Go Back   Alberta Outdoorsmen Forum > Main Category > Trapping Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-05-2020, 05:53 PM
trigger7mm trigger7mm is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 3,517
Default Super Magnum spring?

I trying the super magnum kill springs for the first time, and caught my first three coyotes using them today. One had a very large rip in his neck where the snare wire was. I never had this happen before on any of the hundreds of coyotes I’ve caught n the past. Is this a fairly common occurrence? If so, they are getting shelved. Thanks for the input.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-05-2020, 09:07 PM
bucksnbears bucksnbears is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 617
Default

Can't image he spring having anything to do with that?
__________________
winner of the first annual CoyoteHunter.net tournament seiries.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-05-2020, 11:31 PM
trigger7mm trigger7mm is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 3,517
Default Super magnum spring

Just wondering if it may be sucked the cable in too tight?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-06-2020, 12:14 AM
HunterDave HunterDave is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Copperhead Road, Morinville
Posts: 19,290
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by trigger7mm View Post
Just wondering if it may be sucked the cable in too tight?
I don’t use them but I highly doubt the Spring would have caused it by pulling the cable too tight. A coyote pulls the cable a lot tighter than the strength of the torsion spring. I’ve had big ones almost open 280 lb BADs. To make the noose tighter you’d need a spring stronger than the force already exerted on the noose.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-06-2020, 01:03 AM
Marty S Marty S is offline
AO Sponsor
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 2,477
Default

I’m probly at about 600 killed with the Supermagnums. I haven’t seen such a thing yet. All with Lightning Locks. All I see regularly is very, very straight cables.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-06-2020, 12:19 PM
trigger7mm trigger7mm is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 3,517
Default Super magnum springs

I haven’t taken a really close look at it yet, but the damage may very well have been caused by a recent injury. Poor buggers day might have gone from bad to worst.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-12-2020, 10:32 PM
aardvaark aardvaark is offline
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Lacombe, AB
Posts: 484
Default

Do the supermagnums kill better than the magnums? I’ve been using magnums and time after time the site is all tore up, they were obviously alive for quite a while. Prolly 2 or 3 out of ten that die quick and often as not that’s cuz of entanglement.

The pic of the raven is to prove that Marty’s springs don’t always fire.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg A683F205-8AFF-4003-9E71-CB028F842011.jpg (26.9 KB, 43 views)

Last edited by aardvaark; 01-12-2020 at 11:01 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-13-2020, 01:28 AM
Marty S Marty S is offline
AO Sponsor
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 2,477
Default

They aren’t supposed to fire for ravens. Even dogs that don’t battle the snare have a chance to survive the experience.

I want the snare to lock up good and tight before the spring fires. If it fires too easily, it fires before solid lock up and reduced effectiveness.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-13-2020, 01:37 AM
Marty S Marty S is offline
AO Sponsor
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 2,477
Default

X
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-13-2020, 05:14 AM
shakeyleg02's Avatar
shakeyleg02 shakeyleg02 is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: southern alberta
Posts: 2,246
Default Magnums

I dont have any supermags only a few magnums with only 1 snare set on a fence line.. the first dawg caught big purdy female did not fire the spring and was ZERO disturbance and laying off the side of the entrance ..second dawg wrapped up a bit and was found with its head against the post with fired spring ... ZERO trail disturbance
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 01-13-2020, 11:14 AM
dgl1948 dgl1948 is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,241
Default

Are these being tested for approval for use in Sask.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 01-13-2020, 11:19 AM
Reddog Reddog is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Southern alberta
Posts: 105
Default

With a few Bridger and mostly lightning locks the only bad thing I can say about the super magnums is they are scary to cut off dead critters lol...come on Marty how about an unsettling tool for safety!! I have good confidence in an original magnum spring and good cam lock which is telling of how my experience is going with the super mags!
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 01-13-2020, 11:46 AM
jeffreys 21234 jeffreys 21234 is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 614
Default

I wish we could run the senneker system in sask rather then the rams
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 01-13-2020, 12:46 PM
kingrat kingrat is offline
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: prince albert
Posts: 1,838
Default

I run both, the sennekers on my registered line and rams in the farm land. Other than size and cost I find them fairly equal in killing with the ram being slightly better. But I agree it would be nice to be able to run free hangers in the south.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 01-13-2020, 01:18 PM
jeffreys 21234 jeffreys 21234 is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 614
Default

Yea the prices makes a big difference since moving here I’ve been able to add more to the aresenal each season been trying to find a easier way for my wife an daughters to set the rams as both girls an the wife want to start trapping as they really enjoy being out with me once they are licenced I will just do the re setting of the rams sorry for the derail on the thread
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 01-13-2020, 06:47 PM
aardvaark aardvaark is offline
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Lacombe, AB
Posts: 484
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marty S View Post
They aren’t supposed to fire for ravens. Even dogs that don’t battle the snare have a chance to survive the experience.

I want the snare to lock up good and tight before the spring fires. If it fires too easily, it fires before solid lock up and reduced effectiveness.

Sorry, Marty, that was meant to be a joke. Me really bad for not having put the ‘lol’ in there.

But I would like an answer to my question, if you have the stats for it: Does the super magnum kill oftener/better than the magnum?
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 01-14-2020, 12:35 AM
Marty S Marty S is offline
AO Sponsor
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 2,477
Default

With a Lightning lock and 1/16”... straight cables all day long. Coyote gets caught, bites cable a couple times, then lunges, then rendered unconscious.

I went to using up Magnum #22 spring snares and significant difference compared to results with Supermag #33. This will be HunterDavey worthy if my new lock hits the market.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 01-14-2020, 06:53 AM
kingrat kingrat is offline
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: prince albert
Posts: 1,838
Default

When is this super secret best lock ever made gonna show its face Marty?
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:49 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.