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Old 01-28-2017, 09:22 AM
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As an Alberta PC member, I've been thinking about this a lot lately. Simple question, one very right-winged party or keep a center-right and right-winged parties?
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Old 01-28-2017, 09:34 AM
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Smile I thought that this was decided?

All I can say if you don't unite some how or other you will have a left wing government for maybe 2 generations, and by then the right wing supporters will have died off. Just like Social Credit.
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Old 01-28-2017, 09:47 AM
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Yes unite the right.
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Old 01-28-2017, 09:49 AM
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Whatever it takes to defeat the socialist regime, before they totally destroy our province.
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Old 01-28-2017, 09:51 AM
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Yes the right needs to unite in Alberta.That being said it must be done in an open and transparent way.Get rid of the people behind the scenes pulling the strings within the PC party and also purge any remaining red tories.That sandra jansen floor crossing to the NDP is a perfect example.The WR must also purge the extreme idiots who make "lake of fire" comments etc.

Last election in every riding the NDP won the PC/WR split the vote almost exactly in half.

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Old 01-28-2017, 10:12 AM
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Old 01-28-2017, 10:14 AM
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I think the chance of another NDP government after the mess they made is pretty unlikely though. Will reducing voters options by combining two dysfunctional parties into one also reduce voter trust in that party? I don't know.
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Old 01-28-2017, 10:17 AM
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Yes the right needs to unite in Alberta.That being said it must be done in an open and transparent way.Get rid of the people behind the scenes pulling the strings within the PC party and also purge any remaining red tories.That sandra jansen floor crossing to the NDP is a perfect example.The WR must also purge the extreme idiots who make "lake of fire" comments etc.



Last election in every riding the NDP won the PC/WR split the vote almost exactly in half.



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You are right, a lot of the ridings where the NDP won had pretty even votes for the PC/WR parties.
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Old 01-28-2017, 10:50 AM
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Old 01-28-2017, 11:19 AM
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I'm split on uniting.

I think the PC party has a lot of housecleaning to be a palatable choice, even if united with WR. With floor crossings and talk of uniting so shortly after a big defeat, I think there is a lot of trust issues.

I'm still pretty cross about Danielle Smith. She must kick herself every day. I believe had she not crossed, that WR would have had their chance.

Overall I trust Brian Jean and the WR party much more than the PC that screwed it up so bad these last few years. And I would have concerns that it wouldn't end up being more of the same old, despite Brian's best intentions.
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Old 01-28-2017, 11:25 AM
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I'm split on uniting.

I think the PC party has a lot of housecleaning to be a palatable choice, even if united with WR. With floor crossings and talk of uniting so shortly after a big defeat, I think there is a lot of trust issues.

I'm still pretty cross about Danielle Smith. She must kick herself every day. I believe had she not crossed, that WR would have had their chance.

Overall I trust Brian Jean and the WR party much more than the PC that screwed it up so bad these last few years. And I would have concerns that it wouldn't end up being more of the same old, despite Brian's best intentions.
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Old 01-28-2017, 11:55 AM
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Anything at this point to end the liberal progressive communists in disguise global agenda.

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Old 01-28-2017, 11:56 AM
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After what ive seen from Klein to Smith to Wall to Trump,
I am offically non-partisan, and my vote goes to the best leader of the bunch.
I can care less what party line as all party lines seem to be corrupt in one way or another.
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Old 01-28-2017, 12:11 PM
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The old hard right from both parties will unite. Power struggles, nutjobs and infighting from within will keep a lid on their delusions of grandeur and make them unattractive to a lot of voters.

The big block of old supporters from the centre will be looking for a new place to go.

Four or more parties again clamoring for voters with more lies, BS and promises.
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Old 01-28-2017, 12:14 PM
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I often wonder if Brian Jean hasn't done enough to clean up the WR image in the last bit to attract a few of the voters that only went PC due to the uncertainty of the WR party (more specifically the religious zealots that made some outlandish comments that seem to have been controlled or routed).

Now remove the protest votes from the NDP and ask if a merge is really required.

I would rather a minority right with a likely right opposition than a right majority with infighting destroying everything.

I guess the gamble is on whether the province could possibly re-elect the NDP.
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Old 01-28-2017, 12:34 PM
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I think that whatever the two opposition parties decide to do every concerned Albertan has to purge from his/her mind any idea that the NDP are so hated that there is no way the NDP could get elected again.

My problem is that the PC and WR keep sending me emails and to me it just sounds like blah blah blah! Gimme money money money! I don't trust either and I do not think their merge would be any better. I'll probably pinch my nose and vote.
When it comes down to it I will vote for the party that makes me gag the least.
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Old 01-28-2017, 12:50 PM
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its going to take a strong party with a strong leader to take control of our province . unfortunately , i think that there may still be enough resentment towards the failed pc party that uniting the two may drive away votes for the wrp .
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Old 01-28-2017, 01:01 PM
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Unfortunately, I think if there are still two parties come election time, the NDP will get back in on the split vote. Splinter parties are of no help to anyone, except the NDP.
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Old 01-28-2017, 01:02 PM
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Unite or die!


A major house cleaning would have to take place as well
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I don't know what the answer is at this point.

I don't like any of the candidates and i cannot stand any of these divisive parties.

My concern is the puppet government currently in place, their agenda and Justin's out in the open fanboy obsession and outright admiration of truly oppressive control freak communist regimes.
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Old 01-28-2017, 02:02 PM
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I don't like any of the candidates and i cannot stand any of these divisive parties.
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Old 01-28-2017, 02:13 PM
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This shouldn't be a question. We need to do whatever it takes to get rid of the socialists.
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Old 01-28-2017, 02:20 PM
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Old 01-28-2017, 02:24 PM
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I am a Wildrose member and also I joined the PCs, so I can have a say in the joining of both parties. If they don't join up, the NDP will get in again as sure as the Pope is Catholic.

No offence intended to the Pope or Catholics.
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The Pc's need to unite with their Liberal party brethren. That way the people of Alberta will no longer be fooled and thus vote for the word conservative. There is only one conservative party in Alberta and it sure isn't the Pc party.
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The Pc's need to unite with their Liberal party brethren. That way the people of Alberta will no longer be fooled and thus vote for the word conservative. There is only one conservative party in Alberta and it sure isn't the Pc party.
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Old 01-28-2017, 05:31 PM
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No, by adjusting a few policies the WRP could very easily win the next election by luring away voters from the PC party. Let the PC party rot. Gold doesn't shine when you mix it with a turd.
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Old 01-28-2017, 06:58 PM
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The Pc's need to unite with their Liberal party brethren. That way the people of Alberta will no longer be fooled and thus vote for the word conservative. There is only one conservative party in Alberta and it sure isn't the Pc party.
This is good. I would rather see this than a WR/PC merger.
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Old 01-28-2017, 07:07 PM
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I am a Wildrose member and also I joined the PCs, so I can have a say in the joining of both parties. If they don't join up, the NDP will get in again as sure as the Pope is Catholic.

No offence intended to the Pope or Catholics.

I think the last poll I saw put the NDP in third place just slightly behind the PC's...both around 27% and the WR were somewhere around 32% I think. So no guarantee they will get in. In fact I'd say they are in deep trouble even without a unite the right deal.

Having said that, I can see the temptation to erase ALL doubt. I'm still wrestling with it myself.
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Old 01-28-2017, 07:15 PM
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I think the chance of another NDP government after the mess they made is pretty unlikely though. Will reducing voters options by combining two dysfunctional parties into one also reduce voter trust in that party? I don't know.
The chance of an NDP government the last election was also pretty unlikely, they never would have won if it wasn't for the Cons/Wildrose splitting the vote. The NDP absolutely will get elected again if the right do not unite. I do not understand why these two right parties cannot figure this out, makes me think they are even stupider than the NDP if they can't see that.. Why does it always have to be that with politics they have to scour the country end to end to find the most unsuitable and stupidest people possible to run a campaign.
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