Best 500 Yard Bullet in a 300 Winchester Magnum

[Double Dropper]

If shots were limited to 500 yards what bullet would you use? Have been playing with a variety of 308 bullets out of the 300 Win, hunt deer elk moose bear and would not take a poke idealy past 400 but extended this to 500 yards for conversations sake. I used Berger 190 grain bullets this season loaded to 3100 fps.....very not happy with weight retention, fragmentation and penetration. 2 Shots with them at 100 on moose, 150 on a whitetail. Ya ya ya they're both dead but only 25 grains left on the bullet in the shoulder of a 2 year old moose and the whitetail was a passthrough but extensive blood shot meat and copper every where! Not my idea of a hunting bullet.

[GMX]

I keep hearing the same thing about burger bullets and was told never to hunt with them from a buddy who shot a few elk with them. Same story as your they seem to grenade on impact no personal experience though. I don’t shoot a 300 or those ranges if I did I would look at an acubond, partitions TTSX/GMX’s or eldx bullets. IMO anyways.

[Double Dropper]

ELDX 200 and 212 area what Iam playing with right now but on a close range shot.....the 200 is too soft for sure the 212, have not shot anything with them but same construction, remind me of Nosler Ballistic Tips.

[markg]

Originally Posted by Double Dropper

ELDX 200 and 212 area what Iam playing with right now but on a close range shot.....the 200 is too soft for sure the 212, have not shot anything with them but same construction, remind me of Nosler Ballistic Tips.

I am running that with my 300 PRC for hunting. Didnt get an animal this year but during my practice it performed exceptionally. Was shooting it 500 M to 1000 m

the 212 ELDX that is

[Smokinyotes]

A few years ago I loaded up some 200gr ELDX for my 300 win mag. They shot great on paper. I took them on a mule deer hunt down by Oyen that November. I shot a mule buck at 760yards. I was really surprised, at that distance how bad the bullet blew up. I never found a piece bigger than 15 grains.

[huntinstuff]

Three of us use 30 cal bullets
Me in 30-06, son uses 300 win, son uses 300 wsm

All of us out to 500 yds see our best accuracy with 30 cal 180g Nosler Partition PPT's. Two of the rifles are Sako A7 and one is a Browning X Bolt

Past 500, we used 180 Accubonds and got better accuracy

A lot of drop, but once we got it all dialed in, there was a fairly decent difference noticed

None of us shoot past 400 on game though. Its just a rule we have between us. The Accubonds were just an experiment as I dont believe any of us have ever used one on game.

Ive played with different bullets and powders but my standby are the noslers and RL 22 powder. Works for us just fine

[Steyr Luxus]

Berger 210

[marky_mark]

215 berger h1000

[ICMDEER]

I've shot 180 grain Nosler partition bullets in one of my 300 magnums for decades. Killed lots of critters; deer, elk moose. They are still accurate and perform well. And out to 400 yards, they are great.

I got another 300 Winchester mag a few years ago, thinking it would be along range gun. I have had trouble getting it to shoot, so I put a new Shilen barrel on it. It's better but not a one hole rifle. I shot about 20-25 different bullets in that second rifle. The Berger bullets were maybe the most accurate, but as has been mentioned, they don't perform and I just can't hunt with them.

I have had the best luck with the Nosler 190 long range Accubonds. Just shot again yesterday and it is right around 1 inch or under. And the Accubond bullets perform well on game. But I do agree, the Hornady bullets are also good. I just could not get them to group as well in my rifle.

[Double Dropper]

If I had to take a 75 yard shot on an elk quartering towards.....I would not pick the Hornady line up. I found the Accubond LR 190s about the same, I do like them but no tight groups.

[Dean2]

Originally Posted by ICMDEER

I've shot 180 grain Nosler partition bullets in one of my 300 magnums for decades. Killed lots of critters; deer, elk moose. They are still accurate and perform well. And out to 400 yards, they are great.

I got another 300 Winchester mag a few years ago, thinking it would be along range gun. I have had trouble getting it to shoot, so I put a new Shilen barrel on it. It's better but not a one hole rifle. I shot about 20-25 different bullets in that second rifle. The Berger bullets were maybe the most accurate, but as has been mentioned, they don't perform and I just can't hunt with them.

I have had the best luck with the Nosler 190 long range Accubonds. Just shot again yesterday and it is right around 1 inch or under. And the Accubond bullets perform well on game. But I do agree, the Hornady bullets are also good. I just could not get them to group as well in my rifle.

Have you tried taking your best load and playing with the seating depth. I have one 300 WM that went from 1" to just under .25 for 3 shots at 100 by playing with seating depth. That one improved by seating a bit further away from the lands but I have had other guns that like to be near touching. I won't Jam or touch lands with any hunting load but I have a couple of guns that are pretty close to touching.

[kingrat]

Barnes lrx.

[waldedw]

I shoot nosler accubond long range 190 gr in my 300 RUM, awesome performance on game, and very accurate, can't believe they wouldn't work well in the 300 win mag also

[obsessed1]

I run 180 gr accubonds at 2980 fps. Killed 1 moose and a bull elk. Moose was 80 yds Elk was 435 yds Bullets performed as designed. moose bullet recovered was 108 gr shot behind near shoulder. Bullet from bull was 158 gr and was under the hide on off side quartering towards shot.

[Salavee]

Original180 gr Remington Cor Lokts. I have lots if you're interested

[7mmremmag]

Originally Posted by waldedw

I shoot nosler accubond long range 190 gr in my 300 RUM, awesome performance on game, and very accurate, can't believe they wouldn't work well in the 300 win mag also

I used to shoot these in 7mm rem mag, 168's.
Shot an elk twice at 180yds and both bullets exploded/fragmented on the rib cage. Penetration was 6" max.
They may be great for long range, but far from good on close range.
Accubonds or Partitions are my vote.

[W921]

Obsessed
I also said that the bullets looked like you could reload them again because they where not deformed at that range.

[bdub]

Pretty tough to beat the construction of the Partition at those ranges I think. 180 or 200's. Only recovered a few so far. Good results from point blank to 400 ish yards for me, lots of exits wounds.

[partsman]

I still load mag tips and sometimes barnes or even partitions from nosler.
All 180 grains

[CptnBlues63]

Originally Posted by Double Dropper

If shots were limited to 500 yards what bullet would you use? Have been playing with a variety of 308 bullets out of the 300 Win, hunt deer elk moose bear and would not take a poke idealy past 400 but extended this to 500 yards for conversations sake. I used Berger 190 grain bullets this season loaded to 3100 fps.....very not happy with weight retention, fragmentation and penetration. 2 Shots with them at 100 on moose, 150 on a whitetail. Ya ya ya they're both dead but only 25 grains left on the bullet in the shoulder of a 2 year old moose and the whitetail was a passthrough but extensive blood shot meat and copper every where! Not my idea of a hunting bullet.

I use Federal Fusion 165 .308's. These are 2700 fps at the muzzle.

I did a double lung on a whitey buck at 495 yards that went right through. I also did a 450 on an elk that went right through. I did another 300 yard on an elk that hit rib in and out and stuck in the hide on the offside. The bullet deformed (mushroomed) exactly as it should and while I didn't weigh it, I'd wager it didn't lose much, if any, weight at all.

I've been using these rounds for over 10 years now and had great success with them. I've yet to have any that disintegrated or left any bullet behind that I could find.

[marky_mark]

Reason I said the 215 is your typically going to be having a slower muzzle velocity and less of an explosion on the closer shots
They can make a mess, 100% agree
With a name like double dropper i assumed you were looking for something to drop big animals stone cold in their tracks

[Double Dropper]

Originally Posted by marky_mark

Reason I said the 215 is your typically going to be having a slower muzzle velocity and less of an explosion on the closer shots
They can make a mess, 100% agree
With a name like double dropper i assumed you were looking for something to drop big animals stone cold in their tracks

With a name like Marky Mark, I assumed you to be some hip hop wanna be LOL but no double dropper is because I popped a droptine deer 2 years in a row.

[marky_mark]

Originally Posted by Double Dropper

With a name like Marky Mark, I assumed you to be some hip hop wanna be LOL but no double dropper is because I popped a droptine deer 2 years in a row.

Good job, looks like those pictures were taken in the same era when marky mark was still a singer not an actor

[W921]

So I would have what to gain by making something like this up?

[roper1]

Originally Posted by Double Dropper

With a name like Marky Mark, I assumed you to be some hip hop wanna be LOL but no double dropper is because I popped a droptine deer 2 years in a row.

Very nice deer, you need to invite me along, I'll bring my 300 for comparison's sake

[GVAL]

I have had great success with the Barnes LRX with my 300 Win mag.


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[Double Dropper]

Barnes LRX?? What ranges? I do like the thought of this bullet. With respect to the comments above regarding the 215 Berger and how well it performs past 500 yards......this post is not about that. I do not want to "stay off the shoulder!" that is completely pointless and mitigates the entire discussion. 0 to 500 yards and that may mean a close range shot quartering towards or down a cutline 485 yards on elk and moose size game. Bergers need not apply.

[marky_mark]

Originally Posted by Double Dropper

Barnes LRX?? What ranges? I do like the thought of this bullet. With respect to the comments above regarding the 215 Berger and how well it performs past 500 yards......this post is not about that. I do not want to "stay off the shoulder!" that is completely pointless and mitigates the entire discussion. 0 to 500 yards and that may mean a close range shot quartering towards or down a cutline 485 yards on elk and moose size game. Bergers need not apply.

Shoot 200 gr a frames

[GVAL]

I have shot off a gun rest at the range up to 800 yards with steady success with the load that I built for my Browning Xoblt medallion. For hunting I have shot a Bull Moose and a Bull Elk around 400 yards off my bi-pod and had great success. For shorter ranges with Deer and Elk it has worked great as well.





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[Double Dropper]

GVAL, what weight of Barnes LRX?