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RZR · #1 11-21-2018, 04:51 AM

What the hell gives, everyone thinks they are shooting a hybrid deer. Do people not know what the difference is between a whitetail and a mule deer, or is this the new “X” generation.

58thecat · #2 11-21-2018, 06:08 AM

Just a little misunderstanding is all.....education through communication.....has been going on for many many generations.

ESOXangler · #3 11-21-2018, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by RZR

What the hell gives, everyone thinks they are shooting a hybrid deer. Do people not know what the difference is between a whitetail and a mule deer, or is this the new “X” generation.

Leaseholders are entitled whiners!

There now I trolled you...

Hunter4ever12 · #4 11-21-2018, 06:16 AM

Relax...no one said they shot one. In all the threads they were asking for opinions. Go back to bed.

last minute · #5 11-21-2018, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Hunter4ever12

Relax...no one said they shot one. In all the threads they were asking for opinions. Go back to bed.

X2 agreed

RZR · #6 11-21-2018, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ESOXangler

Leaseholders are entitled whiners!

There now I trolled you...

Who's a leaseholder, are you? Because I'm not.

RZR · #7 11-21-2018, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Hunter4ever12

Relax...no one said they shot one. In all the threads they were asking for opinions. Go back to bed.

Looking at all the pics of the other threads why would one ask such a ludicrous question.

KegRiver · #8 11-21-2018, 07:32 AM

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Looking at all the pics of the other threads why would one ask such a ludicrous question.

Why not ask? Who does it hurt it it's not a hybrid?

They say a picture is worth a thousand words but a Deer bouncing across the field ahead of you is worth 100,000.

You get one or two prospectives of a dead animal, the poster had that many or more of the living animal plus 360 prospectives up close and personal.

The way an animal moves may suggest a specific species. Flaired rump hair can make a Whitetail look a bit like a Mulie. Odd horn shape, a pale face, lighting, there are lots of things that might make a hunter wonder.

So why not ask? Are you so skilled that you never wonder?

Must be nice to be an better then scientists who sometimes have to turn to dna to determine if an animal is one species or another.

Cpetersen4 · #9 11-21-2018, 07:44 AM

I agree with the op, there has been 3 threads now in 1-2 days about this and everyone of them is clear as day weather it’s a wt or Muley. If these hunters are unsure why are they even shooting or even out hunting, you should be educated enough to know what your shooting at. It makes me wonder how many Muleys get shot and tagged with a general wt tag because there a 3x3/3x4 buck. If you cannot tell the difference you should NOT be in the field hunting.

last minute · #10 11-21-2018, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by RZR

Looking at all the pics of the other threads why would one ask such a ludicrous question.

My my aren't we a little touchy

what is so ludicrous about the question

let's hear it if you care to share.

catnthehat · #11 11-21-2018, 08:08 AM

It never hurts to ask an honest question .
However people tend to complicate things at times .
To me I don’t Care, check antler length , check tail, all good? BOOM!

Cat

501s · #12 11-21-2018, 11:05 AM

If people didn’t post questions and pictures what’s the point of even having a forum? I read all these posts and while the answers were obvious to me and I liked reading everyone’s replies as well. At least it gives everyone something to talk about.

I say be thankful it’s not a “can someone give me an Elk spot” post.

boomer · #13 11-21-2018, 11:21 AM

Have a Snickers

338Bluff · #14 11-21-2018, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Hunter4ever12

Relax...no one said they shot one. In all the threads they were asking for opinions. Go back to bed.

The pictures in the threads were so obviously mule deer or whitetail it is concerning that maybe misidentification is happening in other cases.
It is a valid concern.

tracker · #15 11-21-2018, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 58thecat

Just a little misunderstanding is all.....education through communication.....has been going on for many many generations.

This is the best response for a lot of the threads here. Not everyone is a seasoned veteran of the hunt or gets the chance to visit every corner of this great Province.

Pathfinder76 · #16 11-21-2018, 12:23 PM

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This is the best response for a lot of the threads here. Not everyone is a seasoned veteran of the hunt or gets the chance to visit every corner of this great Province.

But they should know what in the world they are killing before they do so.

FinnDawg · #17 11-21-2018, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RZR

What the hell gives, everyone thinks they are shooting a hybrid deer. Do people not know what the difference is between a whitetail and a mule deer, or is this the new “X” generation.

Yea maybe the Gen X need to get their eyes checked, some of them are getting old now

Generation X: Born 1965 – 1976.

Howard Hutchinson · #18 11-21-2018, 01:08 PM

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Yea maybe the Gen X need to get their eyes checked, some of them are getting old now

Generation X: Born 1965 – 1976.

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Watch it Finndog. I'm a Gen X..and didn't even know it

last minute · #19 11-21-2018, 01:18 PM

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Yea maybe the Gen X need to get their eyes checked, some of them are getting old now

Generation X: Born 1965 – 1976.

Dam I fit the bill of gen x and in need of a eye check up

what a ride it's been so far

58thecat · #20 11-21-2018, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by chuck

But they should know what in the world they are killing before they do so.

Mistakes are made and through effective, efficient communication, sharing experiences etc will only lesson these mistakes.

Mentorship comes in many forms, sometimes and it will start with social media, not all are blessed to have that person right by thier side and the way the world is going this is it....

RZR · #21 11-21-2018, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by FinnDawg

Yea maybe the Gen X need to get their eyes checked, some of them are getting old now

Generation X: Born 1965 – 1976.

You missed it totally, the new generation is the X gender. It's the female, male or X gender.

pikeman06 · #22 11-21-2018, 05:04 PM

They just wanna show someone their little runt buck because I hope they are first timers lookin for a little media attention and not seasoned alberta deer hunters. Look at the back end-end of story. I've shot whiteys with big ears and forked horns that if you held it just right by gawd that might just be a mule. I've shot mules that if you hold the skull just so it's whitetail main beam and it's got a brow tine even but it's a mule. I think a doe with horns is more common than a mature bona fide hybrid buck. Just my 2 cents I lived my life in whitetail and mule country make sure you see the back end because some smaller mule bucks look like whitetails head on that's why we find them shot and left all over this east central area every year.

FinnDawg · #23 11-21-2018, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Howard Hutchinson

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Watch it Finndog. I'm a Gen X..and didn't even know it

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Dam I fit the bill of gen x and in need of a eye check up

what a ride it's been so far

Oh don’t feel to bad fellas, I’m just a filthy over entitled millennial

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You missed it totally, the new generation is the X gender. It's the female, male or X gender.

Hm, then I think you slipped up on your original post. Must be getting old.

KBF · #24 11-21-2018, 05:47 PM

For what it’s worth I saw 2 mule deer bucks and 1 whitetail give a pretty good chase to a mule deer doe today, or maybe it was a hybrid doe so thats why they were all confused

KegRiver · #25 11-21-2018, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by chuck

But they should know what in the world they are killing before they do so.

I take it you have never dropped a Deer you were 100 percent sure was a Mulie and then had a moment of doubt when you saw it up close?
Lucky you.

I've been lucky too, but I've hunted long enough to know that it can happen to anyone.
And I learned something today. I had always thought a hybrid would be obvious. Mulie horns and a Whitetail butt, or the opposite.
Turns out it's not nearly that simple.

I have seen a couple of Mulies with one side that looked sorta like it could belong on a Whitetail. I often wondered if a few of those might have had a bit of Whitetail blood in them.

But I've twice seen Moose with three antlers. A normal antler on one side and twins on the other side so I know that antlers can get real weird.
So that left me with just the back end for positive identification.

Oh I know the face and ears are different but they can be screened by brush as can other features including the tail.
So where does that leave me?

Well it turns out the way a deer moves is also a somewhat reliable indicator of species. I did not know that. Yeah I knew they sometimes moved differently but I did not know that the gait is distinctive enough to use as one clue in identifying the species.

So I learned something about identifying Deer that I did not know.

Now I'm a few months shy of my 65 birthday. I got my first gun when I was ten. I've been hunting since then and I'm still learning.

The day I know so much that I think I can preach to others about their lack of knowledge is the day I need to put my guns up for sale and get the heck out of the bush.

Talking moose · #26 11-21-2018, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KegRiver

Well it turns out the way a deer moves is also a somewhat reliable indicator of species. I did not know that. Yeah I knew they sometimes moved differently but I did not know that the gait is distinctive enough to use as one clue in identifying the species.

Really? You must mean when walking. Because when running it’s unmistakable.

Cpetersen4 · #27 11-21-2018, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KegRiver

I take it you have never dropped a Deer you were 100 percent sure was a Mulie and then had a moment of doubt when you saw it up close?
Lucky you.

I've been lucky too, but I've hunted long enough to know that it can happen to anyone.
And I learned something today. I had always thought a hybrid would be obvious. Mulie horns and a Whitetail butt, or the opposite.
Turns out it's not nearly that simple.

I have seen a couple of Mulies with one side that looked sorta like it could belong on a Whitetail. I often wondered if a few of those might have had a bit of Whitetail blood in them.

I have always been 100% sure of what I shot and when I walk up what it is, never any doubting, as there shouldn’t be. I find it so unbelievable how many people are having problems identifying the two deer apart, new hunter or not. Where I do most of my hunting 8/10 Muleys are 3x3/3x4 and never once have I thought it was a wt or hybrid. I have seen wt with forks and Muleys without, this does not mean hybrid

last minute · #28 11-22-2018, 05:19 AM

Man you really got to love the internet so many experts always doing it right

keep up the good work we can learn from you all.

58thecat · #29 11-22-2018, 06:11 AM

Well if you spend enough time out and about your going to see it all eventually, boom, come to my location got a great buck.....ahhhh wrong species there fella....CO confiscated it and wrote a ticket along with a one year suspension.....boom, clean miss....walk over to see what was shot after a push...doe.....no clean miss.....yup....even seen a few birds not identified correctly too.....ahhhh perfection must be a great place to be.....

RZR · #30 11-22-2018, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by KegRiver

I take it you have never dropped a Deer you were 100 percent sure was a Mulie and then had a moment of doubt when you saw it up close?
Lucky you.

Nope