Pay for access.

gloszz · #1 12-12-2018, 10:14 AM

Seems like a lot of people are upset on forums and Facebook that even though there is a hog problem down in texas, people are charging them to hunt. Since it's illegal to pay for access here how does this logic sound to you guys " well my land costs me to upkeep and it ain't free, so why should I let people on?" Or " I don't let people hunt because they shoot my animals and equipment then they shoot my neighbours stuff and it's a lawsuit and liability". How do farmers here deal with these issues? I thought you buy land for yourself to make a living from the land, not have people pay you to hunt hogs that you trap and bring into your property. Help me understand this guys haha. I'm hoping to move down there in september once I'm done school and it's hard for me to get used to the fact I can't hunt for "free" anymore haha.

Nyksta · #2 12-12-2018, 10:34 AM

You are lumping property owners into stereotypes. Every person is going to deal with their own property with their own personal style based on their experiences. Respect goes a long way.

wwbirds · #3 12-12-2018, 10:46 AM

you wont have as much free time to hunt or dream up imaginary situations/problems

Taiga · #4 12-12-2018, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by gloszz

Seems like a lot of people are upset on forums and Facebook that even though there is a hog problem down in texas, people are charging them to hunt. Since it's illegal to pay for access here how does this logic sound to you guys " well my land costs me to upkeep and it ain't free, so why should I let people on?" Or " I don't let people hunt because they shoot my animals and equipment then they shoot my neighbours stuff and it's a lawsuit and liability". How do farmers here deal with these issues? I thought you buy land for yourself to make a living from the land, not have people pay you to hunt hogs that you trap and bring into your property. Help me understand this guys haha. I'm hoping to move down there in september once I'm done school and it's hard for me to get used to the fact I can't hunt for "free" anymore haha.

Well you can spend a million or two and buy your own private land and hunt for free, it is easy.

But you sure won’t be hunting for free, or at all, on the land I spent my money on in my name. The general lack of respect shown on this forum for private property rights and for farmers in general tells land owners that read it all they need to know.

gloszz · #5 12-12-2018, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Taiga

Well you can spend a million or two and buy your own private land and hunt for free, it is easy.

But you sure won’t be hunting for free, or at all, on the land I spent my money on in my name. The general lack of respect shown on this forum for private property rights and for farmers in general tells land owners that read it all they need to know.

Well you legally cant charge people to hunt your property. You can choose not to allow people to hunt your property, which is fine. But if you happen to have a hog problem, or wolves killing your cattle, then you better not be crying for insurance money. I hunt private land all the time, but not for "free". I help them with fences and things that may need to be done around. Last week I helped one make sausages all day. Other times I find a nice bottle of alcohol on his property and ask if he happened to lose it.

gloszz · #6 12-12-2018, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by wwbirds

you wont have as much free time to hunt or dream up imaginary situations/problems

I will have all the time in the world haha. I work here full time and go to school. I have enough time to hunt and come up with these great thoughts.

Ronaround · #7 12-12-2018, 10:59 AM

are you high?

Smoky buck · #8 12-12-2018, 10:59 AM

Trolling is an open water tactic

gloszz · #9 12-12-2018, 11:15 AM

Why does it always have to be me trolling? These are serious discussions I am trying to hold.

warriorboy10 · #10 12-12-2018, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by gloszz

I will have all the time in the world haha. I work here full time and go to school. I have enough time to hunt and come up with these great thoughts.

Then keep this type thought to yourself! Now you know why others wonder if your high!!

last minute · #11 12-12-2018, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by gloszz

I will have all the time in the world haha. I work here full time and go to school. I have enough time to hunt and come up with these great thoughts.

GREAT THOUGHTS ok. Have at it

Chief16 · #12 12-12-2018, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by gloszz

Well you legally cant charge people to hunt your property. You can choose not to allow people to hunt your property, which is fine. But if you happen to have a hog problem, or wolves killing your cattle, then you better not be crying for insurance money. I hunt private land all the time, but not for "free". I help them with fences and things that may need to be done around. Last week I helped one make sausages all day. Other times I find a nice bottle of alcohol on his property and ask if he happened to lose it.

Thats the whole point of paying for insurance, is it not? In case something like that happens.

gloszz · #13 12-12-2018, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief16

Thats the whole point of paying for insurance, is it not? In case something like that happens.

From what I hear you won't get a claim if they find out you didnt allow hunters on to fix or prevent your problem in the first place.

OpenSights · #14 12-12-2018, 12:22 PM

"From what I hear" meaning you really have no idea and are just guessing cause someone you know said something or you read something on the internet???

Just so everyone is clear with the actual facts and where your getting your info for your logic on the question.

pointer · #15 12-12-2018, 01:15 PM

My god man give your head a shake the ideas you come up with are about the dumbest I’ve ever seen or herd of. We wonder why the hunting world is going down hill in a hurry and then we got guys like this out there.

Smokinyotes · #16 12-12-2018, 02:27 PM

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My god man give your head a shake the ideas you come up with are about the dumbest I’ve ever seen or herd of. We wonder why the hunting world is going down hill in a hurry and then we got guys like this out there.

Give the kid a break. I believe he is only about 14 and is just an excited enthusiastic kid wanting to learn the ropes.

Smoky buck · #17 12-12-2018, 03:19 PM

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Give the kid a break. I believe he is only about 14 and is just an excited enthusiastic kid wanting to learn the ropes.

If this is the case a break is fair

last minute · #18 12-12-2018, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokinyotes

Give the kid a break. I believe he is only about 14 and is just an excited enthusiastic kid wanting to learn the ropes.

Who are you talking about

Smokinyotes · #19 12-12-2018, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by last minute

Who are you talking about

The OP

last minute · #20 12-12-2018, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by gloszz

Seems like a lot of people are upset on forums and Facebook that even though there is a hog problem down in texas, people are charging them to hunt. Since it's illegal to pay for access here how does this logic sound to you guys " well my land costs me to upkeep and it ain't free, so why should I let people on?" Or " I don't let people hunt because they shoot my animals and equipment then they shoot my neighbours stuff and it's a lawsuit and liability". How do farmers here deal with these issues? I thought you buy land for yourself to make a living from the land, not have people pay you to hunt hogs that you trap and bring into your property. Help me understand this guys haha. I'm hoping to move down there in september once I'm done school and it's hard for me to get used to the fact I can't hunt for "free" anymore haha.

You mean this op

Smokinyotes · #21 12-12-2018, 06:12 PM

Yup

last minute · #22 12-12-2018, 06:37 PM

weull my land costs me to upkeep and it ain't free, so why should I let people on?" Or " I don't let people hunt because they shoot my animals and equipment then they shoot my neighbours stuff and it's a lawsuit and liability". How do farmers here deal with these issues?

Does not sound like a 14 year old learning the ropes so now I won't give him a break .

Off in the Bushes · #23 12-12-2018, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by gloszz

I hunt private land all the time, but not for "free". I help them with fences and things that may need to be done around. Last week I helped one make sausages all day. Other times I find a nice bottle of alcohol on his property and ask if he happened to lose it.

Seriously, so you are a hired hand then. Taking land access for payment? Then bribing them with alcohol, this is the reason that most land owner are getting away with it, it's because people like you do these things. Don't get me wrong I believe in being respectful to the owner but this is crossing the line.

Norwest Alta · #24 12-12-2018, 08:22 PM

For some reason I don’t believe you’ve ever fixed a fence in your life unless you messed it up yourself.

Personally I’m in favour of paid access. Since it’s not legal how do you feel about paying a 4 hr minimum @ $200 per hr to get your game out of my field or $800 surcharge for the map on where the upside harrows might of gotten lost?

elkhunter11 · #25 12-12-2018, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by gloszz

Why does it always have to be me trolling? These are serious discussions I am trying to hold.

And yet after reading some of your posts, nobody seems to take you seriously . The way you come across, I have to wonder if you are just trying to stir people up.

gloszz · #26 12-12-2018, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Norwest Alta

For some reason I don’t believe you’ve ever fixed a fence in your life unless you messed it up yourself.

Personally I’m in favour of paid access. Since it’s not legal how do you feel about paying a 4 hr minimum @ $200 per hr to get your game out of my field or $800 surcharge for the map on where the upside harrows might of gotten lost?

Now why do you need to belittle me like that? Just because of the way I present myself on here? How many kids do you know that have started to hunt or fish with no adult guidance because they dont know anyone? My father never fished or hunted yet I started doing those things. I have actually fixed many things, including my own cars since my dad taught me in his mechanic shop. I bet I can rebuild a tranny better and faster than you can. Or how about designing floorplans with spec, details and sections? Can you do that, because I sure as hell can. Just because I was born in the city, doesnt mean I didn't spend every summer in Poland on the farm.

now getting to the topic at hand. I never said I was for or against. But I do not see why people are making a huge business out of hogs since they are problematic. If you are trapping and bringing hogs to your own ranch then you are a big problem, not a solution.

kw12 · #27 12-12-2018, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by gloszz

Now why do you need to belittle me like that? Just because of the way I present myself on here? How many kids do you know that have started to hunt or fish with no adult guidance because they dont know anyone? My father never fished or hunted yet I started doing those things. I have actually fixed many things, including my own cars since my dad taught me in his mechanic shop. I bet I can rebuild a tranny better and faster than you can. Or how about designing floorplans with spec, details and sections? Can you do that, because I sure as hell can. Just because I was born in the city, doesnt mean I didn't spend every summer in Poland on the farm.

now getting to the topic at hand. I never said I was for or against. But I do not see why people are making a huge business out of hogs since they are problematic. If you are trapping and bringing hogs to your own ranch then you are a big problem, not a solution.

You sir are always a good laugh. Thank you for that

gloszz · #28 12-12-2018, 09:43 PM

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You sir are always a good laugh. Thank you for that

And you ma'am are the reason I am leaving this forum. It is a bunch of pompous bums who would rather belittle people than actually help them. I don't think I have ever received any positive comments or helpful advice. Always hear the same crap.

Versatile · #29 12-12-2018, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Nyksta

You are lumping property owners into stereotypes. Every person is going to deal with their own property with their own personal style based on their experiences. Respect goes a long way.

Not in Texas.

Versatile · #30 12-12-2018, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by elkhunter11

And yet after reading some of your posts, nobody seems to take you seriously . The way you come across, I have to wonder if you are just trying to stir people up.

The pot calling the kettle black?