Sheriff's attacking farm boy, Didsbury AB

[W921]

I'm thinking everyone is dead now so it doesn't matter but just in case it does then the following is fictional.
Years ago police worked alone. When they first came out with women police one of them was over powered in a routine traffic stop on the highway. The guy over powered her and handcuffed her to her steering wheel while she was standing outside the car. Then he rolled the window up tight to her arms and pulled her pants down so that road traffic would see her.
This guy did this only because he didn't like the idea of women police.
The woman police officers only sin was she was just to nice of a human being to pull her gun and shoot this piece of crap over what she thought was nothing but a traffic stop.
There never was a trial. That would have been just more public humiliation for her.
This piece of garbage was dealt with by her fellow officers later on.
I have no problem with the police taking care of bad guys
Police need judgement. They need to use the laws with discretion for the good of the community and they need to be part of that community.

[Talking moose]

Originally Posted by W921

I'm thinking everyone is dead now so it doesn't matter but just in case it does then the following is fictional.
Years ago police worked alone. When they first came out with women police one of them was over powered in a routine traffic stop on the highway. The guy over powered her and handcuffed her to her steering wheel while she was standing outside the car. Then he rolled the window up tight to her arms and pulled her pants down so that road traffic would see her.
This guy did this only because he didn't like the idea of women police.
The woman police officers only sin was she was just to nice of a human being to pull her gun and shoot this piece of crap over what she thought was nothing but a traffic stop.
There never was a trial. That would have been just more public humiliation for her.
This piece of garbage was dealt with by her fellow officers later on.
I have no problem with the police taking care of bad guys
Police need judgement. They need to use the laws with discretion for the good of the community and they need to be part of that community.

I remember that story.

[rem338win]

Originally Posted by W921

Okay, normal citizens should be entitled to be not treated like criminals. A 100lbs older lady who has been a good member of the community all her life but now has a bad case of menopause, having a really bad day should be treated different than a big guy who is intoxicated and looking for trouble or someone who is lurking around an area where they dont belong. Example thats what always bothered me about those Metis moose hunters that got shot. What were they doing out by that guys house that time of night?
Police need to be part of the community. They need to know people and treat people according to who they are. Everybody is not a threat.
BTW I'm not against the use of force when its appropriate.

This was appropriate and entirely precipitated by the twit on the tractor. Make up as many imaginary events that didnt happen as you want, but they do not relate to what DID happen. Youre still grasping at straws and giving your emotional, biased opinion too much credo.

[urban rednek]

Originally Posted by W921

Okay, normal citizens should be entitled to be not treated like criminals.

That horse left the barn a few years ago, it is long gone.
Many in our society embraced the new "guilty until proven innocent" and "reasonable cause not required" sales job the well meaning progressives were selling; all in the name of increased security. Unintended consequences and precedence in law are not terms they understand.
This is the new normal.

Having said that, running a Check Stop and not complying with a LEO's lawful instructions has always been a sure fire recipe for getting tenderized. As it should be.

[Cement Bench]

remember that story thought it happened in a gravel pit outside do

about 30 years AO not sure on the date but the lady was left there for many hours,

Originally Posted by W921

I'm thinking everyone is dead now so it doesn't matter but just in case it does then the following is fictional.
Years ago police worked alone. When they first came out with women police one of them was over powered in a routine traffic stop on the highway. The guy over powered her and handcuffed her to her steering wheel while she was standing outside the car. Then he rolled the window up tight to her arms and pulled her pants down so that road traffic would see her.
This guy did this only because he didn't like the idea of women police.
The woman police officers only sin was she was just to nice of a human being to pull her gun and shoot this piece of crap over what she thought was nothing but a traffic stop.
There never was a trial. That would have been just more public humiliation for her.
This piece of garbage was dealt with by her fellow officers later on.
I have no problem with the police taking care of bad guys
Police need judgement. They need to use the laws with discretion for the good of the community and they need to be part of that community.

[leo]

Originally Posted by urban rednek

That horse left the barn a few years ago, it is long gone.
Many in our society embraced the new "guilty until proven innocent" and "reasonable cause not required" sales job the well meaning progressives were selling; all in the name of increased security. Unintended consequences and precedence in law are not terms they understand.
This is the new normal.

Having said that, running a Check Stop and not complying with a LEO's lawful instructions has always been a sure fire recipe for getting tenderized. As it should be.

This scenario has done wonders to fuel the huge amount of revenue the legal system requires. Courts and lawyers require steady incomes too you know. LOL

[W921]

The story I was talking about was a long time ago. Way before internet. Two different stories? What I was talking about I didn't think was covered in newspapers.

[bat119]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

I remember that story.

Me to
happened in Estevan, Craven, Ft, Mac, Lethbridge, except in those places they left the top lights and siren on.

[liar]

urban legend ???

[KC1]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

I remember that story.

Me too
Chilliwack BC early 80s
Cop might still be alive.

[W921]

I used to hear a lot of stories from my dad years ago.
My memory isn't to good lately.
I can't believe this was happening more than once to women officers in Canada.
I'm wondering if I'm remembering an urban legend that I heard years ago and getting it mixed up with one of my dads stories? If so I apologize.

[LSLAKER]

Originally Posted by W921

I'm thinking everyone is dead now so it doesn't matter but just in case it does then the following is fictional.
Years ago police worked alone. When they first came out with women police one of them was over powered in a routine traffic stop on the highway. The guy over powered her and handcuffed her to her steering wheel while she was standing outside the car. Then he rolled the window up tight to her arms and pulled her pants down so that road traffic would see her.
This guy did this only because he didn't like the idea of women police.
The woman police officers only sin was she was just to nice of a human being to pull her gun and shoot this piece of crap over what she thought was nothing but a traffic stop.
There never was a trial. That would have been just more public humiliation for her.
This piece of garbage was dealt with by her fellow officers later on.
I have no problem with the police taking care of bad guys
Police need judgement. They need to use the laws with discretion for the good of the community and they need to be part of that community.

I've heard this story many times over and sometimes with a slightly different twist to it. It never happened and should be considered as nothing but a made up story created by an idiot to be believed by an idiot. I laugh at those that would ever think that the story would have some possible truth to it.

[Talking moose]

Originally Posted by LSLAKER

I've heard this story many times over and sometimes with a slightly different twist to it. It never happened and should be considered as nothing but a made up story created by an idiot to be believed by an idiot. I laugh at those that would ever think that the story would have some possible truth to it.

Stranger things have happened.....

[HalfBreed]

Originally Posted by W921

I'm thinking everyone is dead now so it doesn't matter but just in case it does then the following is fictional.
Years ago police worked alone. When they first came out with women police one of them was over powered in a routine traffic stop on the highway. The guy over powered her and handcuffed her to her steering wheel while she was standing outside the car. Then he rolled the window up tight to her arms and pulled her pants down so that road traffic would see her.
This guy did this only because he didn't like the idea of women police.
The woman police officers only sin was she was just to nice of a human being to pull her gun and shoot this piece of crap over what she thought was nothing but a traffic stop.
There never was a trial. That would have been just more public humiliation for her.
This piece of garbage was dealt with by her fellow officers later on.
I have no problem with the police taking care of bad guys
Police need judgement. They need to use the laws with discretion for the good of the community and they need to be part of that community.

That's the best pantsing story I ever did hear in Alberta. I first heard this as a member of 2 CDO doing it to an OPP chicky outside Pembroke.

[58thecat]

Nine pages over a non compliant punk.....

[Pathfinder76]

Agreed. WHO CARES?

[pitw]

Originally Posted by chuck

Agreed. WHO CARES?

You clicked on it,so I'll guess you.

[MrDave]

Funny stuff here. Very seldom do I get the urge to comment on stuff here , but this thread simply shows who never hung out with Hutterites. I've gotten drunk with those boys before lunch during harvest. The thought that tractors should get to avoid check stops is hilarious. I remember when the preachers son had to be taken home to mama mid afternoon because he fell off the weather with it in gear. Religion doesn't stop people from being criminals or drunken idiots.

[urban rednek]

In regards to avoiding Checkstops and refusing a breathalyzer test: will this decision apply to everyone on their way to work? Or only farmers driving agricultural equipment?
This could be game changer.

https://calgarysun.com/news/local-ne...ctor-checkstop

The Alberta Crown has withdrawn charges against two young farmersfollowing a run-in with sheriffs at a checkstop where their tractor was towed away.

Jeremia Leussink, 19, was taking the tractor from one field to another on July 31 when he was stopped by provincial sheriffs at a highway checkstop near Didsbury, north of Calgary.
Family members have said that, frustrated by a long line of cars, he drove into a ditch to get into the other field, prompting sheriffs to pull him out of the tractor and demand he take a breathalyzer.

His 21-year-old brother, Dominic Leussink, showed up and got involved in the dispute.

Jeremia Leussink was charged with several offences, including resisting arrest and failing to take a breathalyzer. Dominic Leussink was charged with obstructing a police officer and causing a disturbance.

“Their charges were withdrawn,” Calgary lawyer Tonii Roulston said Thursday in an interview with The Canadian Press.
“I think after the Crown did a proper assessment of the case with the respect to a reasonable likelihood of conviction and, not to speak for him, but how perhaps the interaction with police was handled.”

She said the two brothers are relieved.

“They’d never been involved in the justice system, so they were very overwhelmed initially.”

Family members, on a GoFundMe page set up to help pay legal costs, said the younger Leussink brother was busy farming while being home-schooled and doesn’t drink alcohol.

Roulston said she’s still dissatisfied with what happened to her clients and alleges Jeremia Leussink was “roughed up” by sheriffs when they pulled him out of the tractor.

“It ought to have been assessed initially with respect to when you have a lineup of cars on the highway that are there for a checkstop and your focus becomes this farmer, who actually is just going down the road to get to another field,” she said.

“I don’t think it worked really well at the beginning. Eventually, we had a Crown prosecutor who was experienced who finally made the right decision.”

Roulston said there are still some other legal matters to be dealt with.

Because Jeremia Leussink was charged with failing to take a breathalyzer, his learner’s licence was automatically suspended, said Roulston.

“Once someone gets any sort of impaired-driving charge, he’s now is under suspension for 15 months, even though the criminal charges are withdrawn.”

She said she is likely to appeal the licence suspension. Another law firm will be in civil court trying to recoup costs for a $300 impound charge for the tractor, as well as for damages to the $300,000 machine when it was towed,she said.

This report by The Canadian Press was first published Sept. 24, 2020.

[tool]

Absolutely ridiculous, there is no good reason those boys shouldn’t stand trial.
Comply with the police and none of this would have happened.

So now what happens with their $70,000+ Go Fund Me?

[Talking moose]

Well!!!! Now maybe the popo will think twice about disrupting and roughing up hard working farmers trying to work the fields!!!!! Didn’t even make it to court!!!!!
Now!!! Let’s get some retribution for lost time and equipment from the tax payers!!!
Your laws have spoken!!!!!
Wow.

[nick0danger]

Originally Posted by tool

Absolutely ridiculous, there is no good reason those boys shouldn’t stand trial.
Comply with the police and none of this would have happened.

So now what happens with their $70,000+ Go Fund Me?

I do not really think they gave that young man a chance, they were way to quick to pull him out of the tractor. He was not going anywhere take some time to talk to the kid, I am sure he would of blown if they had just took a deep breath and explained the situation.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by tool

Absolutely ridiculous, there is no good reason those boys shouldn’t stand trial.
Comply with the police and none of this would have happened.

So now what happens with their $70,000+ Go Fund Me?

The issue is not whether they should have stood trial, it's whether the prosecutor thought he could get a conviction.

[tool]

1. Bypassed StopCheck
2. Refused to blow
3. Resisted arrest
4. Sold a BS story to the media, show me the hayfield they were going to at the point of arrest, after 9 at night in their emergency to do critical “farm work” without any implement of any kind???

All kinds of reasons for trial here I’d say

[AndrewM]

Originally Posted by tool

1. Bypassed StopCheck
2. Refused to blow
3. Resisted arrest
4. Sold a BS story to the media, show me the hayfield they were going to at the point of arrest, after 9 at night in their emergency to do critical “farm work” without any implement of any kind???

All kinds of reasons for trial here I’d say

But somehow he wasn't given a chance...

[Ken07AOVette]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

Well!!!! Now maybe the popo will think twice about disrupting and roughing up hard working farmers trying to work the fields!!!!! Didn’t even make it to court!!!!!
Now!!! Let’s get some retribution for lost time and equipment from the tax payers!!!
Your laws have spoken!!!!!
Wow.

By that logic every single arrest that never made it to trial should have the same outcome because of a Liberal Judge?

And if you are ever robbed or assaulted, will you scream blue bloody murder and will want blood for your loss?

Remember how precedent's are set when you look back on your remarks.

[liar]

Seems to be a pattern here . If your registration is expired and you get checked all you have to do is act like a idiot and have someone video the cops arresting you and charges will get thrown out . If you come upon a checkstop and dont want to stop just go around and defy the leo . Have someone video it as they arrest you and charges will get dropped .

Am i the only one who is concerned about this ?

[Talking moose]

Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette

By that logic every single arrest that never made it to trial should have the same outcome because of a Liberal Judge?

And if you are ever robbed or assaulted, will you scream blue bloody murder and will want blood for your loss?

Remember how precedent's are set when you look back on your remarks.

Too sarcastic? Figured the “wow” at the end would be enough. Or the glee of taxpayers funding it....guess not...lol

[AB2506]

If the Sheriffs actions were justified, the charges should not have been dropped. Period.

[AndrewM]

Originally Posted by AB2506

If the Sheriffs actions were justified, the charges should not have been dropped. Period.

Charges are dropped all the time. Doesn't mean the person was innocent.