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Loaded gun on a vehicle
Ok,, I know we’ve been through this before.
Having a loaded gun on a vehicle or shooting from one for target practice...
Legal or not? Where is the law that states this. I’ve looked at the hunting regulations and it spells it out specifically but... on a different forum I’m being told that it “only applies to hunting situations” not target shooting.
Does anyone know if there is a difference between hunting or target shooting?
Where in the firearms act does it spell it out?
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06-22-2019, 06:52 PM
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No difference, both illegal.
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06-22-2019, 06:52 PM
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The Wildlife Act applies whether you are hunting or not. That is also why you can only discharge a firearm at night , at an approved range.
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06-22-2019, 07:24 PM
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06-22-2019, 07:27 PM
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Revised Statutes of Alberta 2000 Chapter W-10 Current as of December 17, 2014
The wording in the Alberta Wildlife Act clearly states it is not legal to have a loaded firearm on or in a vehicle :
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Use of vehicles, boats and aircraft
33(1) A person shall not
(a) hunt wildlife from or with an aircraft,
(b) use a vehicle, aircraft or boat with intent to harass, injure
or kill wildlife,
(c) discharge a weapon from a vehicle, aircraft or boat, other
than a boat that is propelled by muscular power or
anchored, or
(d) have a loaded firearm on or in a vehicle, aircraft or boat,
other than a boat so propelled or anchored.
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06-22-2019, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
The Wildlife Act applies whether you are hunting or not. That is also why you can only discharge a firearm at night , at an approved range.
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Livestock protection
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06-22-2019, 08:00 PM
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Livestock protection
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Protection of livestock would be legal if authorized by F&W, the same way a disabled person can be authorized by F&W to shoot off of a motor vehicle.
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06-22-2019, 08:08 PM
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Yes but where does it say that the wildlife act applies to target shooting?
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06-22-2019, 08:14 PM
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Yes but where does it say that the wildlife act applies to target shooting?
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Where does it state that the Wildlife Act only applies while hunting? And there is no exemption listed for target shooting, so it applies while target shooting.
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Yes but where does it say that the wildlife act applies to target shooting?
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It doesn't, but it doesn't have to. Government Acts are applicable for all actions. There isn't a Hunting Act, Taget Shooting Act, Plinking Act, Shooting Into the Air Celebrating Act, Training Act, etc.
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06-22-2019, 08:26 PM
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Yes but where does it say that the wildlife act applies to target shooting?
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Ok, go test your theory. Let us know how it plays out! 
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06-22-2019, 08:34 PM
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Ok, go test your theory. Let us know how it plays out! |
Guess you didn’t read my first post huh?
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There are a lot of gophers getting murdered by criminals. Just sayin....
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06-22-2019, 09:32 PM
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There are a lot of gophers getting murdered by criminals. Just sayin....
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A lot of things happen that aren't legal, but the fact that they happen, doesn't make them legal.
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06-22-2019, 09:37 PM
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The activity of “discharging or having a loaded firearm in or on a motor vehicle”
Is the prescribed activity...regardless of whether you are hunting or target shooting or transporting a firearm.
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06-22-2019, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
A lot of things happen that aren't legal, but the fact that they happen, doesn't make them legal.
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I agree. It was an observation, not an indictment or an excuse.
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06-22-2019, 10:38 PM
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I think that dedicated "sport shooters", who don't hunt, would be hard pressed to ever know about a "shooting law" that only exists in the Provincial Hunting Regulations. Why would they ever look there to find out if it's legal to shoot at paper/steel targets from the bed of their truck ?
Just sayin...
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06-22-2019, 11:08 PM
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is there another source?
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Originally Posted by FishOutOfWater
I think that dedicated "sport shooters", who don't hunt, would be hard pressed to ever know about a "shooting law" that only exists in the Provincial Hunting Regulations. Why would they ever look there to find out if it's legal to shoot at paper/steel targets from the bed of their truck ?
Just sayin...
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Good point. So, where would a dedicated sport shooter, who doesn't hunt, find and verify the Provincial laws in regards to firearms use within the province?
Just askin...
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Originally Posted by urban rednek
Good point. So, where would a dedicated sport shooter, who doesn't hunt, find and verify the Provincial laws in regards to firearms use within the province?
Just askin...
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Well, in the old days people called the local station and asked or in today's age we use the Google.
Ignorance of the law is not an excuse they often accept in court so like all things where there is some inherent danger we need to be adults and look into it.
That said, if it isn't bothering anybody its unlikely anyone will come and look.
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06-23-2019, 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by FishOutOfWater
I think that dedicated "sport shooters", who don't hunt, would be hard pressed to ever know about a "shooting law" that only exists in the Provincial Hunting Regulations. Why would they ever look there to find out if it's legal to shoot at paper/steel targets from the bed of their truck ?
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That’s my point, even thought I understand it to be illegal, I can’t find the statute that says that it is.
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Makes you kind of wonder, how many hunters have a loaded firearm on quads when out hunting ? Illegal.
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06-23-2019, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by urban rednek
Good point. So, where would a dedicated sport shooter, who doesn't hunt, find and verify the Provincial laws in regards to firearms use within the province?
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The Firearms Act... Supposed to cover all Provinces.
https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/f-11.6/
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06-23-2019, 06:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FishOutOfWater
I think that dedicated "sport shooters", who don't hunt, would be hard pressed to ever know about a "shooting law" that only exists in the Provincial Hunting Regulations. Why would they ever look there to find out if it's legal to shoot at paper/steel targets from the bed of their truck ?
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So without a " Sport Shooting Act" how do you know that you you can't legally go out and target shoot on private property without permission? How do you know that it's illegal to have a few beer while you are shooting ? How do you know that you can't legally leave your garbage behind after you are done shooting? It is your responsibility to know the laws, regardless of which Act they are located in.
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
So without a " Sport Shooting Act" how do you know that you you can't legally go out and target shoot on private property without permission? How do you know that it's illegal to have a few beer while you are shooting ? How do you know that you can't legally leave your garbage behind after you are done shooting? It is your responsibility to know the laws, regardless of which Act they are located in.
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yup . just like work or anything else in life .
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06-23-2019, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
A lot of things happen that aren't legal, but the fact that they happen, doesn't make them legal.
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I’d go out on a limb here and say everyone on this forum has done something illegal at one point!
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06-23-2019, 07:51 AM
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To me, considering how hazardous it is, why not just haul your butt out of the vehicle? Target practice...I can’t think of a more inaccurate way to ‘target’ practice...IMHO.
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06-23-2019, 07:51 AM
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Just a guess, but if F & W caught someone shooting using truck as rest the person could use " I was just target shooting" as a "Get out of Jail Card"
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06-23-2019, 08:12 AM
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Option 2.
Shoot out of pup tent in the off season...
Kool in the summer months as it acts as a sun shade,,, put electric Heater in it it the wither to get comfy for the cold weather shots...
Simple easy and fast..
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Or dress up warm and dry to enjoy the day in the great outdoors,,, life is fun when we come up with game plans to enjoy living life full bore.
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I’d go out on a limb here and say everyone on this forum has done something illegal at one point!
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that's what happens when you have bad laws written by people with no common sense who are anal control freaks
in other words bureaucrats and politicians
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06-23-2019, 08:50 AM
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Whoops,,, I forgot to add the camper on legs idea,,, Ha...
Let's not go down that road...
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