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Old 01-04-2018, 10:51 AM
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Please show us the video footage of the snared coyote, It would be very interesting.

There is a thread in the Hunting forum about two snared dogs which seemed to be fairly reported although Nube thought the articles were total BS because a snare was made wrong? There seemed to be snaring restrictions where one dog was caught and the second dog was caught in a snare with a spring device. Is this the one that goes "splat" with instant kills? One dog [guard dog] had traveled a mile which is much too far and the second was with it's owner.

MS - your lesson on cyanide poisoning has nothing to do with the accidental snaring of dogs. I asked for input if you had any?
Would like to see snaring stopped and if not what do you want?
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Old 01-04-2018, 11:01 AM
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There is a thread in the Hunting forum about two snared dogs which seemed to be fairly reported although Nube thought the articles were total BS because a snare was made wrong?
I agree with Nube as I've never seen a bulb shaped snare unless it's hooked up wrong plus that snare has not ever caught anything, that ever struggled as their is no kinks or distortion in the cable!
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Old 01-04-2018, 01:11 PM
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I agree with Nube as I've never seen a bulb shaped snare unless it's hooked up wrong plus that snare has not ever caught anything, that ever struggled as their is no kinks or distortion in the cable!
rcmc - I mainly would like to see some regulations put in place which would give the public and their pets some protection from irresponsible trappers. There is no control now. I would also like to know more about the humane aspects of snaring because much of what I hear from trappers does not agree with my own experiences. Supposedly the new spring locking snares [which I haven't used] have made them into instant killers according to the "experts" but I've heard of problems and photos show animals have lived for some time. I would really like to see the new video clip.

Nube and Tomcat discredit the two articles on snared dogs completely but to me the overriding issue is that two dogs were caught which is a problem. I don't believe the two instances were posed but I'm not an expert like these two.
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Old 01-04-2018, 01:45 PM
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rcmc - I mainly would like to see some regulations put in place which would give the public and their pets some protection from irresponsible trappers. There is no control now. I would also like to know more about the humane aspects of snaring because much of what I hear from trappers does not agree with my own experiences. Supposedly the new spring locking snares [which I haven't used] have made them into instant killers according to the "experts" but I've heard of problems and photos show animals have lived for some time. I would really like to see the new video clip.

Nube and Tomcat discredit the two articles on snared dogs completely but to me the overriding issue is that two dogs were caught which is a problem. I don't believe the two instances were posed but I'm not an expert like these two.
Don't want to derail this thread but the majority of dogs that I personally have heard of getting caught in snares where wandering on private land and the owners did not control their dogs. If somebody is setting snares where they shouldn't be there are controls in place already and its illegal.
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Old 01-04-2018, 01:54 PM
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Don't want to derail this thread but the majority of dogs that I personally have heard of getting caught in snares where wandering on private land and the owners did not control their dogs. If somebody is setting snares where they shouldn't be there are controls in place already and its illegal.
Correct. I love dogs and don’t want to ever see one caught. My line is active from November till late February
I hope to never have an incident. Hope some owners see that danger is possible and are ready to act.
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Old 01-04-2018, 01:59 PM
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Correct. I love dogs and don’t want to ever see one caught. My line is active from November till late February
I hope to never have an incident. Hope some owners see that danger is possible and are ready to act.
I agree, I sure don't want to catch a dog and if there might be a chance, I don't set. Dog owners need to be responsible too its not a one sided deal.
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Old 01-04-2018, 03:29 PM
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rcmc - I mainly would like to see some regulations put in place which would give the public and their pets some protection from irresponsible trappers. There is no control now. I would also like to know more about the humane aspects of snaring because much of what I hear from trappers does not agree with my own experiences. Supposedly the new spring locking snares [which I haven't used] have made them into instant killers according to the "experts" but I've heard of problems and photos show animals have lived for some time. I would really like to see the new video clip.

Nube and Tomcat discredit the two articles on snared dogs completely but to me the overriding issue is that two dogs were caught which is a problem. I don't believe the two instances were posed but I'm not an expert like these two.
You should go back under the bridge you came out from under. Jokes on you, snare testing is currently under way...As for pets, they can't read warning signs. If you are in the bush walking your dog in the dead of winter, your either trespassing, or up to no good.

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Old 01-04-2018, 03:32 PM
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Zake- hopefully we can both agree that the trapper and the dog owners need to be responsible and use some common sense, we all want to enjoy the outdoors.
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Old 01-04-2018, 05:38 PM
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Please show us the video footage of the snared coyote, It would be very interesting.

There is a thread in the Hunting forum about two snared dogs which seemed to be fairly reported although Nube thought the articles were total BS because a snare was made wrong? There seemed to be snaring restrictions where one dog was caught and the second dog was caught in a snare with a spring device. Is this the one that goes "splat" with instant kills? One dog [guard dog] had traveled a mile which is much too far and the second was with it's owner.

MS - your lesson on cyanide poisoning has nothing to do with the accidental snaring of dogs. I asked for input if you had any?
Sorry but that's not gonna happen ..Cecil the lion comes to mind and I don't need that . I will tell you that it is educational to me and answered a number of questions that I had . Only a few folks I would consider showing it to.

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Old 01-04-2018, 06:42 PM
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I agree there needs to be common sense on both sides. But look at Spruce: If you are walking your dog in the bush in the winter you are up to no good or tresspassing? Regulations wouldn't even help this guy. He doesn't even realize there is a problem, and his sense of entitlement is un believable.

gman 1978 says controls are in place to regulate snares, thats the entire problem, there are none other than having the right of access. Snare your neighbor's dog right on his property line ten feet from his house and it's perfectly legal. Or go for a cross country ski trip from a designated recreation area and lose your dog to a snare and it's perfectly legal.

What in hell is anyone doing scattering killing devices around the entire country with absolutely no warning to the public? Does anyone think this makes sense? Does everybody put their life on hold while a handful of trappers pursue their recreation, even on public land?

Question for Spruce. Where is snare testing underway and what does the testing consist of. Please provide contact information for the scientists in charge.
Zack I wonder how many dogs are caught in snares 10 feet from there dwelling? My guess isn’t too many. Dog owners have a lot of things to worry about long before they go after a responsible trapper. Heck there is a better chance of coyote coming into the yard and chewing them apart. I have witnessed that and it isn’t pretty
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Old 01-05-2018, 07:54 AM
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Wait guys wait.we have to worry about these pets and unsuspecting pet owners. We have to protect them. I drive around the a large area for a living. Do you know how many pets I see on the Hiway. These hiways are killing devices scattered all around the province. These hiways are killing 100s of pets a year. We have to remove all these killing lanes. Well at least regulate these. Ok everyone only drive Monday afternoons doing 30km/hour just in case a pet is on the hiways. That's a reasonable regulation..... come on Dwight (zack or whatever name you are reincarnated to)

Either you like getting underfolks skin (troll) or you are oblivious to the world around you? Do you feel remorse for poisoning all those animals with your brain stew goop? Or do you have a chip on your shoulder cause trappers are controlling the coyote population better than you ever did.
My main question is why do you preach to trappers? Are they gonna convert to your side? I think you'd have better success going to Iran and converting them to Mormons. Try to convert everyone in Terhan and make that the salt lake city of the mid east. That seems reasonable.

Instead of wasting your time trying to annoy folks or convert folks why don't you vollenteer your time at an animal rehabilitation center or help out the animal shelter. Or here's a great business idea. Go to a bunch of outdoor animal hiking clubs, claim your an expert and talk to them about trapping. Then I'm sure you could make a deal with Marty and sell cable cutters. You could have 100% Mark up and 1000's of sales once you explain the killing devices around every Bush and blade of grass.

Why do folks waste their valuable time when they could be productive. Arguing or proving your side is right or all the other BS in the world doesn't convert people just takes up a valuable resource which is TIME. If you are being productive you don't have time to argue, worry about who's religion is better, or get all in a tizzy about the next social issue that affects 0.00001% of the population. Take your valuable resource(TIME) and be productive or give that time and volunteer you will be much happier with yourself.
I'm done now I gotta get producing. Boy this used up some of my resource.

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Old 01-05-2018, 08:51 AM
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Default I think the Op got his question answered.

Please stick to the topic at hand. If you want to talk about another topic start your own thread.

No personal characterizations in your comments about an other member. That reflects badly on the forum and all of the rest of us.

You all know better.
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