The love of One or the Joy of Many

[lone wolf]

Originally Posted by chuck

So you are taking a falsehood through rumour by your own admission. And I have told you multiple times here it is a falsehood. Something you don't know for sure and continue to use it as a form of back handed attack and it is beneath your character to knowingly spread a lie?

You are a jewel.

Originally Posted by Rman

What, exactly, is it that I don't know for sure?

PM me if you wish. I would more than like to get this straightened out.


R.

Great idea Rman, I am sure I am not the only one wishing you guys would take your antics offline ....... you are contributing absolutely nothing to this thread.

[Thunder/FX]

Originally Posted by lone wolf

Great idea Rman, I am sure I am not the only one wishing you guys would take your antics offline ....... you are contributing absolutely nothing to this thread.

WELL SAID
Was a good thread until...

[lone wolf]

Originally Posted by Thunder/FX

WELL SAID
Was a good thread until...

It was a good thread

.... and some people wonder why perfectly good threads get locked and/or deleted

[gopher]

Originally Posted by chuck

I have a father, uncles, grandfather, and great uncles that were all accomplished rifleman. All were by and large single rifle owners.

Two different ways of looking at the same sort of thing...

It would make an entertaing thread, what it takes to become a rifleman!

[Kurt505]

Originally Posted by gopher

Never ever met a one rifle man that was a rifleman.

From the sounds of it, you wouldn't know what a real rifleman is in the first place.

Unless of course your idea of a rifleman is whoever can own the most guns. In that case anyone can buy into that club.

It takes a real rifleman to make that rifle do magic, and if you had ever seen one first hand you would know what I'm talking about.

[gopher]

Oh BTW Chuck I am headed over to the hunting knife thread to post a picture.

[JustBen]

I've been slowly trying to thin my collection - living by the motto "quality over quantity." Unfortunately, this just means more good guns and fewer poor ones.

I'd like to think that within the next year I will be down to two hunting rifles, but again, I found another deal two days ago...

[Rman]

Originally Posted by lone wolf

Great idea Rman, I am sure I am not the only one wishing you guys would take your antics offline ....... you are contributing absolutely nothing to this thread.

You don't have to shout.
PM's are being exchanged. I take it you haven't read much that I have posted? Nothing? Come on now!

It's nice to be popular, but it's getting to be a bit much. Judged by few, but carried by many?

R.

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by Rman

If a fella continuously hunts the same areas, for the same species, and then places limits on distances and other shoot or don't shoot scenarios, then why not hunt with just one rifle?

Again, if it works, great. Just know that it doesn't work for everyone who doesn't have those limits in place.

R.

I hunt multiple species and am not limited to shorter ranges or longer ranges .
I also hunt from Medicine Hat up to Ft. Chip
I can take any never of my rifles out buy don't see the " need"
Cat

[lone wolf]

Originally Posted by Rman

You don't have to shout.R.

"Shouting" is ALL CAPITALS. Just added bold text for emphasis

[Mateo]

I'm a one hunting rifle guy. I wanted something special. So I researched and researched and then researched some more. What I ended up with was a budget custom. I got a Remington 700 SPS stainless ( older one with walker trigger) and sold off the barrel, bolt, trigger, and bottom metal. Ordered a PTG bolt to my specs. Straight handle miniM16 extractor, fluted, small light weight firing pin.
Had the receiver blueprinted in a trade for some woodworking. Ordered a 6.5mm ,gain twist, cut rifled barrel from Ron Smith of RKS. Was running low on funds so I ordered a Boyd's stock. ( will be replaced with a manners T5 one day)
Got a 40X trigger and tuned it. PTG bottom metal and AICS mag. Leupold steel picatinny rail, vortex precision matched rings holding the Vortex viper PST 6-24x50 ffp. Now the fun part. I had the barrel put on and chambered by Henry Rempel. It's chambered in 6.5mm Sherman Shortmag. A true short action cartridge off of the SAUM case. The recoil is extraordinarily easy on the shoulder. It's a long smooth pulse. I have no problem shooting an elk with this. In fact, I yearn for it! In fact the sectional density of a 140 6.5 bullet is the same as a 210 gr 30 cal. And I plan to use 160 gr 6.5 bullets for elk. The accuracy with 140 and 150 gr bullets and VV N570 powder has been awesome.

[Mateo]

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[Rman]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

I hunt multiple species and am not limited to shorter ranges or longer ranges .
I also hunt from Medicine Hat up to Ft. Chip
I can take any never of my rifles out buy don't see the " need"
Cat

I don't think taking a longer range poke at a moose with a 303 British would be considered responsible?

The limitations mentioned, very much apply to all of us, depending on what scenario we find ourselves in. Some of limitations depend on the shooter, and beyond a shadow of a doubt, some of them depend on the rifle, optics, bullet selection, and so on.
If I wanted to put myself on a pedestal, and loudly exclaim that I do all of my hunting with a open sighted Krag, and that I am very successful in my endeavours, it would be generally understood that I must be making compromises in order to do so? That I must watch a lot of game walk away because I don't have a scope? That I must watch a lot of game walk away that is too far away? That I must pass on raking type shots? Or take boiler room shots only?
This above things a true rifleman do not make. They make men that understand their own limitations, and the limitations of their equipment, and they also make men that make, or made do with what they have.

R.

[Mateo]

I had done a 1 hole 3 shot group the time before and tried the much harder 5 shot group. Nailed it! Largest groups are at .6 moa right now with majority under .5" this has been confirmed at distance to 400 yards. Knowing one rifle really well is what floats my boat. Everytime I pick it up I feel assured of what it will do because of the hundreds of rounds I've fired through it.

[Bergerboy]

Originally Posted by Rman

I don't think taking a longer range poke at a moose with a 303 British would be considered responsible?

The limitations mentioned, very much apply to all of us, depending on what scenario we find ourselves in. Some of limitations depend on the shooter, and beyond a shadow of a doubt, some of them depend on the rifle, optics, bullet selection, and so on.
If I wanted to put myself on a pedestal, and loudly exclaim that I do all of my hunting with a open sighted Krag, and that I am very successful in my endeavours, it would be generally understood that I must be making compromises in order to do so? That I must watch a lot of game walk away because I don't have a scope? That I must watch a lot of game walk away that is too far away? That I must pass on raking type shots? Or take boiler room shots only?
This above things a true rifleman do not make. They make men that understand their own limitations, and the limitations of their equipment, and they also make men that make, or made do with what they have.

R.

Why wouldn't you just walk up to the moose?

[sns2]

Originally Posted by Mateo

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Ya, that's all fine and dandy, but you only fired one shot and you didn't even hit the bullseye

Good work, Mateo! Sounds like a good rig.

[fish_e_o]

Originally Posted by Rman

I don't think taking a longer range poke at a moose with a 303 British would be considered responsible?

show me a moose and i'll poke it with my 308. i see no real difference

[Pathfinder76]

I've shot game out past 550 yds prone with a run of the mill factory 270 Winchester in an aftermarket synthetic stock and the very same season shot another animal in the head at 20 yds in heavy timber off hand because it was the only shot I had. I think my next longest shot was with a Savage 99 308 and a 4X scope.

I cannot think of a single solitary big game animal I have taken that I could not have taken with any other big game rifle I have owned over the years. It is quite simply not that hard.

[Rman]

Originally Posted by chuck

I've shot game out past 550 yds prone with a run of the mill factory 270 Winchester in an aftermarket synthetic stock and the very same season shot another animal in the head at 20 yds in heavy timber off hand because it was the only shot I had. I think my next longest shot was with a Savage 99 308 and a 4X scope.

I cannot think of a single solitary big game animal I have taken that I could not have taken with any other big game rifle I have owned over the years. It is quite simply not that hard.

"If I wanted to put myself on a pedestal, and loudly exclaim that I do all of my hunting with a open sighted Krag, and that I am very successful in my endeavours, it would be generally understood that I must be making compromises in order to do so? That I must watch a lot of game walk away because I don't have a scope? That I must watch a lot of game walk away that is too far away? That I must pass on raking type shots? Or take boiler room shots only?
This above things a true rifleman do not make. They make men that understand their own limitations, and the limitations of their equipment, and they also make men that make, or made do with what they have"

Last time I checked, a scoped 270 isn't and open sighted Krag.

The point is, as above, again, is limitations. The guy with the one rifle has them. The guy a couple more rifles, if done properly, should have a couple less.

R.

[Bergerboy]

Originally Posted by Rman

"If I wanted to put myself on a pedestal, and loudly exclaim that I do all of my hunting with a open sighted Krag, and that I am very successful in my endeavours, it would be generally understood that I must be making compromises in order to do so? That I must watch a lot of game walk away because I don't have a scope? That I must watch a lot of game walk away that is too far away? That I must pass on raking type shots? Or take boiler room shots only?
This above things a true rifleman do not make. They make men that understand their own limitations, and the limitations of their equipment, and they also make men that make, or made do with what they have"

Last time I checked, a scoped 270 isn't and open sighted Krag.

The point is, as above, again, is limitations. The guy with the one rifle has them. The guy a couple more rifles, if done properly, should have a couple less.

R.

Are you suggesting that multiple rifles should be carried in the field for different situations that may arise? Why could one rifle that works better say on longer range shots on heavier game not be used to make close range shots on smaller game? Help me down this rabbit hole please.

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by Rman

I don't think taking a longer range poke at a moose with a 303 British would be considered responsible?



R.

Maybe in an open sighted Enfield , but on modern action with an accurate rifle I see no issue ,if the person can accurately make the shot ,
Cat

[buckbrushoutdoors]

Originally Posted by Rman

"If I wanted to put myself on a pedestal, and loudly exclaim that I do all of my hunting with a open sighted Krag, and that I am very successful in my endeavours, it would be generally understood that I must be making compromises in order to do so? That I must watch a lot of game walk away because I don't have a scope? That I must watch a lot of game walk away that is too far away? That I must pass on raking type shots? Or take boiler room shots only?
This above things a true rifleman do not make. They make men that understand their own limitations, and the limitations of their equipment, and they also make men that make, or made do with what they have"

Last time I checked, a scoped 270 isn't and open sighted Krag.

The point is, as above, again, is limitations. The guy with the one rifle has them. The guy a couple more rifles, if done properly, should have a couple less.

R.

You clearly haven't done much hunting before, maybe read about it on the Internet? Seems you are looking for an argument instead of a discussion like everyone else is trying to do. Step away from the keyboard.

[Pathfinder76]

I don't know ANYONE who hunts with more than one rifle at a time.

[Bergerboy]

Originally Posted by chuck

I don't know ANYONE who hunts with more than one rifle at a time.

Hence the gaping holes in the multiple rifle theory.

[blackpowderrlw]

It was written somewhere years ago Beware the man with one gun, he probably knows how to use it. Lee

[Rman]

Originally Posted by buckbrushoutdoors

You clearly haven't done much hunting before, maybe read about it on the Internet? Seems you are looking for an argument instead of a discussion like everyone else is trying to do. Step away from the keyboard.

If that is all you get from what I have written, then I really don't know what else to say.

I don't see anything in what I have written in the quote you pulled as being argumentative? Facts are facts.
In fact, from your tone and words, clearly it is you that is looking for the argument?

Remember this? I posted it on the first page:

For every situation that one feels it will work, there will be equal situations where one feels it doesn't.

Bottom line is, if it works for you, and you're happy with it, does anything else really matter?

Really argumentative, eh?

R.

[Twisted Canuck]

I was going to post to this thread as initially I found it interesting and in good taste.....now I'm just posting to answer the OP.

I have a couple rifles I use for hunting, my 7mm08 gets used 80% of the time and it is the one rifle I won't part with. I also have a .300 WM and a 7mm RemMag that I have hunted with. I'm quite happy and comfortable with any of them, but don't generally feel the need to carry the magnums (unless the kids are along and they carry the 7mm08). All these are M700s btw. I also have a beauty M70 FW that I use for coyote in .22-250. I don't plan on collecting any more hunting rifles as the selection I have is more than adequate for anything I'd hunt.

My collecting problem is fine revolvers. You can fit more of them in a safe. I shoot maybe a quarter of what I have collected, the rest I just enjoy holding, cleaning, and looking at.

[Bergerboy]

Originally Posted by Rman

For every situation that one feels it will work, there will be equal situations where one feels it doesn't.

R.

Can you describe a situation whereas a rifle that is best suited for a long range shot on a large elk or grizzly be unsuitable for a 50m antelope?

[Thunder/FX]

[QUOTE=Rman;3087287]If that is all you get from what I have written, then I really don't know what else to say.




Great! then say no more...
You have ruined another great thread...

[Rman]

[QUOTE=Thunder/FX;3087314]

Originally Posted by Rman

If that is all you get from what I have written, then I really don't know what else to say.




Great! then say no more...
You have ruined another great thread...

"Bottom line is, if it works for you, and you're happy with it, does anything else really matter?"

Yup. Ruinous.

R.