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Old 01-13-2018, 10:03 AM
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Any body try this for back country use, or even regular use.

https://myketocoach.pruvitnow.com/ca...erry-lemonade/
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Old 01-15-2018, 01:09 PM
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Keotogenic diet takes roughly a week to set in. Deep ketosis can take longer though. You can use a ketogenic supplement to get into ketosis even faster than the week it takes naturally. It is true that your enegry levels are more stable under a ketogenic diet, but its also harder to find foods that are ketogenic approved that are light for backpacking.


Beyond the kill podcast, episode 77, he does an interview with alex viada about becoming a hybrid athlete. He goes into a stretch on nutrition and hydration (towards the end maybe last 10min). Explains why he is against ketetonic diets. I don’t know enough to go one way or the other but I found it a very interesting podcast.

Check out backpacking stores (mec, valhala) they’ll often have backcountry cook books. Lots of great ideas to prep food before your trip. Lipsmakin backpacking is a good one.

Usually I just do the oatmeal mix in the morning, cliff bars and granola for lunch, mountain House for supper. I am becoming a fan of oatmeal apple pie pancake peanut butter jelly sandwich’s though...heavy but delicious! And some sort of electrolyte salt mix for hydration to keep those brain synapses firing; help keep the foggy brain and clumsy stumbling away.


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Old 01-15-2018, 02:22 PM
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Beyond the kill podcast, episode 77, he does an interview with alex viada about becoming a hybrid athlete. He goes into a stretch on nutrition and hydration (towards the end maybe last 10min). Explains why he is against ketetonic diets. I don’t know enough to go one way or the other but I found it a very interesting podcast.

Check out backpacking stores (mec, valhala) they’ll often have backcountry cook books. Lots of great ideas to prep food before your trip. Lipsmakin backpacking is a good one.

Usually I just do the oatmeal mix in the morning, cliff bars and granola for lunch, mountain House for supper. I am becoming a fan of oatmeal apple pie pancake peanut butter jelly sandwich’s though...heavy but delicious! And some sort of electrolyte salt mix for hydration to keep those brain synapses firing; help keep the foggy brain and clumsy stumbling away.


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Great episode - Alex Viada is an animal!

The evidence for Keto as a performance enhancer is very very limited. Evidence against it far outweighs the pro’s.

I’ve been in the strength & conditioning world for over 10 years and have seen keto come and go twice, maybe even 3 times.

I could litter this feed with links to the current research and studied but I won’t even bother right now.

For a mountain hunter who is looking to maximize their energy & performance, there’s no good reason to blow up your current approach thinking that keto holds the magic solution.

Calories are king at the end of the day - your body uses glucose as a fuel first and foremost and carbs are the most efficient way of delivering that.


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Old 01-15-2018, 03:00 PM
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Beyond the kill podcast, episode 77, he does an interview with alex viada about becoming a hybrid athlete. He goes into a stretch on nutrition and hydration (towards the end maybe last 10min). Explains why he is against ketetonic diets. I don’t know enough to go one way or the other but I found it a very interesting podcast.

Check out backpacking stores (mec, valhala) they’ll often have backcountry cook books. Lots of great ideas to prep food before your trip. Lipsmakin backpacking is a good one.

Usually I just do the oatmeal mix in the morning, cliff bars and granola for lunch, mountain House for supper. I am becoming a fan of oatmeal apple pie pancake peanut butter jelly sandwich’s though...heavy but delicious! And some sort of electrolyte salt mix for hydration to keep those brain synapses firing; help keep the foggy brain and clumsy stumbling away.


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I'd say the most important thing that not many people do is compare the amount of calories and macros they are taking on the mountain to what they eat from day to day. Depending on your diet you can be taking in a lot more than you think daily and expecting to perform on the mountain with only a marginal increase in total calories consumed is unrealistic.
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Old 01-15-2018, 04:39 PM
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I'd say the most important thing that not many people do is compare the amount of calories and macros they are taking on the mountain to what they eat from day to day. Depending on your diet you can be taking in a lot more than you think daily and expecting to perform on the mountain with only a marginal increase in total calories consumed is unrealistic.
100%

My calorie expenditure on an average day of mountain hunting is 3000-3500, putting my daily needs at well over 5000 just to maintain my current body weight.

Realistically and practically, nobody is packing 5000 calories worth of food per day X 5 days with them.

Calorie-dense foods are king. Gatorade powder helps top up the calories and the electrolytes as well. And at the end of the day, it's all damage control because you're 100% going to lose some weight and be under-fed to some degree.
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Old 01-15-2018, 08:44 PM
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Here is a video of packing food for sheep hunting that some may find useful made by Kuiu;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWMXrwUFd6c
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Here is a video of packing food for sheep hunting that some may find useful made by Kuiu;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWMXrwUFd6c
Seems to me like a ton of food for a day I typically eat Oat meal for breakfast, for the days pack 2 cliff bars and some trail mix. Hard to believe Jason would be going on a guided Dall Sheep hunt and have to supply his own food I can guarantee meals are provided with Bonnet Plume.
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Seems to me like a ton of food for a day I typically eat Oat meal for breakfast, for the days pack 2 cliff bars and some trail mix. Hard to believe Jason would be going on a guided Dall Sheep hunt and have to supply his own food I can guarantee meals are provided with Bonnet Plume.
Most of the time they pack their own food because it is lighter than what the guide would normally supply.
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Old 01-16-2018, 08:29 AM
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Bacon, cheese, pumpkin seeds and dried fruits. Few cans of mackerel.

Good breakfast and dinner, with snacks in between and lots of water.
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Old 01-16-2018, 08:13 PM
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Mountain house for supper

Oatmeal (homemade mix of oats, raisins, choc chips, brown sugar, dried fruit) with flat bran cakes

My friend makes me homemade granola bars. She should sell them...

Several bags of dried deer meat. Chew it or boil it with rose hips like a soup.

I’ve hard boiled eggs, heavy smoked on the pellet grill, then vac sealed too. Last 3 days unless its cold, then prob 6-7.

Constantly drinking water

Two jet boils. One for coffee, one for boiled food.

Jetboil. I sooooo like those things
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I use horses to access my hunting areas as well but use dehydrated meals mainly as a backup or on stop over nights on trips that take more than 1 day of riding to get to the destination.
Other than that I take mainly regular food (meats, veggies and starches) and this is how I justify it.
If I am going in to hunt an area I allow enough horse power to pack whatever I am hunting out. This leaves me with that amount of horse power to pack food in. If I was to leave early with a harvested animal early I would dump unnecessary food weight and am not out a lot of money especially when it comes to heavier items like beans, potatoes etc. (of course i empty cans and pack them out).
I always keep my dehydrated meals as a back up in case the weather turns and I have to hunker down for a few days. Plus, they are expensive and I really don't like wasting money........horses are expensive enough LOL

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Old 01-16-2018, 11:07 PM
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If you do oatmeal with dried fruit in the morning, skim milk powder is a great way to add calories and protein for cheap, plus it tastes better than protein powders.

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Also, if you are going light, that precooked bacon at the grocery store keeps well, even crappy bacon is better than no bacon.

I like to take a jar of Nutella and peanut butter mixed and eat it with crackers during the day, it high energy with a bit of protein. Tinned fish or seafood has a pretty good weight to calorie ratio.

Just take things you like to eat.
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