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03-18-2019, 06:15 PM
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Toyota Tundra or Ford F-150??
Hello folks I’m in the market for a new truck narrowed it down to the 5 litre F-150 10 speed or the Toyota Tundra 5.7 6 speed. This truck is going to have to tow a 6000# trailer and bushwack through the mud and snow in the fall. Witch one you guys pick and why? Thank you for your input
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03-18-2019, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Bush Critter
Hello folks I’m in the market for a new truck narrowed it down to the 5 litre F-150 10 speed or the Toyota Tundra 5.7 6 speed. This truck is going to have to tow a 6000# trailer and bushwack through the mud and snow in the fall. Witch one you guys pick and why? Thank you for your input
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Definately get the Ford between those two, the new 10 speeds are nice. The tundras are pigs on fuel, hook a trailer up and it would be even worse.
I ended up with a new Ram half-ton, but I would've taken a Ford also. Got a better deal from Dodge
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03-18-2019, 06:35 PM
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No Brainer
I have had two F150s in a row (2010 & 2016). Both sold because of multiple issues, engine, drivetrain, and on the 2010 incessant rattles that would drive a deaf man batty.
During my last Ford's trips to the shop for repairs, I drove a 3.5 ecoboost with the 10 speed. It is nice. No two ways about it. However, the Tundra wins every single reliability report that has ever been printed on paper. Every last one.
If you buy a truck every few years by all means go with whatever is nicest and most comfortable, because it's under warranty, but if you want one to last, there is no competition.
For anyone to say otherwise they are only fooling themselves.
BTW, the cheapest thing about vehicle ownership is gas.
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03-18-2019, 06:36 PM
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I test drived both, the F-150 seamed was a smooth drive I mean 20 minutes down city streets. The Tundra felt like a 3/4ton. It’s a hard choice I know that the you can’t have it all but now days trucks are an expensive envestment. Hardest to chose the right one....
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03-18-2019, 06:41 PM
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Unless you need a new truck right now, I would wait for the new Tundra. The Tundra has been the most reliable of the pickups by far on any of the sites that keep records for long term reliability. The Tundra will not ride as smooth, but it won't bottom on rough roads like the Ford will either. The only real knock on the Tundra is fuel economy,and that is supposedly being addressed with the new redesign. I drove a 2007 Tundra since new, and just sold it a week ago, when I decided to go to a mid sized truck. During the time that I owned it, I replaced the battery after 10 years, and the front brakes a year ago, other than that, just regular maintenance for over 12 years.
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03-18-2019, 06:43 PM
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03-18-2019, 06:53 PM
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Yeah Toyota supposedly has a new tundra in the works for 2020. The 5.7 seams to be a thirsty engine. It’s a hard hit with the 140 liter gas tank when the price of gas hits 1.30 this summer like every summer...
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03-18-2019, 06:58 PM
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From my personal experience I would definitely suggest Tundra
I bought my Tundra in 2006 (07 model) and currently has 440,000 km and it still runs great ( pulled Trailer and run it in oilpach for 5 years) It's not great on fuel ( I support AB oilpach like new Fords BUT doesn't break down like Ford.
My neighbor has Ford 2018 F150 and it's great on fuel, but only problem is that he is driving loaner vehicle from dealerships ones a month since his truck always breaks down
What I am trying to say is if you want to save on gas buy Ford every few years
Or if you want to save save on repairs ( and save money) buy Toyota
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03-18-2019, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Bush Critter
I test drived both, the F-150 seamed was a smooth drive I mean 20 minutes down city streets. The Tundra felt like a 3/4ton. It’s a hard choice I know that the you can’t have it all but now days trucks are an expensive envestment. Hardest to chose the right one....
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And that is exactly why you choose the most reliable one. Both times, I cheaped out because the Ford was a little cheaper. I can't tell you how many times I regretted it.
Again, I will say that the cheapest part of a truck is the gas. Toyota also has a 4.6L too.
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03-18-2019, 07:07 PM
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Yeah Ford is getting very innovative with their eco boost’s and 10 speed transmissions. The tundra has been practically unchanged for over 10 years...
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03-18-2019, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Bush Critter
Yeah Ford is getting very innovative with their eco boost’s and 10 speed transmissions. The tundra has been practically unchanged for over 10 years...
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I am not sure I would call Ford innovative. I really believe they have never got it right and keep on trying to get it right. They treat truck manufacturing like a work in progress. The Toyota's have very high resale because they are just plainly much better trucks.
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03-18-2019, 07:16 PM
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Toyota is way more reliable then the Ford but the tundra likes to drink fuel
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03-18-2019, 07:25 PM
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220,000 kms on my 2015 f-150 5.0 its had a couple recalls other than that it hasn’t been to the dealer. The main thing is to keep away for the eco-boost and you’ll be fine.
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03-18-2019, 07:27 PM
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03-18-2019, 07:27 PM
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Eco-Boost is kinda scary, I mean it’s basically a car engine in a full size truck...
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03-18-2019, 07:29 PM
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They are not even in the same league. It’s like comparing a Cadillac Escalade
to a Suzuki Sidekick- wth the F-150 obviously being the Sidekick.
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03-18-2019, 07:38 PM
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I would (and have) get the F150.
I don't know what trim/options you are looking at, but the Ford likely has more options for less money, has a nicer interior in my opinion, out performs the Tundra in basically every measurable metric (0-60, 0-100, rolling start, 30-50, 50-70, 1/4 mile, braking, roadholding, etc.), has more hp and greater efficiency, etc. We have three F150s at work, all have well over 100,000 km on them, and, besides basic maintenance, the one issue we've had is that a speaker wire came loose on one of them.
And in my experience of vehicle ownership, the cost of fuel easily surpasses the combined costs of repairs, registration, and insurance.
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03-18-2019, 07:41 PM
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I see lots of ford/dodge/Toyota threads but not much on gmc/chev....what’s the verdict on them 5 years and newer?
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03-18-2019, 07:46 PM
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I have the big 3.5 eco boost with 10speed transmission. Max tow package with the sport model.
LOVE IT.
I tow a 7500lb RV trailer just fine.
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03-18-2019, 07:48 PM
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What does getting a F150 for this intended use actually mean in terms of model-box length and cab configuration ? Cost equipped as required for intended use?
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03-18-2019, 07:51 PM
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Why not the eco-boost?
Try one.
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03-18-2019, 07:52 PM
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Tundra all the way....
I’ve had both Chevy and ford trucks. After my last ford crapped out, i spent the extra $ amd got a Tundra. Will NEVER go back. 350,000k and not a penny spent on it beyond normal maintenance. All my other trucks had crapped out long before this point.
Not only does it last forever, but it holds its resale value like no other vehicle out there.
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03-18-2019, 07:58 PM
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Here is my 2 cents
Tundra: Best resale value by far due to Toyota reliability and quality. Costs more upfront in the initial purchase but will likely save you a lot more in the long run if you plan to keep the truck for a while. Also a Tundra is an absolute beast when it comes to towing as it has 4:30 rear end gear ratio. Hence the poor fuel economy with the 5.7L engine. Hands down an extremely capable tow vehicle.
Biggest downside in my opinion is lack of bells and whistles compared to the big 3 domestics. The poor fuel economy is a trade off I was willing to take for the reliability and cheaper overall repair costs.
Ford makes some nice trucks and I've heard great things about the eco-boost. I can't comment as I don't own one. But check out the resale value of a 5yr old eco-boost vs the same age Tundra, it will shock you.
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03-18-2019, 08:09 PM
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42,000 Kim’s on my 2018 eco boost and no issues so far just couple recalls, but none can escape that. Great truck and love the 10 speed transmission
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03-18-2019, 08:25 PM
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Last time I checked, the F150 has way better payload capacity than the Tundra. I had to get rid of my Tundra (which I loved) just because it couldn't make weight once I had the trailer hooked up and everything packed in the truck. Got an F350 but I believe the F150s are the best half ton for payload.
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03-18-2019, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by sns2
If you buy a truck every few years by all means go with whatever is nicest and most comfortable, because it's under warranty, but if you want one to last, there is no competition.
For anyone to say otherwise they are only fooling themselves.
BTW, the cheapest thing about vehicle ownership is gas.
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This is the best advice on this thread. Fuel is comparatively cheap and easy to plan for, major repairs not so much.
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03-18-2019, 08:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bush Critter
I test drived both, the F-150 seamed was a smooth drive I mean 20 minutes down city streets. The Tundra felt like a 3/4ton. It’s a hard choice I know that the you can’t have it all but now days trucks are an expensive envestment. Hardest to chose the right one....
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But, my 2017 Tundra is the bomb on the gravel roads I run daily. Smooth, great handling and fantastic on washboard.
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03-18-2019, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Amateur Hunter
From my personal experience I would definitely suggest Tundra
I bought my Tundra in 2006 (07 model) and currently has 440,000 km and it still runs great ( pulled Trailer and run it in oilpach for 5 years) It's not great on fuel ( I support AB oilpach like new Fords BUT doesn't break down like Ford.
My neighbor has Ford 2018 F150 and it's great on fuel, but only problem is that he is driving loaner vehicle from dealerships ones a month since his truck always breaks down
What I am trying to say is if you want to save on gas buy Ford every few years
Or if you want to save save on repairs ( and save money) buy Toyota
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Interesting since my 2018 has been in the shop for an oil change and carpet recall. 10 speed with eco boost and max tow is awesome for towing anything a half ton is meant to tow. My 2001 f150 has been in the shop for an alternator and other than that regular maintenance like spark plugs, brakes and shocks. I’m sitting at 203000 miles so what’s that 324800 km give or take? I never owned a Toyota truck just 2 of their cars over the years. I’ve owned 4 ford trucks and none of them owed me anything when I was done with them. First was an 89 f150 no idea how many times the odometer rolled over no major issues second was a 96 ranger with 320000 miles with a fuel pump and alternator and I still own my 01 and 18 f150.
To the op, try them both and see which fits your intended use better. I would take advice given by internet hero’s with a grain of salt when I’m making a purchase of 30000$+. Everyone says Toyota reliability yet I’ve never had any of the problems people say are common with fords and that’s pretty much all I’ve owned.
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03-18-2019, 09:09 PM
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My work truck F150 blew all the coolant hoses and has been in the shop for nearly a month. Apparently there was so many going during the cold snap they couldn't keep up. Toyota is hands down one of the most reliable. Its going to burn $650-750 more per year than an Eco. Hook up a trailer to either and I think you will find they suck about the same. You can have Eco or Boost but not both.
I drive a Chev which incidentally is also in the shop waiting on parts that are not built yet lol.
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