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07-16-2017, 04:17 PM
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LH Model 70 help.
I just bought sight unseen a LH Model 70. Unknown was the fact it had a Timney trigger. Not what I wanted. I have all the necessary OEM trigger assembly parts but the cocking piece looks to have been modified to reduce the angle. Can I make this work? I have put the OEM parts on, but the trigger pull is horrendous.
Any insight as to what could be done here? Thanks a bunch.
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07-16-2017, 06:35 PM
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Looks like you have to buy a cocking peice. There are aftermarket ones out there as well.
Question, why do you not like the Timney?
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07-16-2017, 06:48 PM
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I prefer the open original Model 70 trigger.
I've never seen an aftermarket LH Model 70 cocking piece. Who makes them?
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07-16-2017, 07:20 PM
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I didnt realize that the left hand was a different cocking piece, probably due to the safety. I have seen Tubbs precision website, they have a cocking peice. I don't know if there is a lefty. Pacific tool could have something, I bought a Rem700 firing pin there not sure if they have Winchester parts. Sorry about that. I wonder if a right hand could be modified for left.
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07-16-2017, 07:27 PM
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A new factory piece isn't an option?
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07-16-2017, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by double gun
A new factory piece isn't an option?
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Not that I can find.
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07-16-2017, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mgvande
I didnt realize that the left hand was a different cocking piece, probably due to the safety. I have seen Tubbs precision website, they have a cocking peice. I don't know if there is a lefty. Pacific tool could have something, I bought a Rem700 firing pin there not sure if they have Winchester parts. Sorry about that. I wonder if a right hand could be modified for left.
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Unfortunately no.
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07-16-2017, 07:41 PM
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It seems strange that you would t be able to find one. I mean the 700rem and the win70 are arguably to most popular rifles. There are lots of 700 parts but no mod70.
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07-16-2017, 07:44 PM
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Lefty's have been out of production a long time.
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07-17-2017, 07:24 AM
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Have you got a proper piece that a good smith could copy for you. Not the cheapest option but may be the only choice. I know Gitrdun seems to like making one of pieces, might be worth talking to him if you have a pattern for him to work from.
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07-17-2017, 08:59 AM
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A RH cocking piece could maybe have the notch for the safety added on the left side.
You should ask Bill Leeper.
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07-17-2017, 03:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rembo
A RH cocking piece could maybe have the notch for the safety added on the left side.
You should ask Bill Leeper.
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It's more than just the notch.
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07-17-2017, 05:39 PM
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The geometry of the cocking piece and trigger affect the operation of the safety. Does the safety function properly with the current cocking piece/ firing pin and trigger .
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07-17-2017, 05:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fps plus
The geometry of the cocking piece and trigger affect the operation of the safety. Does the safety function properly with the current cocking piece/ firing pin and trigger .
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Yes it does.
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07-17-2017, 06:03 PM
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The cocking piece would have been ground so the safety will work with the Tim ney trigger . If you switch the trigger out chances are the safety will not work new trigger/ sear
I would suggest triggers / safeties on model 70 are not for the hobbyist and require profession attention .
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07-17-2017, 06:11 PM
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Have you put the new trigger in and tried the function of the firearm ? More than likely the safety will not work
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07-17-2017, 06:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fps plus
Have you put the new trigger in and tried the function of the firearm ? More than likely the safety will not work
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I have and the safety works as it should with the original trigger.
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07-17-2017, 06:37 PM
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Is there a particular reason you are not fond of the timney trigger ?
If the original 70 (pre64 style ) trigger works with the safety but is heavy that can easily be taken care of
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07-17-2017, 06:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fps plus
Is there a particular reason you are not fond of the timney trigger ?
If the original 70 (pre64 style ) trigger works with the safety but is heavy that can easily be taken care of
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Will the reduction in length of the cocking piece have an affect on firing pin travel?
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07-17-2017, 07:01 PM
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Yes it does. Any time you do something to the cocking piece it effects the safety as well . There is a camming surface on the cocking piece for the safety to work with.
The small amount removed from the cocking piece should not cause any problems with a shorter firing pin travel ie misfires
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