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04-21-2017, 08:40 PM
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'Korea' ... Will Canada go again?
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Canada's Defence Minister, Harjit Sajjan;
" ... In close touch with U.S. Defence Secretary James Mattis and they spoke specifically about the escalating tensions in Korea"
" ... National Defence has, regardless of the situation, 'done prudent planning' for possible crises."
Though still remote, Canada sending troops to Korea again is a possibility; http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/kore...-war-1.4080214
Korean War II ?!
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04-21-2017, 08:51 PM
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I hope no one goes
No one shows up, no one fights
Or, if they insist, nuke them from 1000 miles away
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04-21-2017, 09:18 PM
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Probably not,
Someone has to open the borders for all the Korean refugees.
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04-21-2017, 09:23 PM
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If the US, South Koreans, Japan and China (if they are serious) all get involved I think they can handle the situation. We do not need to loose any of our warriors in that fight. Maybe after the smoke clears for peace keeping if needed. just my opinion
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04-22-2017, 07:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by huntinstuff
I hope no one goes
No one shows up, no one fights
Or, if they insist, nuke them from 1000 miles away
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that would be the smart move, not worth one Canadian life.
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04-22-2017, 07:54 AM
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I think the populace in Korea could be brought to see that they've been being duped all along (many know but don't want the become condemned to death for actually saying it). If Kim and the majority of his regime could be taken out with simultaneous & accurate cruise missile strikes then combat boots might not even be needed on the ground, just work boots. I know its a big 'if', but with some intelligence on Kim's movements and locations they could all be struck along with any military command and control facilities they have.
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04-22-2017, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by CaberTosser
I think the populace in Korea could be brought to see that they've been being duped all along (many know but don't want the become condemned to death for actually saying it). If Kim and the majority of his regime could be taken out with simultaneous & accurate cruise missile strikes then combat boots might not even be needed on the ground, just work boots. I know its a big 'if', but with some intelligence on Kim's movements and locations they could all be struck along with any military command and control facilities they have.
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If Kim disappears into thin air, chances are good North Korea will disintegrate into anarchy and we'll have a huge humanitarian crisis to deal with. Sadam Hussein was a nasty man , as Was Tito and Khadaffi and now Assad, but they kept the lid on a boiling kettle. Democracy, as we know it, just doesn't work everywhere. I'm sure this is one of the issues the Chinese are well aware of.
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04-22-2017, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams
If Kim disappears into thin air, chances are good North Korea will disintegrate into anarchy and we'll have a huge humanitarian crisis to deal with. Sadam Hussein was a nasty man , as Was Tito and Khadaffi and now Assad, but they kept the lid on a boiling kettle. Democracy, as we know it, just doesn't work everywhere. I'm sure this is one of the issues the Chinese are well aware of.
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In NK's case I don't think the populace is the same boiling kettle that one see's in other embattled nations, particularly those in the middle east who all argue in perpetuity over their various interpretations of the same religion. NK could be the same as South Korea if it was allowed to. The biggest question is what a certain neighbor named China intends. overthrowing NK would be a speed bump if China was not a factor.
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04-22-2017, 08:46 AM
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send just 2 brothers to North Korea ,
nick names, Little Boy and Fat Man ,
POOF
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04-22-2017, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by huntinstuff
I hope no one goes
No one shows up, no one fights
Or, if they insist, nuke them from 1000 miles away
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Here we go with that stupid "Nuke Them" card again
Take a look at a map of the area. Nuclear fallout would affect at least four other countries in the immediate area (South Korea, China, Japan, Russia). A Nuclear strike on North Korea is Not an option!
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04-22-2017, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Gray Wolf
Here we go with that stupid "Nuke Them" card again
Take a look at a map of the area. Nuclear fallout would affect at least four other countries in the immediate area (South Korea, China, Japan, Russia). A Nuclear strike on North Korea is Not an option!
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Dont need a map. Been there
Id rather the nuke option than ONE Canadian flag draped coffin. And the further away Canadians are, the better.
We need to learn to mind our own business. We are not the worlds babysitter.
And if those other countries are concerned about nuclear fallout, I suggest they put their big girl panties on and deal with that guy. There's some incentive for them
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04-22-2017, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by huntinstuff
Dont need a map. Been there
Id rather the nuke option than ONE Canadian flag draped coffin. And the further away Canadians are, the better.
We need to learn to mind our own business. We are not the worlds babysitter.
And if those other countries are concerned about nuclear fallout, I suggest they put their big girl panties on and deal with that guy. There's some incentive for them
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04-22-2017, 05:16 PM
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Send in the CIA
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I just wanted to point out that the USA hasn't won a war since world war 2. Not that anyone wins when there is war, but they haven't defeated an adversary since.
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04-22-2017, 06:16 PM
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I just wanted to point out that the USA hasn't won a war since world war 2. Not that anyone wins when there is war, but they haven't defeated an adversary since.
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The USA was on the winning side but it was an allied effort. They did a number on Japan though.
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04-22-2017, 07:09 PM
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It would make turdeau look good if we did join in. This is quite a predicament given the south would almost instantly loose a lot of people within the first hour. I'm sure the only reason it hasn't happened yet.
I feel bad for all the people that live there. A good percentage of the children are malnourished and look like the kids from Ethiopia along with all the strict rules the citezens have to follow or face death in most cases. Marijuana use is legal in North Korea however and rather surprising. It grows wild all along the city streets and even the military personall smoke it regularly.
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04-22-2017, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by huntinstuff
Dont need a map. Been there
Id rather the nuke option than ONE Canadian flag draped coffin. And the further away Canadians are, the better.
We need to learn to mind our own business. We are not the worlds babysitter.
And if those other countries are concerned about nuclear fallout, I suggest they put their big girl panties on and deal with that guy. There's some incentive for them
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Thats nothing more than the antiquated musings of a crusty old-school isolationist.
Have two world wars taught you nothing?!
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04-23-2017, 12:11 AM
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The two recognized wars have taught me nothing.
The current world events have also taught me nothing.
If isolationism can balance i am for it.
But i like .
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04-23-2017, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by gray wolf
thats nothing more than the antiquated musings of a crusty old-school isolationist.
Have two world wars taught you nothing?!
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lol!!!!
Lol!!
Here's some good advice
Contact catnthehat. He's a moderator. Ask him to allow you to edit your posts before everyone here reads how stupid you are.
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04-25-2017, 06:01 PM
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I think North Korean people would have a much greater quality of like if there was a huge war and the North Korean government was removed. But, if they aren't taking over other countries (like the Germans did) why should we get involved in improving their quality of life if they don't want it?
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Originally Posted by lyallpeder
I think North Korean people would have a much greater quality of like if there was a huge war and the North Korean government was removed. But, if they aren't taking over other countries (like the Germans did) why should we get involved in improving their quality of life if they don't want it?
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04-26-2017, 04:47 PM
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I would Volunteer, I would do it for my country.
If Canada goes then I will volunteer for my country, to serve my country again.
If USA goes like during the orginal Korean conflict, then like the Canadian Veterans before me, I will still go and volunteer with them.
I am a CF Veteran having served our great country for ten years, and I will do it again, even with my bad knees.
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04-21-2017, 09:25 PM
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We have fighters in Guam that got dropped theere within the last 2 weeks. According to a US Military buddy of mine.
I wouldn't call the source horribly reliable by any means so take that with a grain of salt
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it should be obvious to everyone that the entire country is a prison colony, and that the best way to cure North Korea is to cut lil Kim's head off.
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Might happen but I'm gonna say probably not. Mostly a lot of strutting and chest thumping. China don't want it to happen. There's a lot of Chinese dollars invested in North America and I would think that they want it back.
Gotta admit the North Koreans sure do march nice.
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04-21-2017, 10:03 PM
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Well it would technically still be justthe Korean War since it was never officially ended....
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Well it would technically still be justthe Korean War since it was never officially ended....
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Just an FYI.....It was never a declared war, it was a UN police action, officially called "The Korean Conflict." Although, most people mistakenly refer to it as "The Korean War."
No offence but, I just wanted to clarify.
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04-22-2017, 01:20 AM
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Gotta admit the North Koreans sure do march nice.
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Russians will try to top it in a few weeks for a Victory Day. They have a tradition (military parades) since before Soviet state came into existence, good show, way better than Big Brother - more fun and shorter
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Originally Posted by barsik
it should be obvious to everyone that the entire country is a prison colony, and that the best way to cure North Korea is to cut lil Kim's head off.
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The main problem is that a wast majority of a country population are willing wardens and, until this part is changed, it doesn't matter who's head is cut. Money, lure of cheap goods, food and sneaky propaganda is the way to go for now. Countries, even nuclear ones, fold from withing for the last 60 years. History shows that it is way harder to "win hearts and minds" after you bomb a country into a stone age, even the ones who never choose to exit this age.
"Smart and sneaky" wins "tough", especially "pretend tough" every time.
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Originally Posted by ak-71
The main problem is that a wast majority of a country population are willing wardens and, until this part is changed, it doesn't matter who's head is cut. Money, lure of cheap goods, food and sneaky propaganda is the way to go for now. Countries, even nuclear ones, fold from withing for the last 60 years. History shows that it is way harder to "win hearts and minds" after you bomb a country into a stone age, even the ones who never choose to exit this age.
"Smart and sneaky" wins "tough", especially "pretend tough" every time.
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You are a bit mistaken, the vast majority of the population are prisoners, but the overwhelming balance of power lies with the government and the military. these social structures are extremely difficult to topple, because it means that the unarmed and docile must confront their oppressor, much like a herd of wildebeast would surround and kill a lion. only when the population is starving to the point of death is this threshold reached. this type of situation is presently being practiced in many countries...most of the world, in fact. some countries which trumpet capitalism and freedom are facades for dictators...nothing is going to change until humanity imposes restrictions on elected representatives.
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