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NATO benefits the US
NATO has only ever been activated once, activated in the sense that all members were compelled by mandate, to protect a member ........... that member was the United States.
NATO receives funding based on the ratified appropriations (who pays how much) which they all vote under resolution ........ everyone has, in fact, meet their obligation except one nation until 2019 .......... do you want to guess who shorted the piggy bank and reneged on their portion? Only the US
If Trump wants out of NATO .......... that truly demonstrates his utter lack of understanding of what NATO is and isn't ....... we will see what benefits US interests abroad in bases and outposts look like after that without the benefit of having free airspace, a reciprocal support agreement (support and protection of US commercial vessels at or near NATO waters), etc...
How about the sale of US weapons/equipment/technology to NATO countries (as they harmonize weapons, navigation systems, communication, etc) - does he know most of the contracts bring money into the US economy more than pays for it's tuition into this club?
Hey maybe he thinks after the US leaves, NATO will keep buying and paying a non NATO country to build these secret systems with a non NATO member ....... is that what he thinks?
Strange - I bet he has no clue. Unbvbl.I am crestfallen with how little of the picture (outside the crayola crayon part) this guy understands about how things "really" work in the world.
Even IF the "almighty USA's Protection" (which serves as a deterrent to aggression) leaving causes a foreign power like Russia, to, for example, invade Turkey and subsequently move into that region and control oil .......... guess who that hurts the most ....... the US ........ so how can it be possible this guy is so stupid as to not even think about what he's spouting on about? He truly is a masterpiece of a thinker. I can't believe so many people are supporting him while he continues to prove how over his head he is.
This hurts the US as much as it hurts the rest of us in NATO. The POTUS doesn't understand it, it's too complicated for him, over his head. Trump just knows it's costing him nickles out of his piggy bank and that the only reason they want him is because he is the toughest kid on the block protecting all the rest of the weak little countries.
US needs NATO as much as they need him , maybe more.
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Ego and moron.
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Issue of Pravda? huh?
I am not talking about magazines like Pravda or maybe the REBEL, I am talking about real life, not conspiracy rags.
Either way .......... and for your benefit ...........
Sept 12th, One day after the infamous 9/11 - the evocation and mobilization, by mandate, of all member nations, to defend ........... the United States. All member nations sent troops on the ground to Afghanistan.
It has never been evoked prior to that, or since then, for anyone.
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You are correct in that it was the only time NATO invoked Collective Defence-Article 5. Thanks to fishnguy for the link to the Edgar Buckley story, which clarified the key words necessary to dig into NATO's archives:
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On the evening of 12 September 2001, less than 24 hours after the attacks, the Allies invoked the principle of Article 5. Then NATO Secretary General Lord Robertson subsequently informed the Secretary-General of the United Nations of the Alliance's decision.
The North Atlantic Council – NATO’s principal political decision-making body – agreed that if it determined that the attack was directed from abroad against the United States, it would be regarded as an action covered by Article 5. On 2 October, once the Council had been briefed on the results of investigations into the 9/11 attacks, it determined that they were regarded as an action covered by Article 5.
By invoking Article 5, NATO members showed their solidarity toward the United States and condemned, in the strongest possible way, the terrorist attacks against the United States.
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After 9/11, there were consultations among the Allies and collective action was decided by the Council. The United States could also carry out independent actions, consistent with its rights and obligations under the United Nations Charter.
On 4 October, once it had been determined that the attacks came from abroad, NATO agreed on a package of eight measures to support the United States. On the request of the United States, it launched its first ever anti-terror operation – Eagle Assist – from mid-October 2001 to mid-May 2002. It consisted in seven NATO AWACS radar aircraft that helped patrol the skies over the United States; in total 830 crew members from 13 NATO countries flew over 360 sorties. This was the first time that NATO military assets were deployed in support of an Article 5 operation.
On 26 October, the Alliance launched its second counter-terrorism operation in response to the attacks on the United States, Active Endeavour. Elements of NATO's Standing Naval Forces were sent to patrol the Eastern Mediterranean and monitor shipping to detect and deter terrorist activity, including illegal trafficking. In March 2004, the operation was expanded to include the entire Mediterranean.
The eight measures to support the United States, as agreed by NATO were:
to enhance intelligence-sharing and cooperation, both bilaterally and in appropriate NATO bodies, relating to the threats posed by terrorism and the actions to be taken against it;
to provide, individually or collectively, as appropriate and according to their capabilities, assistance to Allies and other countries which are or may be subject to increased terrorist threats as a result of their support for the campaign against terrorism;
to take necessary measures to provide increased security for facilities of the United States and other Allies on their territory;
to backfill selected Allied assets in NATO’s area of responsibility that are required to directly support operations against terrorism;
to provide blanket overflight clearances for the United States and other Allies’ aircraft, in accordance with the necessary air traffic arrangements and national procedures, for military flights related to operations against terrorism;
to provide access for the United States and other Allies to ports and airfields on the territory of NATO member countries for operations against terrorism, including for refuelling, in accordance with national procedures;
that the Alliance is ready to deploy elements of its Standing Naval Forces to the Eastern Mediterranean in order to provide a NATO presence and demonstrate resolve;
that the Alliance is similarly ready to deploy elements of its NATO Airborne Early Warning Force to support operations against terrorism.
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Link here: https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_110496.htm
While some NATO members (predominantly UK & Canada) provided troops and logistical support to the initial U.S. ground war against the Taliban and AQ in Afghanistan. Most NATO countries were not actively involved in military actions on the ground until until the Afghan authorities requested the assistance of the UN mandated ISAF in 2003.
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Established under the request of the Afghan authorities and a UN mandate in 2001, the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) was led by NATO from August 2003 to December 2014.
Its mission was to develop new Afghan security forces and enable Afghan authorities to provide effective security across the country in order to create an environment conducive to the functioning of democratic institutions and the establishment of the rule of law, with the aim to prevent Afghanistan from once again becoming a safe haven for terrorists.
ISAF also contributed to reconstruction and development in Afghanistan. This was done primarily through multinational Provincial Reconstruction Teams (PRTs) – led by individual ISAF troop-contributing countries – securing areas in which reconstruction work could be conducted by national and international actors. PRTs also helped the Afghan authorities progressively strengthen the institutions required to fully establish good governance and the rule of law, as well as to promote human rights. The principal role of the PRTs in this respect was to build capacity, support the growth of governance structures and promote an environment in which governance can improve.
ISAF was one of the largest international crisis management operations ever, bringing together contributions from up to 51 different countries. By end 2014, the process of transitioning full security responsibility from ISAF troops to the Afghan army and police forces was completed and the ISAF mission came to a close. On 1 January 2015, a new NATO-led, non-combat mission, Resolute Support, to train, advise and assist the Afghan security forces and institutions was launched.
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Operation Active Endeavour (OAE) was initiated in the immediate aftermath of the 9/11 terrorist attacks to deter, defend, disrupt and protect against terrorist activity in the Mediterranean. It helped to secure one of the busiest trade routes in the world and was among eight initiatives launched by the Alliance in 2001, in solidarity with the United States. It was an Article 5 operation, i.e., a collective defence operation that, initially only involved NATO member countries until it started accepting non-NATO countries’ participation in 2004.
OAE hailed merchant vessels and boarded suspect ships, intervened to rescue civilians on stricken oil rigs and sinking ships and, generally, helped to improve perceptions of security. NATO ships also systematically carried out preparatory route surveys in “choke” points, as well as in important passages and harbours throughout the Mediterranean.
2010 was a turning point for OAE, when it shifted from a platform-based to a network-based operation, using a combination of on-call units and surge operations instead of deployed forces. In addition to tracking and controlling suspect vessels, it helped to build a picture of maritime activity in the Mediterranean by conducting routine information approaches to various vessels.
Active Endeavour was succeeded by Operation Sea Guardian in November 2016.
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While there was a lot of support provided by NATO members in the fight against terrorism, much of it was based on common security goals against a mutual foe.
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Don’t care who you are or if I agree or disagree with you. It’s pretty simple to pay proper respect for an individual and the office they hold. For example if I ever met the Pope the Queen, the Prime Minister or the President I would refer to them properly due to the office they hold.
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Don’t really care what the two of four have done my point was the position demands a level of respect. The individual not so much depending on who but the position yes.
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Originally Posted by EZM
NATO benefits the US
NATO has only ever been activated once, activated in the sense that all members were compelled by mandate, to protect a member ........... that member was the United States.
NATO receives funding based on the ratified appropriations (who pays how much) which they all vote under resolution ........ everyone has, in fact, meet their obligation except one nation until 2019 .......... do you want to guess who shorted the piggy bank and reneged on their portion? Only the US
If Trump wants out of NATO .......... that truly demonstrates his utter lack of understanding of what NATO is and isn't ....... we will see what benefits US interests abroad in bases and outposts look like after that without the benefit of having free airspace, a reciprocal support agreement (support and protection of US commercial vessels at or near NATO waters), etc...
How about the sale of US weapons/equipment/technology to NATO countries (as they harmonize weapons, navigation systems, communication, etc) - does he know most of the contracts bring money into the US economy more than pays for it's tuition into this club?
Hey maybe he thinks after the US leaves, NATO will keep buying and paying a non NATO country to build these secret systems with a non NATO member ....... is that what he thinks?
Strange - I bet he has no clue. Unbvbl.I am crestfallen with how little of the picture (outside the crayola crayon part) this guy understands about how things "really" work in the world.
Even IF the "almighty USA's Protection" (which serves as a deterrent to aggression) leaving causes a foreign power like Russia, to, for example, invade Turkey and subsequently move into that region and control oil .......... guess who that hurts the most ....... the US ........ so how can it be possible this guy is so stupid as to not even think about what he's spouting on about? He truly is a masterpiece of a thinker. I can't believe so many people are supporting him while he continues to prove how over his head he is.
This hurts the US as much as it hurts the rest of us in NATO. The POTUS doesn't understand it, it's too complicated for him, over his head. Trump just knows it's costing him nickles out of his piggy bank and that the only reason they want him is because he is the toughest kid on the block protecting all the rest of the weak little countries.
US needs NATO as much as they need him , maybe more.
There is so much more to NATO.
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... They did not want a repeat of WWII, where the U.S. sat out the first half because they did not want to be involved.
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https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_51977.htm
"The March 2003 campaign against Iraq was conducted by a coalition of forces from different countries, some of which were NATO member countries and some were not. NATO as an organization had no role in the decision to undertake the campaign or to conduct it."
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Originally Posted by EZM
NATO benefits the US
NATO has only ever been activated once, activated in the sense that all members were compelled by mandate, to protect a member ........... that member was the United States.
NATO receives funding based on the ratified appropriations (who pays how much) which they all vote under resolution ........ everyone has, in fact, meet their obligation except one nation until 2019 .......... do you want to guess who shorted the piggy bank and reneged on their portion? Only the US
If Trump wants out of NATO .......... that truly demonstrates his utter lack of understanding of what NATO is and isn't ....... we will see what benefits US interests abroad in bases and outposts look like after that without the benefit of having free airspace, a reciprocal support agreement (support and protection of US commercial vessels at or near NATO waters), etc...
How about the sale of US weapons/equipment/technology to NATO countries (as they harmonize weapons, navigation systems, communication, etc) - does he know most of the contracts bring money into the US economy more than pays for it's tuition into this club?
Hey maybe he thinks after the US leaves, NATO will keep buying and paying a non NATO country to build these secret systems with a non NATO member ....... is that what he thinks?
Strange - I bet he has no clue. Unbvbl.I am crestfallen with how little of the picture (outside the crayola crayon part) this guy understands about how things "really" work in the world.
Even IF the "almighty USA's Protection" (which serves as a deterrent to aggression) leaving causes a foreign power like Russia, to, for example, invade Turkey and subsequently move into that region and control oil .......... guess who that hurts the most ....... the US ........ so how can it be possible this guy is so stupid as to not even think about what he's spouting on about? He truly is a masterpiece of a thinker. I can't believe so many people are supporting him while he continues to prove how over his head he is.
This hurts the US as much as it hurts the rest of us in NATO. The POTUS doesn't understand it, it's too complicated for him, over his head. Trump just knows it's costing him nickles out of his piggy bank and that the only reason they want him is because he is the toughest kid on the block protecting all the rest of the weak little countries.
US needs NATO as much as they need him , maybe more.
There is so much more to NATO.
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I think the US has less to benefit from the alliance than the other way around. Just try to imagine this world, 12 month from now, without the US’ s contribution to NATO, the UN, or any other global organization.
I wouldn’t really want to leave close to the powder keg this planet would turn into.
But let’s not forget that we’re being hearded by the village’s fool, and no matter what other’s do, we should all be ashamed we’ve allowed that to happen.
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Hopefully, the Conservatives dump Scheer or we may a replay of the last election.
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https://globalnews.ca/video/4008848/...ng-old-version
He later stayed seated in the house while they played the butchered version as a statement of disapproval. Actions speak louder than words and its not often you see a politician actually back his words up with them.
Old news but still, I can't see anyone else they are putting up that would have the testicular fortitude to do that. Especially in todays snowflake callout culture.
Unfortunately with the direction the opinionated media is going, they will demonize anyone that doesn't virtue signal enough to satisfy your average millennial and snowflake with so-called social "issues". They will demonize them to the point that the sheeple that actually believe the news (noose) is fact and make it extremely hard for any candidate that doesn't tow this SJW line.
How they are ripping the NHL apart right now is just an example we can all see in plain sight here today. Before long you won't have a single volunteer coach for minor hockey, they will need to get bags and put everyone's cell phone in there when they enter the dressing room and make it a private only area just like some comedy clubs are doing now.
Wouldn't it be epic if they NHL players were to stage a player strike for Don or Bill.. and put an end to this BS in the sport before it even starts. Sadly we wont see it.
League is trying to increase profit and they are jumping on this social justice warrior trend with the social media crowd to do it the same way Trudeau virtue signals on every point related to the above.
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https://globalnews.ca/video/4008848/...ng-old-version
Old news but still, I can't see anyone else they are putting up that would have the testicular fortitude to do that. Especially in todays snowflake callout culture.
Unfortunately with the direction the opinionated media is going, they will demonize anyone that doesn't virtue signal enough to satisfy your average millennial and snowflake with so-called social "issues". They will demonize them to the point that the sheeple that actually believe the news (noose) is fact and make it extremely hard for any candidate that doesn't tow this SJW line.
How they are ripping the NHL apart right now is just an example we can all see in plain sight here today. Before long you won't have a single volunteer coach for minor hockey, they will need to get bags and put everyone's cell phone in there when they enter the dressing room and make it a private only area just like some comedy clubs are doing now.
Wouldn't it be epic if they NHL players were to stage a player strike for Don or Bill.. and put an end to this BS in the sport before it even starts. Sadly we wont see it. League is trying to increase profit and they are jumping on this social justice warrior trend with the social media crowd to do it.
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A very big role in the perception that nobody on this side would be capable of defeating the globalist direction we are on, is being played by the media, you are absolutely right. The second most powerful force in a state, indeed. The alternative sources of information have been under attack and, for the most part defeated, not long after it has been realized that they can be a ‘fight back’ platform.
I’m afraid the point we’ve gotten to demands serious involvement on the citizens’ part before it’s too late.
I’ve lived it before, in the old country, when it took 4 days to find out that Chernobyl happen, us being in the pass of the cloud. Same in ‘89 when the rest of the country found out about the massacre in our city. Short wave radio was the internet of those times, media being complicit in the power’s game. Blatantly lying or lying by omission is just as dangerous.
If we want a real change, we do need to stop being so complacent, quit censoring ourselves and bring our into the open. I know this community is well intended and I still have hope.
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A very big role in the perception that nobody on this side would be capable of defeating the globalist direction we are on, is being played by the media, you are absolutely right. The second most powerful force in a state, indeed. The alternative sources of information have been under attack and, for the most part defeated, not long after it has been realized that they can be a ‘fight back’ platform.
I’m afraid the point we’ve gotten to demands serious involvement on the citizens’ part before it’s too late.
I’ve lived it before, in the old country, when it took 4 days to find out that Chernobyl happen, us being in the pass of the cloud. Same in ‘89 when the rest of the country found out about the massacre in our city. Short wave radio was the internet of those times, media being complicit in the power’s game. Blatantly lying or lying by omission is just as dangerous.
If we want a real change, we do need to stop being so complacent, quit censoring ourselves and bring our into the open. I know this community is well intended and I still have hope.
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Ego and moron.
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It's of his own doing. He's used the branding of "Trump" and actually prefer to be called by that (although not directly).
I saw him mention it in an interview somewhere years and years ago. He like to be referred to as "trump" as long as it isn't said to him in person, then he prefers "Mr Trump" or "Donald" from close acquaintances. Never "Don" or "Donny" though.
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He's a buffoon. What's even more annoying is in the clip he actually talks like a normal person but whenever he's in front of the cameras he talks with that halting way of speaking, over-enunciating all his words and in that effeminate tone. The guy makes me sick.
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NATO receives funding based on the ratified appropriations (who pays how much) which they all vote under resolution ........ everyone has, in fact, meet their obligation except one nation until 2019 .......... do you want to guess who shorted the piggy bank and reneged on their portion? Only the US.
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Where did you find this info? Are you speaking of 2019 only? I agree with almost everything in your comment but as far as I am aware this is false. The US is one of the few that gives their 2% annually. Canada for example hasn’t contributed their full 2% in decades if memory serves. I’d be curious to learn otherwise.
Moments after posting I read this article. Canada currently only contributes 1.31%, targeting 1.4% by 2025 of the 2% we have committed to.
https://apple.news/A6Nsf9BTmR4ia7uPZBgRBKQ
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our prime minister and all of the ministers and other bureaucrats are simply nothing more than emissaries delivering the message from the power brokers in the Lieberal party of Canada. Trudeau was chosen by these power brokers to be leader because of his last name, nice hair, and experience as a drama teacher. he has zero credibility as a statesman to be representing anything other than Bozo the clown during a parade. his embarrassingly incompetent performances in foreign countries prove this. the duty of politicians now is not to bring the message from the citizens to the party, but instead to deliver a decree from the party down to the peasants.
one last point, interesting that for many years we had a huge problem with rural crime in the prairie provinces and nothing was done. now that Wexit has become a dominant political force, all of a sudden we have an instant increased RCMP presence here in Alberta. just a coincidence, I'm sure.
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one last point, interesting that for many years we had a huge problem with rural crime in the prairie provinces and nothing was done. now that Wexit has become a dominant political force, all of a sudden we have an instant increased RCMP presence here in Alberta. just a coincidence, I'm sure.
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Peter mckay
He is our only hope. I had hopes for Bernier but it looks like he is a wing nut. Don’t know of any other Conservative who would qualify.
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12-06-2019, 12:19 PM
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McKay I am assuming.
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12-06-2019, 01:24 PM
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McKay has had his day.
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Originally Posted by fishnguy
McKay I am assuming.
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Peter McKay quit active politics five (5) year ago. Since then he has dabbled on the sidelines, but has shown no real interest in returning, and there is no known support for him to return. After this last election, McKay openly criticised Scheer for not winning the election, but when asked by reporters Mckay said he was not interested in Scheer's job.
If the article linked below is to be believed, we are stuck with Scheer for the time being ... possibly even through to the next election.
Or will Harper come back ❓
'The Star' article 👉 https://www.thestar.com/opinion/star...heers-job.html
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12-06-2019, 03:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BEL
He is our only hope. I had hopes for Bernier but it looks like he is a wing nut. Don’t know of any other Conservative who would qualify.
Bel
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Why is he a wing-nut? Is there a specific policy that made him so? If so, which policy/policies? Or is it because he left the Libervative Party of Canada?
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