This is called a Leader

[Etownguy]

Trump is a lunatic, and I don't say that lightly.

[260 Rem]

Will Trump reveal the real story ... Roswell, Bigfoot, Who killed JFK?

[sjr]

Originally Posted by Etownguy

Trump is a lunatic, and I don't say that lightly.

If you say Trump is a " lunatic" what the ***** does make our dear Pony Head Justin ?

[HunterDave]

Originally Posted by play.soccer

Knew that would happen. Soon canada will be a security threat to the states.

X2 Trump is obviously serious about homeland security, and what does Justin go and do? Well, he goes on social media proclaiming that Canada's doors are wide open for anyone who wants to come here! When is he going to learn to keep his mouth shut......idiot!

I predict that there will be restrictions for Canadians traveling to, or through, the US........a visa or something else.

[Unregistered user]

Originally Posted by jtiwana

I might not agree a 100% with him, but this is what is called a leader.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG-boxVJq_s

Way to go Mr Trump, wish we had strong willed leaders in Canada

We had one but the majority of Canadians voted for the current embarrassment.

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by Redfrog

Are you part of the masses?

The m is silent.....

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by HunterDave

X2 Trump is obviously serious about homeland security, and what does Justin go and do? Well, he goes on social media proclaiming that Canada's doors are wide open for anyone who wants to come here! When is he going to learn to keep his mouth shut......idiot!

I predict that there will be restrictions for Canadians traveling to, or through, the US........a visa or something else.

Yup open the doors and watch the crime rate etc explode...how many of the so called refuges already entered into Canada have legit jobs...or are there hands opened to be filled with freebies...

[Fur]

Originally Posted by HunterDave

X2 Trump is obviously serious about homeland security, and what does Justin go and do? Well, he goes on social media proclaiming that Canada's doors are wide open for anyone who wants to come here! When is he going to learn to keep his mouth shut......idiot!

I predict that there will be restrictions for Canadians traveling to, or through, the US........a visa or something else.

Only a matter of time. USA already views us as spineless.

[heybert]

Yes Trump, please build a wall along the 49th parallel. We don't want your problems coming up north. We already have our own problems being perpetuated by our own government.

[spazzy]

Unfortunately the way the economy works you can't have everybody winning with out causing huge inflation . Wich brings you back to square one . The system needs poverty in order to work , sad but true .

[huntsfurfish]

Originally Posted by jtiwana

I might not agree a 100% with him, but this is what is called a leader.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG-boxVJq_s

Way to go Mr Trump, wish we had strong willed leaders in Canada

Thats not a leader!

This is a leader http://www.cabelas.ca/product/14224/...n-wire-leaders

[stringer]

More winning.
Saudi king agrees to support , finance safe zones in Syria and Yemen.



https://theconservativetreehouse.com...ria-and-yemen/

[Etownguy]

Originally Posted by sjr

If you say Trump is a " lunatic" what the ***** does make our dear Pony Head Justin ?

Disliking one leader does not equal approval of another.

[IceDemeter]

Originally Posted by stringer

More winning.
Saudi king agrees to support , finance safe zones in Syria and Yemen.



https://theconservativetreehouse.com...ria-and-yemen/

I am curious as to just who this is a "win" for?

Saudi Arabia is a dictatorship / monarchy which controls their population under the strictest sharia law. Those who don't subscribe to the most extremist Islam beliefs are subject to the death penalty. Many of the refugees are trying to escape the extremism and live in accordance to the more modern and "liberal" sects of Islam (you know - believing things like women are actual people and not less than goats, and that folks who don't follow the extremist sects of Islam shouldn't be killed for their beliefs).

So, this "agreement" essentially is letting Saudi Arabia finance the forced expansion of the most extremist Islamic sects and sharia law - the fertile spawning ground for the Islam-associated terrorist groups. The refugees in the "safe areas" will be forced to follow sharia law, and those with more modern beliefs will be killed or silenced - and left to foment even greater hatred for the world who abandoned them to this.

This "agreement" also seems at this point to be missing the approval of the governments and people of Yemen and Syria - and has the potential of allowing a Saudi expansion in to other countries with Western backing. This must be a good idea, right? There aren't any nearby examples where Western meddling to create new national boundaries has caused even more violence...

I personally think that there might be a few holes in the theory that this is a "win", and that it is a "good" step in the direction of lessening the threat of terrorism...

It sounds great to let people stay close to their original homes, and to not subject them to the culture shock of trying to assimilate in to areas with different languages and customs and religions. It is without a doubt a less expensive option, and there will be many refugees that will welcome the option. I just hope that the implementation of this agreement includes the option for refugees who don't wish to remain in a religious totalitarian state to continue to apply for immigration to other countries and it doesn't just become an unofficial prison.

Oh - and my political leanings are right wing and I strongly support the screening of refugees and immigrants to not allow in those who follow extremist religious sects of any kind, as history shows them to be the least likely to make a positive contribution to our society (and the most likely to be a danger). Religious beliefs are a conscious personal choice (not an accident of birth such as sex or skin colour or race), and so should be taken in to consideration as an indication of potential behaviour from an individual. Individual responsibility and choices need to be considered in the options of assistance given to any refugee or possible immigrant.

[Bemoredog]

Originally Posted by Etownguy

Disliking one leader does not equal approval of another.

Yea, so much this. So many people frame this debate as either or, my team vs your team. There's no middle ground. It's polarized and discussion never really leads to anything constructive. Things are complicated, but people are lazy, so they create false dichotomies to gloss over the complexity. Makes it easier to create good guys and bad guys, and support a black and white view of the world.

[Bemoredog]

Originally Posted by IceDemeter

I am curious as to just who this is a "win" for?

Saudi Arabia is a dictatorship / monarchy which controls their population under the strictest sharia law. Those who don't subscribe to the most extremist Islam beliefs are subject to the death penalty. Many of the refugees are trying to escape the extremism and live in accordance to the more modern and "liberal" sects of Islam (you know - believing things like women are actual people and not less than goats, and that folks who don't follow the extremist sects of Islam shouldn't be killed for their beliefs).

[...]

Oh - and my political leanings are right wing and I strongly support the screening of refugees and immigrants to not allow in those who follow extremist religious sects of any kind, as history shows them to be the least likely to make a positive contribution to our society (and the most likely to be a danger). Religious beliefs are a conscious personal choice (not an accident of birth such as sex or skin colour or race), and so should be taken in to consideration as an indication of potential behaviour from an individual. Individual responsibility and choices need to be considered in the options of assistance given to any refugee or possible immigrant.

This is a great post. Regardless of political persuasion, it actually shows some critical thought and reflection on the topic and the possible unintended consequences. I wish more folks could take the time to do this instead of just being fanboys for their political "team".

[stringer]

Originally Posted by IceDemeter

I am curious as to just who this is a "win" for?

Saudi Arabia is a dictatorship / monarchy which controls their population under the strictest sharia law. Those who don't subscribe to the most extremist Islam beliefs are subject to the death penalty. Many of the refugees are trying to escape the extremism and live in accordance to the more modern and "liberal" sects of Islam (you know - believing things like women are actual people and not less than goats, and that folks who don't follow the extremist sects of Islam shouldn't be killed for their beliefs).

So, this "agreement" essentially is letting Saudi Arabia finance the forced expansion of the most extremist Islamic sects and sharia law - the fertile spawning ground for the Islam-associated terrorist groups. The refugees in the "safe areas" will be forced to follow sharia law, and those with more modern beliefs will be killed or silenced - and left to foment even greater hatred for the world who abandoned them to this.

This "agreement" also seems at this point to be missing the approval of the governments and people of Yemen and Syria - and has the potential of allowing a Saudi expansion in to other countries with Western backing. This must be a good idea, right? There aren't any nearby examples where Western meddling to create new national boundaries has caused even more violence...

I personally think that there might be a few holes in the theory that this is a "win", and that it is a "good" step in the direction of lessening the threat of terrorism...

It sounds great to let people stay close to their original homes, and to not subject them to the culture shock of trying to assimilate in to areas with different languages and customs and religions. It is without a doubt a less expensive option, and there will be many refugees that will welcome the option. I just hope that the implementation of this agreement includes the option for refugees who don't wish to remain in a religious totalitarian state to continue to apply for immigration to other countries and it doesn't just become an unofficial prison.

Oh - and my political leanings are right wing and I strongly support the screening of refugees and immigrants to not allow in those who follow extremist religious sects of any kind, as history shows them to be the least likely to make a positive contribution to our society (and the most likely to be a danger). Religious beliefs are a conscious personal choice (not an accident of birth such as sex or skin colour or race), and so should be taken in to consideration as an indication of potential behaviour from an individual. Individual responsibility and choices need to be considered in the options of assistance given to any refugee or possible immigrant.

It's a win for the refuges as they will have a safe zone in which to escape the war zone.
And a win for the nations that were taking then in , as it will ease the burden on the taxpayers that are ultimately left to pay the bill.