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Old 04-18-2018, 10:59 AM
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This is insane.... the guy beats TWO murder and weapons charges due to the (provincial) court's ineptitude...ugh


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Old 04-18-2018, 11:09 AM
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Ineptitude or corruption?
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Old 04-18-2018, 11:24 AM
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Don’t give them too much credit. It’s pure ineptitude. This happened cause the problem was ignored for years and years and when it was finally put to the test in the Supreme Court we had no plan to rectify the problem. Expect a few more years of this.

Also the problem isn’t just here. It’s happening nationwide.
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Old 04-18-2018, 11:44 AM
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I expect that the other cases taking up the courts time were more important, bicycle thefts and shoplifters and such. I'm sure they were tried by the courts then sternly apologized to before receiving their lovely parting gift baskets.

A cop buddy posted an article about this on FB and another CPS member chimed in with the warning to other officers that Chan is either always carrying a firearm or has one within easy reach, plus that Chan always complains to PSS after every encounter with the police. I'm imagining this is some abbreviation for 'professional standards section' or such?

This failure of the courts is beyond egregious. Its so bad I'm almost left to wonder if it was purposeful to allow further investigation. A set up of sorts? I could see the police doing something like that, but the courts would be sure to screw things up beyond all recognition.
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Old 04-18-2018, 11:47 AM
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Read R vs Jordan and this will make sense. Maybe not from a justice standpoint but from a legal standpoint anyways.
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Old 04-18-2018, 12:01 PM
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Read R vs Jordan and this will make sense. Maybe not from a justice standpoint but from a legal standpoint anyways.

That may be the reason for the law, but its no excuse that the court delays screwed things up to get to this point. Surely if a case had to get kicked they could have prioritized the one for a multiple murderer organized crime figure over cases for lesser crimes because lets face it, most other crimes are lesser crimes by comparison. This is 100% on the courts.
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That may be the reason for the law, but its no excuse that the court delays screwed things up to get to this point. Surely if a case had to get kicked they could have prioritized the one for a multiple murderer organized crime figure over cases for lesser crimes because lets face it, most other crimes are lesser crimes by comparison. This is 100% on the courts.


The court system is the most inefficient wasteful system I’ve ever encountered. The Jordan ruling came out in 2016 and as I mentioned above it’ll be years before any of this is corrected to a reasonable degree.
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Old 04-18-2018, 12:14 PM
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Don’t kid yourself we have a LEGAL SYSTEM. Not a Justice system. JUSTICE never even enters the picture.
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Old 04-18-2018, 12:18 PM
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Please, everyone....

The REAL injustice here is that hairstyle, and attempt at a mustache

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Old 04-18-2018, 12:21 PM
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When I am real annoyed I get an eye twitch that drives me crazy.
I'm not going to be able to drive today after reading that garbage.
Hopefully the next time he 'gives them a reason.
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Old 04-18-2018, 12:26 PM
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The Feds and provincial govt's are too busy saving the whales to waste time on appointing enough judges to deal with the overload and gee where would the funds come from for new judges, I mean just think of the environment and foreign countries trying to survive with funds directed elsewhere.
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Old 04-18-2018, 01:03 PM
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This is the result of a government with entrenched bureaucracy and no performance standards. The legal system on the Crown's side can do the poorest job and there are no consequences to them. They like it that way because if they are held to a performance standard and accountable, they might have to work for a living. I see no changes coming, the system has to change from within and what's in it for the ones already in place?
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Old 04-18-2018, 01:32 PM
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No doubt we need more courts and judges to indulge our entitlements. We reject funding through tax increases. Our health care costs surge because we want to use ER’s to deal colds and hangnails. We tie up court time because we “want our day in court” over speeding tickets, impaired ..... sound familiar to anyone?
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Old 04-18-2018, 01:45 PM
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So, this is liable to be the poster child for the libs to push C75 with. It is a great example of the problems they say they are trying to cure. But, 200,000,000 to re-program ISIS repatriates and refugees, 100,000,000 to gun control measures, 35,000,000 for a study group that studied itself. They could definitely have hired a few more judges.
Except it decreases penalties on goat humpers and child traffickers and that ilk.
True Liberal logic, supported by the marxist lovers in the NDP as well.
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Old 04-18-2018, 02:18 PM
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One of Calgary's most notorious gangsters, set scott free. nice.
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Old 04-18-2018, 02:33 PM
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Stupid thing is it’s the same people filling up the courts all the time, they get brought forward slapped out on the wrist get let back out go out commit crime, get caught go back to court, slap on the wrist and the merry go round continues.
I’ve had cop friends tell me that usually when property crime goes down it happens to be the rotation of when certain guys are in jail for a few months, they get released and lo and behold another crime wave. We need escalating sentencing with no time wasted on constant appeals.
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Old 04-18-2018, 02:49 PM
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It shouldn't be long before he is a "Victim"on a violent act!
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Ineptitude or corruption?
I'm expecting his days on the planet are numbered, the Canadian version of capital punishment.

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Old 04-18-2018, 03:26 PM
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He seems nice.

Do the courts not prioritize cases?

Seems this one should be a high priority

Or is this the courts way of making a point?

I would hate to think a dangerous murderer (allegedly) was let go to make some kind of statement of overworked/underfunded or something like that
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Old 04-18-2018, 03:34 PM
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Oh he won’t be a gangster anymore after he gets his govt payout.
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Old 04-18-2018, 04:57 PM
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Old 04-18-2018, 05:22 PM
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Star Chamber.
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Old 04-18-2018, 05:40 PM
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So what if you’re a rural property owner and this guy shows up, tries to fire up your ATV, looks into your shop and then knocks on your door? What do you do? It’s a rhetorical question, so before anyone gets bent out of shape thinking I’m suggesting to shoot the guy, I’m simply highlighting the dilemma of today’s law abiding citizens. Who is “The Law” truly protecting these days?
Methinks our forefathers would be turning in their graves.
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I half wonder if this was on purpose to let him further incriminate himself or others. Its difficult to imagine he won't be under surveillance. If he is under surveillance, hopefully the police might apprehend Chan's rival gang members just shortly after they've rendered him permanently retired.
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I half wonder if this was on purpose to let him further incriminate himself or others. Its difficult to imagine he won't be under surveillance. If he is under surveillance, hopefully the police might apprehend Chan's rival gang members just shortly after they've rendered him permanently retired.
Actually its A strategy use often they get release back to the wild ... best case scenario, they take care of themself or their enemy’s and the police can close the file before the next court date .
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Crown is appealing. Hopefully a higher court will see fit to over turn a lower court judgement. Once / if he gets his day in court, hopefully the evidence will lead to a conviction. With recent judgements, if convicted of two murders, he may get 50 years before parole eligibilty.

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Crown is appealing. Hopefully a higher court will see fit to over turn a lower court judgement. Once / if he gets his day in court, hopefully the evidence will lead to a conviction. With recent judgements, if convicted of two murders, he may get 50 years before parole eligibilty.

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Next week he'll have a meeting with trutard. The pm likes meeting with these types that are hard done by.
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So disgusting. Rights for the defendant, but what about the victim's rights? Just a stupid legal system/legislation quagmire!
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Maybe prime minister selfie will give him 10 million for pain and suffering


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