Sniper rifle hunting

[catnthehat]

The U.S. actually used crossbows in 'nam, but I think that would be classed as "short range sniping", more like ambush gorilla tactics!
Cat

[Flieguy]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

The U.S. actually used crossbows in 'nam, but I think that would be classed as "short range sniping", more like ambush gorilla tactics!
Cat

Reminds me of that Episode from Hogan's Heroes, where Col, Crittendon wants to assassinate Kommandant Klink with the crossbow...

10 points if you get this reference

[DukesArcher]

Where could I get myself a sniper crossbow?

[Matt L.]

Originally Posted by Flieguy

Reminds me of that Episode from Hogan's Heroes, where Col, Crittendon wants to assassinate Kommandant Klink with the crossbow...

10 points if you get this reference

Yep, Crittendon's crossbows. A unit that would've lost the war for sure.

[1Heavyhitr]

Just when you think you've seen it all......

[trooper]

Originally Posted by CaberTosser

I think a sniper crossbow is not something that actually exists, as its not something a sniper would actually use (being less efficient/ more prone to windage issues/ lacking range, etc). Its splitting hairs, but I'm trying to assist you in not getting teased on the matter. Really the term 'sniper rifle' could apply to any heavy barreled target rifle with a large scope, but generally most hunters and target shooters don't use the term as we don't want the public to relate our hunting pursuits to the killing of humans which the term 'sniper' generally seems to imply.

As for hunting with a sniper rifle, one would assume you mean a heavy barreled model; these are not ideal for anything but still hunting due to their weight. Typically a person adept at shooting will not need a multitude of shots to down their quarry, so the long strings of fire afforded by a heavier barrel lose their lustre when compared to a regular barrel profile that will be accurate for as many shots as a person proficient with it will need. Most rifle hunting kills are sub 250 yard shots, which is where hunting and shooting diverge. A hunter can close the distance to his quarry, and this demands other skill sets in addition to just good marksmanship.

Also, I suggest that you check the hunting regs, one cannot use a rifle of any sort for hunting geese.

The term Sniper has changed from it's original meaning. A sniper used to refer to a member of the English gentry who used to hunt snipe with a very accurate small caliber rifle. Because they were so accurate, the term has become known now as one who shoots from very long distances, generally at humans.

[trooper]

Originally Posted by Flieguy

Reminds me of that Episode from Hogan's Heroes, where Col, Crittendon wants to assassinate Kommandant Klink with the crossbow...

10 points if you get this reference

The movie "Wild Geese" come to mind where a brit merc uses one with cyanide capsules to take out enemy guards in towers.

[ccardinal]

Too much video games for this mooseguy

[Dick284]

Originally Posted by trooper

The movie "Wild Geese" come to mind where a brit merc uses one with cyanide capsules to take out enemy guards in towers.

Actually the character played by the German actor Hardy Kruger, was supposidly from South Africa(Peter Curtzie)...............

[Okotokian]

Just started, asks an odd question, gets himself banned. Welcome and goodbye I guess. That's too bad.

[twofifty]

The mooseguy kind of triggered a collective allergic reaction. The thought of a(nother) clueless sniper-video addled guy hunting within rifle shot of me is chilling.

[Hat in the Cat]

Originally Posted by Okotokian

Just started, asks an odd question, gets himself banned. Welcome and goodbye I guess. That's too bad.

No kidding, you figured everyone knew there hasn't been sniper crossbows since the province did away with the feral cow hunts

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by Hat in the Cat

No kidding, you figured everyone knew there hasn't been sniper crossbows since the province did away with the feral cow hunts

and pool noodles!

[dmac]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

The U.S. actually used crossbows in 'nam, but I think that would be classed as "short range sniping", more like ambush gorilla tactics!
Cat

Seriously? Have never seen any reference to Crossbows being issued to US forces in Viet Nam. I'd toss that thing away, first opportunity.

[Redfrog]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

The U.S. actually used crossbows in 'nam, but I think that would be classed as "short range sniping", more like ambush gorilla tactics!
Cat

WOW! I saw a video clip of a chimp with an AK47, but a Gorilla with a crossbow? Dang !!!that is spooky.

[bat119]

During the 20th century crossbows continued to play a role in modern warfare. The "Arrowspeed" crossbow was used by Australian commandos during World War 2 in the Pacific Theatre. From the mid twentieth century through the Vietnam conflict, the Montagnard people of southern Asia used crossbows in their many conflicts. They also used them while supporting American forces during the Vietnam War years.

American military personnel also used crossbows as a silent weapon in the jungle and for secret reconnaissance missions. Crossbows have also been used as support equipment by the military and law enforcement for such things as propelling climbing ropes, draw lines and for numerous other more secretive purposes.

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[Lefty-Canuck]

If I decide to hunt "sniper rifles" can anyone suggest a way to cook one? What sort of habitat do they prefer? Do I need to ask permission to hunt "moms basements"? If I play "call of duty" will that simulate a real scenario...? I am new to sniper rifle hunting....need help!

LC

[58thecat]

Modern military and paramilitary use[edit]

In modern times crossbows are no longer used for assassinations, but there are still some applications. For example, in the Americas, the Peruvian army (Ejército) equips some soldiers with crossbows and rope, to establish a zip-line in difficult terrain.[44] In Brazil the CIGS (Jungle Warfare Training Center) also trains soldiers in the use of crossbows.[45][46] In the United States, SAA International Ltd manufacture a 150 ft·lb crossbow-launched version of the U.S. Army type classified Launched Grapnel Hook (LGH), among other mine countermeasure solutions designed for the middle-eastern theatre. It has been successfully evaluated in Cambodia and Bosnia.[47] It is used to probe for and detonate tripwire initiated mines and booby traps at up to 50 meters. The concept is similar to the LGH device originally only fired from a rifle, as a plastic retrieval line is attached.[48] Reusable up to 20 times, the line can be reeled back in without exposing oneself. The device is of particular use in tactical situations where noise discipline is important.[49]





A pistol crossbow
In Europe, British-based Barnett International supplied crossbows to Serbian forces which according to The Guardian were later used "in ambushes and as a counter-sniper weapon", against the Kosovo Liberation Army during the Kosovo War in the areas of Pec and Djakovica, south west of Kosovo.[50] Whitehall launched an investigation, though the department of trade and industry established that not being "on the military list" crossbows were not covered by such export regulations. Paul Beaver of Jane's defence publications commented that, "They are not only a silent killer, they also have a psychological effect". On 15 February 2008 Serbian Minister of Defence Dragan Sutanovac was pictured testing a Barnett crossbow during a public exercise of the Serbian army's Special Forces in Nis, 200 km south of capital Belgrade.[51] Special forces in both Greece and Turkey also continue to employ the crossbow.[52][53] Spain's Green Berets still use the crossbow as well.[54]

In Asia, Chinese armed forces use crossbows at all unit levels from traffic police to the special force Snow Leopard Commando Unit of the People's Armed Police and the People's Liberation Army. One justification for this comes in the crossbow's ability to stop persons carrying explosives without risk of causing detonation.[55] Furthermore, during the Xinjiang riots of July 2009, crossbows were used alongside modern military hardware to quell protestors.[56] The Indian Navy's Marine Commando Force were equipped until the late 1980s with crossbows supplied with cyanide-tipped bolts, as an alternative to suppressed handguns.[57]

[Steelhorse Cowboy]

I'm late in my reply that I forgot,as I had to get more screen wipes to clean the coffee off...good humor this morning...

[Smokinyotes]

When I was a kid I used to hunt them snipers. I found the 410 to be the most effective "sniper" rifle. I tried using a 12 ga but it did too much damage. Haven't hunted snipers in years, just found there wasn't enough meat on them and mom always complained that it was to difficult putting in the stuffing.

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by dmac

Seriously? Have never seen any reference to Crossbows being issued to US forces in Viet Nam. I'd toss that thing away, first opportunity.

Of course I have , I don't post stuff that Is a rumour I may have heard !
It was an article in the American Rifleman many years ago but I will never forget it . It also included sub sonic rounds as well as a shortened version of the 458 may have been the 458 American that Barnes was working At the time , can't remember exactly
Cat

[ak-71]

Some scary stuff on this forum.

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by Smokinyotes

When I was a kid I used to hunt them snipers. I found the 410 to be the most effective "sniper" rifle. I tried using a 12 ga but it did too much damage. Haven't hunted snipers in years, just found there wasn't enough meat on them and mom always complained that it was to difficult putting in the stuffing.

You got to use your little finger and push real hard to put the stuffin in a sniper!

[Matt L.]

Originally Posted by ak-71

Some scary stuff on this forum.

What makes you say that?

[Kokanee9]

Originally Posted by colroggal

Bigmoosemurphy. Either you are genuinely starting on the ground floor or you are trolling. Take the hunter's ed course. Take your PAL course. Buy a .22 bolt action rifle and learn to shoot. Be aware of what it means to respect nature. And if you go out in the woods to practice with your .22 recognize that respect starts with absolute zero footprint. Pack out everything you bring in (that includes brass). Along the way you will learn what you need to learn and others will help you. Asking questions is never bad. Just keep your questions to the point.

And a word of advise: don't use the expression sniper anything. It has no place in the woods. Call of duty does not teach you how to shoot or hunt.

If you are trolling don't expect to live much past 30 posts.
Colin

(Bold and underline added)

Care to revise your estimate to 21 posts? LOL

[ak-71]

Originally Posted by Matt L.

What makes you say that?

People who are planning to get "sniper rifles" but refuse to take safety course

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by ak-71

People who are planning to get "sniper rifles" but refuse to take safety course

You do realize that the OP was nothing but a troll and started all these posts just to get the members up in arms?
It wouldn't surprise me at all if he has been hunting for many years and knew exactly what the law is about PAL's, archery tackle, rifles, and hunting laws......
Cat

[colroggal]

Figured bmm was just that. I also figure about a ten percent chance he was a somewhat dim, woefully uninformed and clearly eager individual a few years shy of his claimed 29. That was until a few glimmers of intellect trickled through.

Either case I chose not to take the bait.

Colin

[ak-71]

Originally Posted by colroggal

Figured bmm was just that. I also figure about a ten percent chance he was a somewhat dim, woefully uninformed and clearly eager individual a few years shy of his claimed 29. That was until a few glimmers of intellect trickled through.

Either case I chose not to take the bait.

Colin

OK, ok, sorry I must have missed the "glimmers". Feel safer now

[6.5swedeforelk]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

You do realize that the OP was nothing but a troll and started all these posts just to get the members up in arms?
It wouldn't surprise me at all if he has been hunting for many years and knew exactly what the law is about PAL's, archery tackle, rifles, and hunting laws......
Cat

Surely now you believe in reincarnation.

He's been on here before, different name, different approach...but same troll!