Accubond vs TTSX

[Ridger]

Interested in developing a load for Tikka T3 30.06 and going through the bullet options.

Think I've narrowed it down to an Accubond or TTSX.

I know the differences in structure from the two, and would likely go with a 165 in Accubond, and either 168 or even 150 in TTSX to grab the extra speed.

Anyone have preference of one or another in that caliber?

Thanks

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[sns2]

Originally Posted by Ridger

Interested in developing a load for Tikka T3 30.06 and going through the bullet options.

Think I've narrowed it down to an Accubond or TTSX.

I know the differences in structure from the two, and would likely go with a 165 in Accubond, and either 168 or even 150 in TTSX to grab the extra speed.

Anyone have preference of one or another in that caliber?

Thanks

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With ttsx you need to go light for caliber to maintain as high velocity as possible. They are equally capable bullets. Anyone telling you there is much difference in on game performance is hearing voices. Serious.

[Full Curl Earl]

So, if a guy doesn’t like the perfomance of solid Bullets he’s hearing voices? Lol I’m hearing one now i guess, And its telling me that mono bullets leave smaller exit wounds, resulting in less blood hitting the ground. UOTE=sns2;4237053]With ttsx you need to go light for caliber to maintain as high velocity as possible. They are equally capable bullets. Anyone telling you there is much difference in on game performance is hearing voices. Serious.[/QUOTE]

[catnthehat]

I would really like to try Accubonds in my favorite rifle but unfortunately for md they do not make them , so of the two choices I use the TSX
Come to think of it , these days therefore only a few bullets made for my favorite cartridge that I feel are outstanding !
Cat

[sns2]

Originally Posted by Full Curl Earl

So, if a guy doesn’t like the perfomance of solid Bullets he’s hearing voices? Lol I’m hearing one now i guess, And its telling me that mono bullets leave smaller exit wounds, resulting in less blood hitting the ground. UOTE=sns2;4237053]With ttsx you need to go light for caliber to maintain as high velocity as possible. They are equally capable bullets. Anyone telling you there is much difference in on game performance is hearing voices. Serious.

[/QUOTE]Its ok. There's help for hearing voices.

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[Full Curl Earl]

Its ok. There's help for hearing voices.

Thank goodness for that! Lol
We all experience bad shot placement if you hunt long enough. My experience in tracking marginal hits with mono bulletts versus a Ballistic tip/accubond/Ballistic Silver tip etc has been that we eventually find the poorly hit Balistic tip styled animal, but not the solid Bullet. Muliple small wound channels vs the single (mostly) wound of a solid bullet. Of course exit wounds are not a promise or typical of Ballistic tip bullets either, but it often resembles a hand grenade tossed into the chest cavity. My good friend and hunting partner uses TSX, and most of my long tracking jobs have come from this, lol.
But lots of people have different opinions. If your new to hunting, the grenade scenario offers a little margin for your errors as a human being.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by Full Curl Earl

Its ok. There's help for hearing voices.

Thank goodness for that! Lol
We all experience bad shot placement if you hunt long enough. My experience in tracking marginal hits with mono bulletts versus a Ballistic tip/accubond/Ballistic Silver tip etc has been that we eventually find the poorly hit Balistic tip styled animal, but not the solid Bullet. Muliple small wound channels vs the single (mostly) wound of a solid bullet. Of course exit wounds are not a promise or typical of Ballistic tip bullets either, but it often resembles a hand grenade tossed into the chest cavity. My good friend and hunting partner uses TSX, and most of my long tracking jobs have come from this, lol.
But lots of people have different opinions. If your new to hunting, the grenade scenario offers a little margin for your errors as a human being.

And I have had to track animals where a Ballistic Tip blew up on a shoulder, and didn't penetrate to the vitals, whereas a monimetal bullet would have. Each bullet type has it's limitations.

[sns2]

Originally Posted by Full Curl Earl

Its ok. There's help for hearing voices.

Thank goodness for that! Lol
We all experience bad shot placement if you hunt long enough. My experience in tracking marginal hits with mono bulletts versus a Ballistic tip/accubond/Ballistic Silver tip etc has been that we eventually find the poorly hit Balistic tip styled animal, but not the solid Bullet. Muliple small wound channels vs the single (mostly) wound of a solid bullet. Of course exit wounds are not a promise or typical of Ballistic tip bullets either, but it often resembles a hand grenade tossed into the chest cavity. My good friend and hunting partner uses TSX, and most of my long tracking jobs have come from this, lol.
But lots of people have different opinions. If your new to hunting, the grenade scenario offers a little margin for your errors as a human being.

I have admittedly never had to track an animal shot with either Barnes or an Accubond. Poor shot is a poor shot regardless of bullet has always been my opinion. I am still a big fan of cup and core bullets for deer, but about 8 years ago, a young fella I hunt with smoked a bull elk at less than 100 with his 30-06 and 165 Interlocks. It was a good shot, but he did go a ways before he expired. We found the animal eventually, with what was left of the bullet against the hide, but there was no snow for tracking, and no blood trail. After that, I made the decision to do everything I could to get guys in my hunting party to use either a bonded or monometal so as to provide consistent pass throughs, in the hopes of a blood trail. Both bullets are fantastic and I have nary a poor word to say about either. I'd always go with whichever one shot the best. If they were equal, and the rifle spits em out the muzzle at 3000 fps, my preference would be for the TTSX (slightly).

[timsesink]

It seems the TTSXs shoot better over a wider array of guns. That being said both are incredible bullets.

[Sundog57]

Haven't tried Accubonds as I figured if you could go lead free, why not.
150 TTSXs give me 100m five shot groups with all holes touching or very nearly so out of my rifle.
Hard to argue with that
PS also kill deer quite effectively

[Ray Ray]

Accubonds will expand with lower velocity than the TTSX . I will use the TTSX in the 7mm but do not in the .308 . in case I need to reach out a bit.

[270person]

I consider Accubonds much like the old lady speaking for Frank's Hot Sauce. I put that **** in everything. 140's in 270. 160s in my 7mms, 225's in my 35.

Wouldn't swap for anything else.

[Stinky Coyote]

I’m big accubond fan also, for anything launching 2800 fps and up. For slower launches I like eld-m/ballistic tip/a-max or the like. Need less jacket and delayed expansion when you’re a slow poke. Probably be all about the Barnes if I ran a 3300+ fps laser.

[7magtime]

Originally Posted by 270person

I consider Accubonds much like the old lady speaking for Frank's Hot Sauce. I put that **** in everything. 140's in 270. 160s in my 7mms, 225's in my 35.

Wouldn't swap for anything else.

Lol yup! 140's in .270 Win and 160's in 7mm Rem Mag have been tough to beat, never have felt the need to use anything else since I started using them not long after they came out. Penetration at longer ranges is impressive too..

[Alta_Redneck]

I’ve personally had a ttsx fail to open. It was a 100gr bullet fired from my 257 wby mag. Impact velocity would have been in the 3400fps range. It was a broadside shot on a whitetail buck. Entry was behind the front shoulder and I found the bullet in the far side shoulder. I know other people have great luck with them but I sure didn’t. The buck required tracking for about an hour with very little blood. I was lucky and we had fresh snow. I shoot accubonds in every other rifle I own and have never had a failure, so I’ll stick with them. It could very well have been a one-off experience but that was enough for me.

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[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by Alta_Redneck

I’ve personally had a ttsx fail to open. It was a 100gr bullet fired from my 257 wby mag. Impact velocity would have been in the 3400fps range. It was a broadside shot on a whitetail buck. Entry was behind the front shoulder and I found the bullet in the far side shoulder. I know other people have great luck with them but I sure didn’t. The buck required tracking for about an hour with very little blood. I was lucky and we had fresh snow. I shoot accubonds in every other rifle I own and have never had a failure, so I’ll stick with them. It could very well have been a one-off experience but that was enough for me.

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There is no perfect bullet made, and EVERY bullet type has had failures, the Partition included .
I came close to losing a deer last year because something went wrong with a famous brand and style of bullet, something that should never have happened, and I out it down to a once in a lifetime thing.
That one bad experience will not stop me from using them in any cartridge I use them in.
Cat

[Jerry D]

I chose accubonds because they are much more affordable while still maintaining performance

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[Ariu]

I was in the same position 2 years ago. 165AB vs 15gn TTSX for my savage 30-06.
The TTSX were very accurate in three different powders i tried (4350, W760, R17). I choose to go with RL17 which was giving 3000+fps and sold the AB's without testing them.
I killed two deer (bang-flop shots) and a moose. The moose required a follow shot but this was my mistake.

[Dick284]

With the Barnes offerings you can reduce bullet weight up to 25% and get similar performance as a lead core bullet.
So with that in mind, look at a 130grain TSX or TTSX, vs. a 165Gr. Accubond.

Speed is king with the Barnes bullets, if your impact velocities get lower than 2000 FPS expect poor expansion.

Being it’s a 30/06 And your impact velocities will never exceed much over 2800 FPS, you’re better off with a lead core bullet anyways.

[Nyksta]

Both have great penetration and weight retention on impacts. slightly better BC's for reducing wind drift with the lead bullet. Depends if that matters to you or not.

[Dean2]

I shoot 130 and 150 TSX out of my 308. Kills just great out to 500 yards so far. The 130s leave at 3150, so far, judging by the wound channels, no issues with not opening up, 98% weight retention at any distance, good penetration, have only ever recovered one bullet and it was a 150 TSX that went front to back side on a moose at 300 yards. Perfect 4 petal expansion. The 150s are doing 3000, so out of an aught six you should be able to get another 100 FPS or more easily. The TTSX actually open up easier and have a little better B.C.


I also use 270 grain TSX in the 375, they kill great. Have never used the Accubonds on game but they were very accurate. If I was using Nosler for hunting I would go Partitions.

[mindoutside]

I chose the accubonds, but mainly because it shoots better out of my rifle. I started hand loading them and they shot even better.

I shoot a Remington 30+06 as well (not that yours will necessarily shoot better with accubonds) and they knocked down to cow elk at 250 and 300 yards so I am sold.

Probably, that if the ttsx shoots well in your rifle it would have similar result. But I would mind the speed thing like others have said.

[gunluvr]

Originally Posted by Dick284

With the Barnes offerings you can reduce bullet weight up to 25% and get similar performance as a lead core bullet.
So with that in mind, look at a 130grain TSX or TTSX, vs. a 165Gr. Accubond.

Speed is king with the Barnes bullets, if your impact velocities get lower than 2000 FPS expect poor expansion.

Being it’s a 30/06 And your impact velocities will never exceed much over 2800 FPS, you’re better off with a lead core bullet anyways.

This^^^^^
Remember that monometal bullets are longer than lead core bullets of the same weight. If you seat tsx or ttsx bullets to the same COAL as lead core, you will reduce case capacity and may need to reduce powder charge accordingly. A monometal bullet generally punches over it's weight class so going 10 to 25 grains lighter won't affect terminal performance but will enhance velocity and trajectory.
Likewise a lighter ttsx will be shorter too.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by Jerry D

I chose accubonds because they are much more affordable while still maintaining performance

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Oddly enough, the Accubonds were more expensive when I compared prices this morning.

[huntingfamily]

You can't go wrong with either bullet. My top 2 choices and the decision is made on whichever one is most accurate in that particular rifle.

[lone wolf]

Originally Posted by huntingfamily

You can't go wrong with either bullet. My top 2 choices and the decision is made on whichever one is most accurate in that particular rifle.

x2 ...... whichever one the rifle prefers gets the nod, although in all honesty I am often splitting hairs.

[Dean2]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Oddly enough, the Accubonds were more expensive when I compared prices this morning.

They were when I bought them a few years ago too. Ballistic tips were pretty cheap but not the accubonds or partitions. Still the best deal on practice bullets are Hornady interlock or interbond and they kill good too. 30 bucks a hundred rather than 60 for 50 like Barnes, so about a quarter the price. .

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by Dean2

They were when I bought them a few years ago too. Ballistic tips were pretty cheap but not the accubonds or partitions. Still the best deal on practice bullets are Hornady interlock or interbond and they kill good too. 30 bucks a hundred rather than 60 for 50 like Barnes, so about a quarter the price. .

I haven't bought Accubonds in a few years, I was surprised to see them over $60/50.

[Redneck 7]

I have a series loaded for my 06 with 150 gr Accubonds, haven’t shot it yet or have any other data on it. That’s the route I’m going, I have never loaded with Barnes bullets before.

Maybe I’ll get out on my next day off for a range day and chime in later.

[sns2]

Originally Posted by Jerry D

I chose accubonds because they are much more affordable while still maintaining performance

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Um nope. Not anymore. Both equally expensive.