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Old 07-16-2017, 04:17 PM
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I just bought sight unseen a LH Model 70. Unknown was the fact it had a Timney trigger. Not what I wanted. I have all the necessary OEM trigger assembly parts but the cocking piece looks to have been modified to reduce the angle. Can I make this work? I have put the OEM parts on, but the trigger pull is horrendous.

Any insight as to what could be done here? Thanks a bunch.
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Old 07-16-2017, 06:35 PM
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Looks like you have to buy a cocking peice. There are aftermarket ones out there as well.
Question, why do you not like the Timney?
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Old 07-16-2017, 06:48 PM
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I prefer the open original Model 70 trigger.

I've never seen an aftermarket LH Model 70 cocking piece. Who makes them?
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Old 07-16-2017, 07:20 PM
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I didnt realize that the left hand was a different cocking piece, probably due to the safety. I have seen Tubbs precision website, they have a cocking peice. I don't know if there is a lefty. Pacific tool could have something, I bought a Rem700 firing pin there not sure if they have Winchester parts. Sorry about that. I wonder if a right hand could be modified for left.
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Old 07-16-2017, 07:27 PM
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A new factory piece isn't an option?
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A new factory piece isn't an option?
Not that I can find.
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I didnt realize that the left hand was a different cocking piece, probably due to the safety. I have seen Tubbs precision website, they have a cocking peice. I don't know if there is a lefty. Pacific tool could have something, I bought a Rem700 firing pin there not sure if they have Winchester parts. Sorry about that. I wonder if a right hand could be modified for left.
Unfortunately no.
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It seems strange that you would t be able to find one. I mean the 700rem and the win70 are arguably to most popular rifles. There are lots of 700 parts but no mod70.
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Lefty's have been out of production a long time.
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Old 07-17-2017, 07:24 AM
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Have you got a proper piece that a good smith could copy for you. Not the cheapest option but may be the only choice. I know Gitrdun seems to like making one of pieces, might be worth talking to him if you have a pattern for him to work from.
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Old 07-17-2017, 08:59 AM
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A RH cocking piece could maybe have the notch for the safety added on the left side.

You should ask Bill Leeper.
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A RH cocking piece could maybe have the notch for the safety added on the left side.

You should ask Bill Leeper.
It's more than just the notch.
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The geometry of the cocking piece and trigger affect the operation of the safety. Does the safety function properly with the current cocking piece/ firing pin and trigger .
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The geometry of the cocking piece and trigger affect the operation of the safety. Does the safety function properly with the current cocking piece/ firing pin and trigger .
Yes it does.
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Old 07-17-2017, 06:03 PM
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The cocking piece would have been ground so the safety will work with the Tim ney trigger . If you switch the trigger out chances are the safety will not work new trigger/ sear

I would suggest triggers / safeties on model 70 are not for the hobbyist and require profession attention .
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Old 07-17-2017, 06:11 PM
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Have you put the new trigger in and tried the function of the firearm ? More than likely the safety will not work
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Old 07-17-2017, 06:26 PM
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Have you put the new trigger in and tried the function of the firearm ? More than likely the safety will not work
I have and the safety works as it should with the original trigger.
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Old 07-17-2017, 06:37 PM
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Is there a particular reason you are not fond of the timney trigger ?

If the original 70 (pre64 style ) trigger works with the safety but is heavy that can easily be taken care of
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Is there a particular reason you are not fond of the timney trigger ?

If the original 70 (pre64 style ) trigger works with the safety but is heavy that can easily be taken care of
Will the reduction in length of the cocking piece have an affect on firing pin travel?
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Old 07-17-2017, 07:01 PM
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Yes it does. Any time you do something to the cocking piece it effects the safety as well . There is a camming surface on the cocking piece for the safety to work with.
The small amount removed from the cocking piece should not cause any problems with a shorter firing pin travel ie misfires
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