to either and I think you will find they suck about the same. You can have Eco or Boost but not both.

I drive a Chev which incidentally is also in the shop waiting on parts that are not built yet lol.

[Wrongside]

https://globalnews.ca/news/5003134/f...rts-available/

[Skytop B]

If your going to tow get the 3.5 Ecoboost. I have a 2017 5.0 with 355 gears and the wife has a 2016 3.5EB with 331 gears, I tried to trade her but she would have none of it...

[CaberTosser]

Ford if you really, really like the service lounge at your dealership.

Toyota if you prefer to be anywhere else.


What is your time worth during vehicle downtime? What happens when that downtime is not work downtime but scarce leisure downtime.

I had a childhood with a Dad who had a knack for running unreliable vehicles or somehow breaking reliable vehicles and we had many a ruined holiday. This has heavily influenced my vehicle choices & maintenance and pre-holiday vehicle prep right down to packing a well-appointed tool kit.

[Stinky Buffalo]

Originally Posted by 338Bluff

Hook up a trailer to either and I think you will find they suck about the same. You can have Eco or Boost but not both.

And this is my experience, having owned both.

One reason I think the Tundras have a reputation for thirst is the relatively small fuel tank (larger fuel tanks are now available in the newer trucks). I often carry extra fuel with me when I'm out exploring.

When I drive ours like an old man, I get fairly respectable mileage.

I did like the amenities of the F150, even little things, like the fact that I can store stuff under the rear seat (used to keep boxes of the kid's books and toys there, not to mention it's a good place to stash your rifles). On the Tundra, I'd be lucky to be able to slip a first-aid kit and tow rope there.

The supercrew limits you to a short box on the Tundra, although it is deeper than the short-box F150, so you can still store a fair amount in there. Just a pain if you want to carry a larger quad.

Also, the information display is disappointing on the Tundra; so much usable space wasted with cartoony icons, meaning you have to scroll through screens to get what the Fords display on one page. But that's just me being nitpicky.

And no integrated brake controller on our Tundra... SMH!

I love how the eco-boosted F150 tows - it seemed to need to shift down less on the uphills. Of course, the Tundra tows amazingly as well. Off-road capability is terrific (although I keep wrecking my skid plate - will get a proper one for it shortly).

Reliability - The Tundra has been amazing. The F150, well, we got rid of it after less than two years due to issues.

[elkhunter11]

Unless you need a new truck right now, I would wait for the new Tundra. The Tundra has been the most reliable of the pickups by far on any of the sites that keep records for long term reliability. The Tundra will not ride as smooth, but it won't bottom on rough roads like the Ford will either. The only real knock on the Tundra is fuel economy,and that is supposedly being addressed with the new redesign. I drove a 2007 Tundra since new, and just sold it a week ago, when I decided to go to a mid sized truck. During the time that I owned it, I replaced the battery after 10 years, and the front brakes a year ago, other than that, just regular maintenance for over 12 years.

[58thecat]

f-150.

[Bush Critter]

Yeah Toyota supposedly has a new tundra in the works for 2020. The 5.7 seams to be a thirsty engine. It’s a hard hit with the 140 liter gas tank when the price of gas hits 1.30 this summer like every summer...

[Mastercaller]

Originally Posted by Bush Critter

Hello folks I’m in the market for a new truck narrowed it down to the 5 litre F-150 10 speed or the Toyota Tundra 5.7 6 speed. This truck is going to have to tow a 6000# trailer and bushwack through the mud and snow in the fall. Witch one you guys pick and why? Thank you for your input

The only the Tundra will not pass is a gas station. With that said, had one and unbelievably tough. We run Fords at work and they are not holding up to the wear and tear of operating in Central AB. Everything from steering lock ups to heater cords not working they have been spending more time in the shop than on the road

[REMINGTON JIM]

Originally Posted by Bush Critter

Hello folks I’m in the market for a new truck narrowed it down to the 5 litre F-150 10 speed or the Toyota Tundra 5.7 6 speed. This truck is going to have to tow a 6000# trailer and bushwack through the mud and snow in the fall. Witch one you guys pick and why? Thank you for your input

I work at FORD never BUY a 150 ! Get the TUNDRA- Much Better TRUCK !