Populism or civic engagement ?

[Rancid Crabtree]

Seems in recent years when a significant size group of people get together to make change it is negatively referred to as a Populist movement.
When I was in school they would have called it grass roots civic engagement and in general considered the basis of democracy.

I'm not concerned with if the group is left or right but a sizable group acting of their own will (not paid or coerced by a larger interest) seems to be good not bad.

For a local example the uptake of memberships in UCP because people were unhappy (I assume based on Kenney's review).

So populism or civic engagement not sure I know the difference.

[urban rednek]

A group of well-meaning progressives and/or SJW's demanding political change is civic engagement.
A group of regular people coming together to enact political change is defined as a populist movement by the well-meaning progressives, their political masters, and the MSM.

Clear?

[Sundog57]

Exactly
A bunch of folks saying they would like the government to waste other people's money is civic engagement.
A bunch of folks saying "hey wait a second, I worked for that and you didn't" is populism

[Grizzly Adams1]

Populism, a word of derision from the elites , for the will of the common people, hence Bad.

Grizz

[walking buffalo]

Yet another word that few people understand the true definition of.

[Rancid Crabtree]

Originally Posted by walking buffalo

Yet another word that few people understand the true definition of.

Are we on the right track ?
Is populism just a negative label the elites use on groups that have unacceptable ideas?

Seems to be but I'm open to learning why an engaged population is bad for anyone other than a arrogant leader.

[Trochu]

I'm a big fan of populism.

[walking buffalo]

Originally Posted by Rancid Crabtree

Are we on the right track ?
Is populism just a negative label the elites use on groups that have unacceptable ideas?

Seems to be but I'm open to learning why an engaged population is bad for anyone other than a arrogant leader.

There is a sapphire to be cut out of your thread.


I was expressing that populism should be used with the correct understanding of its meaning, not the currently often twisted implication.
Populism at its core simply means "the People".
Any further use of the word needs context, which is rarely offered.
Without this offering, any discussion immediately submits to misunderstanding as a foundation. Guaranteed to cause chaos.


Modern progressiveness is quite simple in its course to action.
Keep conservation off balance by bombarding the ethos with as much junk as possible. Logic (order) demands a response, and quickly become overwhelmed by the volume of nonsense thrust into existence.

A logical way to quell this flood of lies is to ignore the "new" implied definitions being sprouted. Keep them in the dark and let them die.

Be proud of your convictions and stand up for them.

[KegRiver]

It is said that the pen is mightier then the sword.

Do you know who said that? It was someone who didn't know how to use a sword.

Words, (The pen) only have power if you believe them.

We all have a choice, to believe without using our brains or we can check to see if what is written is true. Most choose the former because that is what we were taught to do.

There is another old saying that is very true.

“If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with BS.

It's a media specialty.

We were trained to believe everything that is written and not labeled fiction. And we were taught that the media only tells the truth.

It is a clever con that most never see through.

[KegRiver]

Originally Posted by urban rednek

A group of well-meaning progressives and/or SJW's demanding political change is civic engagement.
A group of regular people coming together to enact political change is defined as a populist movement by the well-meaning progressives, their political masters, and the MSM.

Clear?

I would define them differently.

Civic Engagement = People working together to build their community.

Populist movement = Majority rule.

All gun owners should know this trick.

Change the definition and a useful tool becomes a danger to society.

It matters not if we are talking guns or politics.

Politicians are elected to represent us. Or at least that was the original intent back when time began.
Now they rule over us and we applaud them for doing so.

Why? Well because someone changed the definition.

We let their pen defeat our sword.