Hutterite child injured with handgun?

lannie · #1 04-23-2019, 06:43 AM

In the Pincher Creek news paper. Must be more to the story. I would be quite surprised if the handgun was there legally.

http://www.pinchercreekvoice.com/201...L8_9PifLiIrXvg

baticus · #2 04-23-2019, 07:37 AM

From my understanding pincher colony hunts. So as far as legal firearms, I would guess that at least one person on the colony holds a PAL. Now as far as an RPAL goes, I wouldn't be surprized if they held one as well.

That is just speculation on my part though.

wildbill · #3 04-23-2019, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by lannie

In the Pincher Creek news paper. Must be more to the story. I would be quite surprised if the handgun was there legally.

http://www.pinchercreekvoice.com/201...L8_9PifLiIrXvg

Don't worry I'm sure they get religious exemption or, something to that effect, seems to be way things go these days.............

Trochu · #4 04-23-2019, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by lannie

Must be more to the story. I would be quite surprised if the handgun was there legally.

I'm curious as to why you think there must be more to the story and why someone on the colony wouldn't have a RPAL?

Grizzly Adams · #5 04-23-2019, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by lannie

In the Pincher Creek news paper. Must be more to the story. I would be quite surprised if the handgun was there legally.

http://www.pinchercreekvoice.com/201...L8_9PifLiIrXvg

Putting down livestock would be a logical explanation for having it there.

Grizz

elkhunter11 · #6 04-23-2019, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams

Putting down livestock would be a logical explanation for having it there.

Grizz

Except a restricted firearm can only legally be discharged at an approved range, so a non restricted firearm would make a lot more sense.

270person · #7 04-23-2019, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by wildbill

Don't worry I'm sure they get religious exemption or, something to that effect, seems to be way things go these days.............

Religious exemption from what? A child is shot and that's the best you can come up with?

Willing to bet you know very little about Hutterites.

MrDave · #8 04-23-2019, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 270person

Religious exemption from what? A child is shot and that's the best you can come up with?

Willing to bet you know very little about Hutterites.

No doubt. Better people than many on here. 13 year old playing with a loaded 22 handgun is a sign of bad parenting and lack of proper storage. Its got nothing to due with religious beliefs.
Hope the little will be OK.

bat119 · #9 04-23-2019, 09:04 AM

The handgun was in an "out building" I would assume this is the hog kill gun somebody forgot to unload.
Back in the 60's my grandpa had a semi 22 handgun hanging on the wall in the barn he used to remove the magazine and hide it we never could find it.

elkdump · #10 04-23-2019, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MrDave

No doubt. Better people than many on here. 13 year old playing with a loaded 22 handgun is a sign of bad parenting and lack of proper storage. Its got nothing to due with religious beliefs.
Hope the little will be OK.

X2 We'll said ! I hope you haven't seriously offended any bigots ,,,

270person · #11 04-23-2019, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MrDave

No doubt. Better people than many on here. 13 year old playing with a loaded 22 handgun is a sign of bad parenting and lack of proper storage. Its got nothing to due with religious beliefs.
Hope the little will be OK.

Yep. Likely to be charged with unsafe storage, possibly endangerment, and lose the weapon with the only thing they care about right now being that their child pulls through.

I have no idea what the poster was referring to you when he cited their religion being an out. Never heard of Hutterites being exempt from the laws of the land and it's likely the poster hasn't either.

CNP · #12 04-23-2019, 10:55 AM

Useless misinformation and speculation abounds as usual

I hope the child recovers completely. The older child will suffer the remainder of his days as well. Unfortunate accident that did not have to happen.

I hunt this colony and have respect for the colony

Grizzly Adams · #13 04-23-2019, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CNP

Useless misinformation and speculation abounds as usual

I hope the child recovers completely. The older child will suffer the remainder of his days as well. Unfortunate accident that did not have to happen.

I hunt this colony and have respect for the colony

We were all teens ones and did stupid things. The forbidden is always out there to tempt us. Was there, did that.

Grizz

Cement Bench · #14 04-23-2019, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Trochu

I'm curious as to why you think there must be more to the story and why someone on the colony wouldn't have a RPAL?

maybe because they do, it have to have pictures on their Alberta drivers licenses

Trochu · #15 04-23-2019, 11:40 AM

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maybe because they do, it have to have pictures on their Alberta drivers licenses

Crystal clear now.

JD848 · #16 04-23-2019, 11:47 AM

There is no handgun,an old single shot cooey 22 with part of the stock missing and few inches of the barrel used for shooting hogs.

Hope the kid is OKA,I guess it was shorten for easy carrying around the farm.

Not a factory pistol.Still it should have been stored properly,but some kids are just kids and they made a bad mistake which I am sure the whole colony feels bad about this.

wildbill · #17 04-23-2019, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 270person

Religious exemption from what? A child is shot and that's the best you can come up with?

Willing to bet you know very little about Hutterites.

Ya, Nailed it!!!!!
I've had many, many dealings with them and worked them, your machiatos gettin cold!!!

pikergolf · #18 04-23-2019, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by wildbill

Ya, Nailed it!!!!!
I've had many, many dealings with them and worked them, your machiatos gettin cold!!!

And in your many, many dealings with them, you were left with the impression they were exempt from the law?

elkhunter11 · #19 04-23-2019, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JD848

There is no handgun,an old single shot cooey 22 with part of the stock missing and few inches of the barrel used for shooting hogs.

Hope the kid is OKA,I guess it was shorten for easy carrying around the farm.

Not a factory pistol.Still it should have been stored properly,but some kids are just kids and they made a bad mistake which I am sure the whole colony feels bad about this.

If it was shortened too much , it may now be a prohibited firearm.

buckbrush · #20 04-23-2019, 06:44 PM

Sure hope the kid ends up fully recovering.

As for the wild speculation, I have no comment.

JD848 · #21 04-23-2019, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by elkhunter11

If it was shortened too much , it may now be a prohibited firearm.

I am not sure of this so we will wait and see what happens,the child is going to be oka and the bullet went straight through him.Hard lesson to learn about firearms as a kid,but one none of them will ever forget.

elkhunter11 · #22 04-23-2019, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JD848

I am not sure of this so we will wait and see what happens,the child is going to be oka and the bullet went straight through him.Hard lesson to learn about firearms as a kid,but one none of them will ever forget.

The important thing is that he is okay. Now the only thing to see, is what the charges will be.

Pathfinder76 · #23 04-23-2019, 07:45 PM

Heard the kid was going to be OK yesterday. That’s all that matters. The rest really is secondary and really no ones business.

JD848 · #24 04-23-2019, 07:56 PM

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Heard the kid was going to be OK yesterday. That’s all that matters. The rest really is secondary and really no ones business.

I agree 100 percent with you Chuck.

270person · #25 04-23-2019, 08:12 PM

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The important thing is that he is okay. Now the only thing to see, is what the charges will be.

I doubt there'll be anything major if theres any at all and that's the way it should be. Family and colony will have suffered enough.

elkhunter11 · #26 04-23-2019, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 270person

I doubt there'll be anything major if theres any at all and that's the way it should be. Family and colony will have suffered enough.

There is no doubt that the family has suffered, but the bottom line ,is that the regulations are meaningless if they aren't enforced. So either enforce them, or get rid of them. If the regulations are worth having, you can't overlook violations ,just because someone was injured.

Ceilidh69 · #27 04-23-2019, 08:35 PM

Hope the kid will be OK. Tough crowd on here.

270person · #28 04-23-2019, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by elkhunter11

There is no doubt that the family has suffered, but the bottom line ,is that the regulations are meaningless if they aren't enforced. So either enforce them, or get rid of them. If the regulations are worth having, you can't overlook violations ,just because someone was injured.

Overlooking has gone on for decades in the rural areas. It's a different way of life and should be granted some leeway. Unsafe storage at most in this case. Hutterites aren't a threat.

elkhunter11 · #29 04-23-2019, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 270person

Overlooking has gone on for decades in the rural areas. It's a different way of life and should be granted some leeway. Unsafe storage at most in this case. Hutterites aren't a threat.

I grew up in a rural area, I know what goes on in rural areas. But that doesn't change the fact that laws that aren't enforced serve no purpose. If the firearm wasn't legally stored, charge the owner, if that doesn't seem just, change the storage regulations, so they are just.

Pathfinder76 · #30 04-23-2019, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by elkhunter11

I grew up in a rural area, I know what goes on in rural areas. But that doesn't change the fact that laws that aren't enforced serve no purpose. If the firearm wasn't legally stored, charge the owner, if that doesn't seem just, change the storage regulations, so they are just.

Do you know that it was stored improperly?